Okay, so my back bumper on my TCM xB is broke. It has some long plastic pieces that should be bolted on hanging down (it was ripped to shreds during our awful snow storms this year).

This old guy came up to me to point it out at the post office today. He says that my after market bumper is broken. I tell him it's not after market and that it is stock. He says "No it's not, the dealership put it on". I said no, this is the way it comes. He says "No, see, stock bumpers don't go that low and that it isn't stock". I said that we have two xBs and they have the exact same bumper and that they came from the dealership that way. He says "Yeah, xBs come with a lot of different options and the bumper was one of them and they put it on before I bought the car". I said no, they didn't and that it is not one of the options. He says "Yes, it is. My daughter has one and hers is stock and it doesn't look like yours. Infact, even the side skirts on your xB are after market and not stock". I said that no, the side skirts are stock, the bumpers are stock, neither are xB options and that if his daughter's are different than mine, then it's hers that are not stock". He says "No, hers are stock and don't have the definition that mine have", blah blah blah. I told him that I'm online with a HUGE Scion community, meet up with them regularly and I know for a fact that my bumpers and side skirts are bone stock, that that is the way they came, that in now way did we buy one of our xBs and pay for special bumpers and skirts, let alone both of them. He then goes on again about how they're not stock and were an option.

WTH? Screw you old guy. I hope to God he sees 20 xBs today, all having my "after market" and "lower and more defined" bumpers and side skirts. I hope he sees his daughter's xB and sees her damned bumpers and side skirts that are just like mine and feels completely IDIOTIC.

Maybe his daughter has a Civic and he was confused? :)

(and yes, I'm well aware that no normal person could confuse the two. that's exactly my point. :wink: )

I love it when people who don't drive a scion, try to teach me about my car.

Yeah.

You know, what bothers me the most is that I'm sure he figures in his head that I'm just some stupid female and not very knowledgeable about cars. Okay, so I don't know how to work on them but I'm not stupid enough to not know whether or not a part of my car is stock or not. Plus, add all the hours I've spent online here, looking and knowing about cars.

It really bothered me that we went on and on and on and he wasn't at all budging with his thoughts on my bumper and side skirts. He would correct me in a "you're clueless" manor that made me want to smack him.

Don't get me started on the post office... Those GOD D*M MOTHER F*ng machines that give you change in sacagawea dollars but won't take them as payment... :flame: Yeah... I hate the post office...

You should have punched him right in the face. How dare that old man be misinformed on your car! :rofl:

You should have punched him right in the face. How dare that old man be misinformed on your car!

I WAS informing the old man about my car. He insisted with his lies! LIES! Looking me straight in the eyes and lying!

Maybe he had Alzheimer's and forgot that his daughter drove an Element.

he may have seen a "cherry bomber edition" xB from the gulf states dealers.

Maybe she had one of the base models... :P

http://tijil.org/Toyota_bb.jpg

http://tijil.org/PSTOC_av.gif

Is that a Photoshop, Tomas?

No, that is not a photoshop.








That is a picture of the base model JDM bB. :)

Maybe his daughter lives in Japan... :P


Tom

Oh, I see. You had me worried that there actually were xBs with different bumpers and side skirts, lol.

Grr. I'm still mad. You all probably don't understand what us women sometimes have to go through with older men. Take the time my husband and I watched a documentary show where they showed about how the new anti-vibration hammers are made a few years ago when they were still new. I went to my local home and garden center, Lowes, and tried to find it for my step-father as a present. An older male employee came up to help me and I told him what I was looking for... I believe I even had remembered the specific brand I was looking for.

Well, he told me that they didn't exist. I explained what it was and how it absorbs a lot of the energy and how it's good for people who use hammers a lot and you would of thought I was telling him I spoke to aliens. He sat there with a "you're so stupid" look on his face and said again that no such product existed.

You know, the normal thing to do in that situation would of been to say "Wow, that sounds interesting. We don't have that in our store yet but maybe I'll look into it" or something. I mean, I wasn't lying to him... why act like I'm lying over a hammer documentary?

It's just like there are a good chunk of older men who refuse to be wrong when it comes to a younger woman is other person in the conversation. I mean, I told the guy at the post office that beyond knowing what I bought, that I have two of them and that I'm involved with a HUGE Scion community on the internet and in real life. The least he could of done is said "Hm, well, I could of sworn this wasn't stock, I'll have to look at my daughter's car again" or shown some sort of signs of doubt. Due to my past experiences, I held my ground pretty well. He would say it was and I'd say no. He kept trying to prove it to me... pointed to those little circular screw hole covers on my side skirts like it was proof.

