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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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Do the brushes at the car wash, where you wash your car yourself, cause swirls in your paint?
Old May 13, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Anything that touches your paint will cause a swirl/scratch.
the brushes at the DIY carwash, do you know how much mud,sand, and other garbage has been wiped off all those others before you, and not cleaned out of the brush?

It's sorta like having sex with someone for the first time when you picked them up in a bar, do you know where it has been?

Get your own detail equipment, micro fiber towels come to mind. that way you'll know where it has been.
Old May 13, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Yep I agree. But I do believe he is taking about polish swirls. Alot of times on dark colors when you have your car waxed you see swirles this is cause they use those buffers. They never really get all the residue off. Have you ever waxed your car your self and had marks you just rub out. Its the oils and residue. If it does not come out. It could be me serious like whoever buffer your clear cote. There are prodect to get rid of it. Swirl out and I'm sure there are more with diff names. ALL cars have swirls. you can on a white car get a flourecent light at night and see the swills even more than a black car on a sunny day.

Bottome line. Watch what you wash you car with. And hand wax your car. Those damn buffers are machines and we all know how much a machine gives a hoot about your paint. Exactly so do it by hand.
Old May 14, 2007 | 05:23 AM
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Rowdy -- I would never ever ever use the brush at diy car wash places unless I had no choice and my box was covered in mud. People drag them all over the ground and wash their dirty tires off with them. Do you really want to push that all over your paint?

I suggest picking up a bucket and good quality microfiber mitt and a bucket to take with you to wash. Just fill up a bucket with the hot soap and spray down your box with it before you start scrubbing it down.

As for buffers/polishers -- Random orbital polishers are great for applying wax and do not create swirls... hence the random. Most of the swirls are due to washing / drying. Griots makes a really good random orbital and they also make bonnets for taking off the wax if you really want to speed up the detail.
Old May 14, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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Yah key word speed. Those damn buffers do put swirls in. I've thrown mine in the trash because of that very fact. spent 130$ on the peice o ____e. Hand waxing is the way to go. apply away with that buffer but if you want to get all the residue off use good old fasioned elbow grease.
Old May 14, 2007 | 05:31 AM
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What damn buffer did you use? Was it a random orbital?
Old May 14, 2007 | 05:34 AM
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If you mean the kind that spins and jiggles yah. I'm not to sure what a random orbital is. I'm assuming its the same thing hens orbital= circular
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What brand? I am just curious because you obviously had issues with it if you tossed it out. I have a Griots that I got a few weeks ago and I did my hood recently polish / wax and it took out all the surface swirls. I wish I would have spent more time and did the whole car

It could have been the polish, polisher or technique involved in the polisher. Honestly you can do just as much damage polishing by hand if you are doing it wrong. The only difference I can see is that you can do that damage slower :D I will leave it at that.
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mine was used. baught it off a detailer. Maybe i just had dirty pads on it. all i know it it never worked right for me and i tossed it. that was like 2.57 years ago. couldn't tell you the brand had it about a month.
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Thats a bummer man sorry it didn't work out for yah with that. I think we can both safely say its personal preference because both can work really well if done right. Sorry for the threadjack
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i use a porter cabble 7336 sp w/ a variety of pads... no problems hwatsoever
Old May 14, 2007 | 06:01 AM
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i use a porter cabble 7336 sp w/ a variety of pads... no problems hwatsoever
Old May 14, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Thx everyone for your info.

It looks like im gonna have to take my own scrubber to the car wash.
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