TurboToyotas or Treadstone
Okay guys, i'm really thinking about buying a turbo kit in the near future. I'm not going for ZPI because of the shipping and stuff like that. But i do like their Stage 0. And no Dezod. So now i'm down to TurboToyotas and Treadstone, which should i go for? I'm looking at Turbotoyotas Stage 1 (not the Stage 1 GT) for $3349 and Treadstones turbo kit for like $3049. What you guys think?
Dezod is ok i guess, not turbonetics 'because i do not like their prices, some go for $4900 w/o a clutch + flywheel, Greddy no emanage injectors and does not actually give you the extra 100 whp, i know because where my dad went to install my brother's muffler one of the workers there said don't buy greddy because it does not actually add the 100 whp. i like the ZPI Stage 0, cheap, and gives power, but the customer service i hear is bad, and it's a 50-50 chance that i will get my product or not get it until like 6 months or somethin =\.
lol.. thats pretty funny, I have a Greddy kit. And i'm pushing 266 with 8.5psi. Id say that was over the 100 whp.. lol And Im not pushing Greddy, was just curious as to why you narrowed it down to the only two choices I wasnt too familar with when it came to companies. Greddy does give you the option to choose between two different fuel management systems.. and it concludes the 440cc injectors. Does the Tredstone or Turbotoyotas bring a clutch and flywheel?
no kit includes a cluth and flywheel you need to buy them all seperately. the greddy kit also does not include the FM, you need to buy their "fuel packages."
seriously go with the zpi. if you're worried i'll talk to kenny this weekend and give him your contact info.
seriously go with the zpi. if you're worried i'll talk to kenny this weekend and give him your contact info.
Downside with the Greddy however, no BOV... had to get a HKS and have someone weild the flange on for me. The turbine has an internal wastegate. Wouldve prefered to have an external one.. but I got a great deal on the kit. Oh and a definate must is the Dezod wireing kit for the Emanage.
Edit: Dont forget you'll need to get some gauges, boost controller, turbo timer, Oil, gauges pod... whos doing the install? Tuning... ect.. just incase you havnt figured those amounts into the cost of getting and running a turbo. Goodluck!
Edit: Dont forget you'll need to get some gauges, boost controller, turbo timer, Oil, gauges pod... whos doing the install? Tuning... ect.. just incase you havnt figured those amounts into the cost of getting and running a turbo. Goodluck!
there are lots of stories with bad shipping and they're a busy company but i highly doubt its been over a year. hell i just talked to kenny 2 weeks ago about it and its going in this weekend.
but whatever. i'll let him know you're interested.
but whatever. i'll let him know you're interested.
Originally Posted by nebster
no kit includes a cluth and flywheel you need to buy them all seperately. the greddy kit also does not include the FM, you need to buy their "fuel packages."
seriously go with the zpi. if you're worried i'll talk to kenny this weekend and give him your contact info.
seriously go with the zpi. if you're worried i'll talk to kenny this weekend and give him your contact info.
Between the two, treadstone. i've personally driven in a turbo'd tC with a treadstone kit, felt good, no problems. i cant say anything about the turbotoyota's because I have not seen it, nor read enough about it
Originally Posted by nebster
bad thing about both kits is they don't include EM or Fuel. i'd just go with the zpi stage 0 if you want to go with that route. its only 2200 right now.
Originally Posted by nebster
well i'm going to zpi friday so if you give me some contact info i can have them call you
Originally Posted by nebster
no kit includes a cluth and flywheel you need to buy them all seperately. the greddy kit also does not include the FM, you need to buy their "fuel packages."
seriously go with the zpi. if you're worried i'll talk to kenny this weekend and give him your contact info.
seriously go with the zpi. if you're worried i'll talk to kenny this weekend and give him your contact info.
Originally Posted by nebster
there are lots of stories with bad shipping and they're a busy company but i highly doubt its been over a year. hell i just talked to kenny 2 weeks ago about it and its going in this weekend.
but whatever. i'll let him know you're interested.
but whatever. i'll let him know you're interested.
Originally Posted by Crippie
Edit: Dont forget you'll need to get some gauges, boost controller, turbo timer, Oil, gauges pod... whos doing the install? Tuning... ect.. just incase you havnt figured those amounts into the cost of getting and running a turbo. Goodluck!
Be smart or you'll end up unhappy with your turbo experience!
Good luck!
well, the treadstone does not come with fuel management. The trubo toyotas does not come with fuel management or injectors. The zpi, thought it's a great deal, does not come with injectors, fuel manegment, bov, or an intercooler.
I was considering zpi, but when I added the bov, injectors and intercooler, it wasn't muchh cheaper then teh turbo toyotas. I also considered the treadstone, but I didnt' like all the cutting for the intercooler. I dont' want my IC pipes sticking out the front.
oh, and I have oredered from zpi some other stuff, and theri service is fine. bcnu702 oredered his kit and i think he got it in just a couple weeks.
i wennt with turbo toyotas because i wanted the bigger turbo, there were more options for customization, and that beautifule equal lenght manifold. i think there is more room for growth with the turbo toyotas kit. i can tell you more in a few weeks when i get the kit, but i can tell you, after talking with todd today, your more likely to get exactly what you want from turbo toyotas.
I'd say call up each company and talk to them. All the kits out now are great, and you will only know if theri kit is exacly what you want after you talkl to the builders.
good luck and happy boosting!
I was considering zpi, but when I added the bov, injectors and intercooler, it wasn't muchh cheaper then teh turbo toyotas. I also considered the treadstone, but I didnt' like all the cutting for the intercooler. I dont' want my IC pipes sticking out the front.
oh, and I have oredered from zpi some other stuff, and theri service is fine. bcnu702 oredered his kit and i think he got it in just a couple weeks.
i wennt with turbo toyotas because i wanted the bigger turbo, there were more options for customization, and that beautifule equal lenght manifold. i think there is more room for growth with the turbo toyotas kit. i can tell you more in a few weeks when i get the kit, but i can tell you, after talking with todd today, your more likely to get exactly what you want from turbo toyotas.
I'd say call up each company and talk to them. All the kits out now are great, and you will only know if theri kit is exacly what you want after you talkl to the builders.
good luck and happy boosting!
i was considering dezod first. I liked how complete their kit was, the fact that I could get a high flow cat for emissions for $45, and their costomer service. But their price per power output ratio seemed to be lower then some other kits. But that kit does have a nice power band. Oh, and they don't recomend running their kit without fuel management, hence the higher price. I dont' know about treadstone, but the zpi stage 1 and the low end turbo toyotas should be fine without fuel manegement at the delivered boost levels. Then you have the optoin of getting management later when you up the boost.
Mr. Meaty, I have to agree with you. I'm also going with TurboToyota. I'm not knocking ZPI, Dezod, or anything like that. I like the kit that turbo toyota offers. Alot of room for upgrading. Also comes with BOV and an intercooler without cutting the crash bar. So I think thats def a plus. Plus, 300hp with the turbo toyota kit isnt bad also.