Yes, it's been almost 12 hours now and I'm still upset. It's times like these that I wished I had an always on recording wire on me so I can play back to you all how absolutely shockingly stupid the conversation was. I'm sure I didn't help... I wasn't letting him have the last word.

Oh, I see. You had me worried that there actually were xBs with different bumpers and side skirts, lol.

Grr. I'm still mad. You all probably don't understand what us women sometimes have to go through with older men. Take the time my husband and I watched a documentary show where they showed about how the new anti-vibration hammers are made a few years ago when they were still new. I went to my local home and garden center, Lowes, and tried to find it for my step-father as a present. An older male employee came up to help me and I told him what I was looking for... I believe I even had remembered the specific brand I was looking for.

Well, he told me that they didn't exist. I explained what it was and how it absorbs a lot of the energy and how it's good for people who use hammers a lot and you would of thought I was telling him I spoke to aliens. He sat there with a "you're so stupid" look on his face and said again that no such product existed.

You know, the normal thing to do in that situation would of been to say "Wow, that sounds interesting. We don't have that in our store yet but maybe I'll look into it" or something. I mean, I wasn't lying to him... why act like I'm lying over a hammer documentary?

It's just like there are a good chunk of older men who refuse to be wrong when it comes to a younger woman is other person in the conversation. I mean, I told the guy at the post office that beyond knowing what I bought, that I have two of them and that I'm involved with a HUGE Scion community on the internet and in real life. The least he could of done is said "Hm, well, I could of sworn this wasn't stock, I'll have to look at my daughter's car again" or shown some sort of signs of doubt. Due to my past experiences, I held my ground pretty well. He would say it was and I'd say no. He kept trying to prove it to me... pointed to those little circular screw hole covers on my side skirts like it was proof.

Yes, it's been almost 12 hours now and I'm still upset. It's times like these that I wished I had an always on recording wire on me so I can play back to you all how absolutely shockingly stupid the conversation was. I'm sure I didn't help... I wasn't letting him have the last word.

there ARE xB's with different bumpers and side skirts. theyre available in gulf states. part of the toyota gulf states dealer network.

as part of the chrome package or the cherry bomb package.

google. it.

So chances are that his daughter had one of those cars?

Whatever. I was still right.

I did a quick search and didn't find any different bumpers or skirts. That would be a pretty significant change for a dealer.

I think Jenna's in the right here. The man must have his cars confused. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone else had a car like mine and it turned out to be an Element.

Don't let it upset you Jenna. There are some old farts out there who don't have any respect. In many cases they don't respect anyone without grey hair. Just blow it off.

i'll link you. i have no pics but when the 04-06's were still being sold they had pics of em if you put in a southern zipcode


here's a link to a site that shows the option as being available.


http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/vehicleReport/vehicle_nmb/17699/section/packages/2006/Scion/xB


YH4 Rocker Panel Covers, Chrome



CHROME ROCKER PANEL COVERS
(PPO)




YH5 Chrome Pkg, Full
Component Chrome Rocker Panel Covers
Component Chrome Door Handles
Component Chrome Window Sill Trim
Component Window Sill Trim
Component Rocker Panel Covers PIO



YJ3 Hot Hues Pkg, Cherry Bomb PIO
YJ4 Hot Hues Pkg, Plum Passion PIO



pio mean port installed option

these options were available but only to gulf states dealer networks.



and yes jenna you were still right.

Silly old men. :silly:

It's okay Jenna. I'd still be fuming too.. part because I'd know I'm right and that he's wrong.. and part just because it's so fun and feels good to be mad sometimes.

I don't know what's funnier...the fact that he thought he knew more about your car than you do, or the fact that you took the time to stand there and argue with him about it. :rofl:
I would have just smiled politely and said "whatever" as I drove away. Unless, of course, you were bored and it was fun. :silly:

First: Last word.
Second: Being right.

Sorry, I know it's off topic, and not really trying to jack this thread however, am I the only that saw the title of this thread and thought, "SeattleDave works at the post office too?"

Sorry, I know it's off topic, and not really trying to jack this thread however, am I the only that saw the title of this thread and thought, "SeattleDave works at the post office too?"

:rofl:

Sorry, I know it's off topic, and not really trying to jack this thread however, am I the only that saw the title of this thread and thought, "SeattleDave works at the post office too?"

:lalala:

LOL!!! Wouldn't it be awesome if at the same time this thread went up dave started one that said "dumb*ss girl who doesn't know cr*p about cars at the post office today!" :rofl:

It's only a matter of time before they run into eachother up there and have fight to the death.

LOL!!! Wouldn't it be awesome if at the same time this thread went up dave started one that said "dumb*ss girl who doesn't know cr*p about cars at the post office today!" :rofl:

It's only a matter of time before they run into eachother up there and have fight to the death. :rofl: That would be the funniest moment in message forum history.

Jenna, quit your whining

It's okay Jenna... my neighbor saw mine the other day and said it looked like a "gestapo car" - that's just not right.

I also really enjoy people asking me how I like having a hybrid.

Sorry, I know it's off topic, and not really trying to jack this thread however, am I the only that saw the title of this thread and thought, "SeattleDave works at the post office too?"

:rofl:


Doug, I wouldn't of had to deal with this old guy if you would of already have fixed my bumper, lol. I looked underneath... looks like I need tools, a few big washers and some sort of clippy things to keep the plastic pieces cinched back together. I got the tools... probably could buy a washer or two. Don't have the clippy things and lack tons of motivation.

I told you to come over and I would look at it! I'm not just going to show up, you have to do a little something, lol

I told you to come over and I would look at it! I'm not just going to show up, you have to do a little something, lol

Well, damnit, when can I come over? I'm free like every single day, lol.

I never found the energy drinks. I can buy some Papa Johns for us and your family or something though.

should of told that old dude to prove it with pictures!

Jenna, don't feel bad. The garbage dump I have to go to weekly is operated by a old man who always gives me mean looks. Once he asked me how I felt assisting in eliminating American jobs by buying a Toyota. I can't stand this guy.

Jenna, don't feel bad. The garbage dump I have to go to weekly is operated by a old man who always gives me mean looks. Once he asked me how I felt assisting in eliminating American jobs by buying a Toyota. I can't stand this guy.That's when I would say, "Well, when Americans learn how to build a freakin car that won't fall apart in 10 years, I'll re-think my choice."

toyota has more cars made in america than most all other automakers do

toyota has more cars made in america than most all other automakers doYeah, I know. But trying to explain that to an old man who works at the garbage dump could be...umm... interesting.

Instead of trying to prove the truth to the old man, just help him get more full of misinformation. Tell him they ARE aftermarket and they cost 5 grand, but it helps the hybrid engine burn less hydrogen. Then he'll look like the one who spoke to aliens when he relays that story to the next xB owner...

I agree with all of you. The term "American Made" has taken on a TOTALLY new meaning.

Some NASCAR fans lamented the fact that Toyota had gotten into an "American" sport like theirs. Turns out the Camry is the ONLY model that's actually made in America. How 'bout that?

wow thats retarded, i hate when people who don't know anything about ur car tells u differently, in my situation...when i first got my tc and didnt know how to take off my tailights, i asked one of my friends who was somewhat knowledgable about cars (or at least more than me) and that friend kept saying that i don't need to take off my rear bumper to remove the tailights. Eventually, when that stupid person tried taking it out, the clip broke (but it was still ok) omg what a retard.

:flame:

Some NASCAR fans lamented the fact that Toyota had gotten into an "American" sport like theirs. Turns out the Camry is the ONLY model that's actually made in America. How 'bout that?Seriously? Is that true? :rofl:

Some NASCAR fans lamented the fact that Toyota had gotten into an "American" sport like theirs. Turns out the Camry is the ONLY model that's actually made in America. How 'bout that?Seriously? Is that true? :rofl:

Well, technically, none of those race cars actually resemble the production models of the same names, but the Impalas and other "American Brands" are mostly made in Mexico or Canada.

the tundra is the only full size truck made in america as well. with 80% us parts content.

Totally true. I'm a NASCAR fan and I was estatic when Toyota came in, although they haven't done well, we all know that they will. Look at the truck series points and you'll have a very good example. As far as manufacturing goes, I'm not sure about the Impala, but the Monte Carlo is manufactured in Canada and the Ford Fusion in Mexico. Some people are just ignorant. It's the same people that call themselves fans that boo Nextel because they "like Winston better." They give us a bad rep. :tap: