Look at this pic
http://www.scion.com/pub-share/exposed/exposed_images/front_header.jpg
Do you see a bright car there? other than the Longo scion? I want a factory bright color like fire red or a yellow from the factory. How come there all dark?? is it because the ppl in Japan dont know what the sun is??? :lol: :lol: Just Kiddin
chucksu
09-23-2004, 01:49 AM
I see the RS1.0 but yeah, we need more colors that are brighter. Maybe they just go with dark colors for some reason out side of are minds grasp. :?
ltj42884
09-23-2004, 01:52 AM
i read somewhere that the color of your car is a status symbol over there...not sure if it was china or japan or if it was just asia in general...maybe somebody from over there can help me out on this one...like reds and bright colors are more expensive and so i guess if they did that they would have to raise the prices of our cheap cars...i probably have some of this info wrong but i will try to find the article that i read
djct_watt
09-23-2004, 01:53 AM
Polar White baby!!!!!!!!!!!!
chucksu
09-23-2004, 01:55 AM
i read somewhere that the color of your car is a status symbol over there...not sure if it was china or japan or if it was just asia in general...maybe somebody from over there can help me out on this one...like reds and bright colors are more expensive and so i guess if they did that they would have to raise the prices of our cheap cars...i probably have some of this info wrong but i will try to find the article that i read
Maybe. The ist in japan comes with the red color we get as a RS1.0. Also I think that picture is here in the states. We view things a little different then the japanese so give us more colors. :evil:
XBman
09-23-2004, 01:59 AM
yeah actually i thnk its just the opposite. They get all the cool color changing colors. we get the dumpy silvers and their toxic waste ( on our cars) hahah joke :roll:
djct_watt
09-23-2004, 02:11 AM
Toyota is a very smart company. . .
They use something called JIT management, and apply it to selling cars too. . . basically holding an inventory is the most expensive part of car sales (cars depreciate).
So according to their market research/analysis, they picked the most popular colors, and stock them accordingly, by anticipated demand. Red is a color that sells relatively slow here, so that's why it is only a limited release. . .
There may be some who are p'd off, but trust me, Toyota is no fool. The customers who are satisfied by the resultingly lower prices and higher stock of high demand colors are very happy the way things are.
Too bad for us! But if you get a line up of a thousand people who all want a flashy color, ready to buy, I gaurantee you some new colors will come. Just complain to Toyota/Scion corporate, and who knows
chucksu
09-23-2004, 02:26 AM
Toyota is a very smart company. . .
They use something called JIT management, and apply it to selling cars too. . . basically holding an inventory is the most expensive part of car sales (cars depreciate).
So according to their market research/analysis, they picked the most popular colors, and stock them accordingly, by anticipated demand. Red is a color that sells relatively slow here, so that's why it is only a limited release. . .
There may be some who are p'd off, but trust me, Toyota is no fool. The customers who are satisfied by the resultingly lower prices and higher stock of high demand colors are very happy the way things are.
Too bad for us! But if you get a line up of a thousand people who all want a flashy color, ready to buy, I gaurantee you some new colors will come. Just complain to Toyota/Scion corporate, and who knows
I can understand that. Now why not go with the idea of stocking so many # of each color? Red is on the ist, so I could see it getting on the xB no problem. Yes dealers do stock what colors sale. The thing to think about is how many ppl go to a dealer to get a color that is not on stock there? I would think a good amount. Looking at that picture, if I had a xB in BSP I would find it a PITA to find if I walked away from it. The more color options you get, the more your car will stand out. Aint that something about scion? To bring in the kids, we like things different so give us colors are parents would hate.
XBman
09-23-2004, 02:34 AM
yeah, and the Lava color can come on the bB. Its so simple now. I just wish that they made more colors. Cool colors not dark colors.
djct_watt
09-23-2004, 02:43 AM
I can understand that. Now why not go with the idea of stocking so many # of each color? Red is on the ist, so I could see it getting on the xB no problem. Yes dealers do stock what colors sale. The thing to think about is how many ppl go to a dealer to get a color that is not on stock there? I would think a good amount. Looking at that picture, if I had a xB in BSP I would find it a PITA to find if I walked away from it. The more color options you get, the more your car will stand out. Aint that something about scion? To bring in the kids, we like things different so give us colors are parents would hate.
Believe me, I agree with you 100%. I'm just saying that I think Toyota realizes that, but has calculated that the demand for extreme colors is much lower than the good ol' normal colors. . . and the colors we have kinda rip off expensive luxo brands, IE PGP, IIP, TCM, etc. . . they are all Benz/BMW like colors. I too want more colors, but I keep in mind that Scions are already flying off the lots. . . and Toyota is knownst among business entrepeneurs as one of the smartest companies out there, in terms of maximizing profit (maximization by taking advantage of market data(not cheapening the product(which they do not do) is good, results in higher competition, and is waht they are famous for). I have a gut feeling that they have the demand numbers right. . .
That's speaking from a business side, see I am a businessman and a car enthusiast. The car enthusiast in me says MORE COLORS, but remember the GM catastrophe. . . too many colors + too many combinations + too many models = demand totally satisfied + slower sales = lower profits
Remember that profits are the bottom line in a business, not sales.
chucksu
09-23-2004, 02:49 AM
Yeah I could see that. Then why not offer some special colors, not just on RS cars, for like $250 more? When you order this color the dealer then would tell you straight up it wont be in for 2 months or something like that, because it will come straight from the factory not the port. That would make it better IMO. They would gain more money & would not cost them anything more because the car would only be painted that color when its ordered, so no need to stock any unless a dealer wants to do that.
djct_watt
09-23-2004, 02:56 AM
Yeah, sounds like a great idea. . . I had to wait for my car, but I appreciated the ability to order exactly as I wanted from the Port. . .
Mmmmmm, custom paint jobs, with a warrantee! Now that sounds sweeeeet!!!!
X_Boxer
09-23-2004, 03:13 AM
I'd settle for -any- bright, lively color. It need not cost more nor be weird.
For instanced, the Echo is or was available in a really pretty "electric mica green" Wow, how it shimmered just right, not too much, in the full sun. A color of real beauty, life.
Compare to camo green- people who like it like it OK, but it is dark, somber, depressed compared to Electric Mica Green.
The Echo is TARGETED at a relatively conservative crowd. They get the lively green HUH?
The Scion xB is TARGETED at the youth market. They get the deadly dull depressed green. DOUBLE HUH!!!
There is no rhyme nor reason here, for the somber color choices for Xb at the current time. I'm still holding off my purchase not because the existing colors are awful- some are quite beautiful in the right light- but all can be criticized here and there as "somber dark" "copycat gray" or "boring white". No insults to any who favor those colors... its just HUH, why no electric mica green? Or if not that, even a sky bright blue. Or a gumball yellow. SOMETHING other than the next, distant limited edition release.
huh huh and more huhs. I am bemused bothered and annoyed by the mollasses slow response of Scion/Toyota to this most common of ALL scion complaints: No lively colors to buy after the run-through of the hot lava way-out orange edition
shoutforjoy
09-23-2004, 03:35 AM
I settled for a Camo Green, because of availability and a couple of other reasons. At first, I thought it was kind of dull. Then I started playing around with decal ideas.
I designed a decal that uses the dark green as the perfect background. The main element is a stripe, wich is bright gold (orangy yellow) on the outside fading to burgundy in the middle. This stripe wraps the car. It is then punctuated with burgundy ovals outlined in offwhite pinstripes with our bright gold logo in them.
I'll try to take pictures tomorrow and post them.
People love to customize these cars. So stop whining and start designing!
djct_watt
09-23-2004, 03:49 AM
Man. . . I REALLY like Camo.
JdMBboFSD
09-23-2004, 05:43 AM
:D :D
THE_DON
09-24-2004, 07:03 PM
Scions are meant to be customized... So get to work! Quit waiting for Toyota to completely trick the car out for you from the factory!
Personally, I love my xB.... BLACK on chrome! That's all I need!
Chorus-Line_A1-QMS
09-27-2004, 11:26 PM
Consider me a new supporter of your opinion.
Such a positively delicious statement and a neat boxer too.
Hiyah everyone. Newbie here.
Placebo
09-27-2004, 11:40 PM
Saw a commercial about maaco they charge $245 I believe for the full car. So if you want your car painted yellow and you have the money have at it m not sure how good they are though.
chucksu
09-28-2004, 03:43 AM
Saw a commercial about maaco they charge $245 I believe for the full car. So if you want your car painted yellow and you have the money have at it m not sure how good they are though.
I see my post didnt go through last time :?:.
From what I have heard Maaco = Crap. Also the basic paint job is just that, they only paint the out side of the car. If you open the hood or any other part that is painted body color, you will see what the factory color was.
hotbox05
09-28-2004, 07:47 AM
theres a couple pretty decent shops around here (sacramento , ca) will charge between 800 and 1600 for a pretty good job basically a cheapo factory job doorjambs and all. black is normally more money tho
Da_BoX
09-29-2004, 08:36 PM
Look at this pic
http://www.scion.com/pub-share/exposed/exposed_images/front_header.jpg
Do you see a bright car there? other than the Longo scion? I want a factory bright color like fire red or a yellow from the factory. How come there all dark?? is it because the ppl in Japan dont know what the sun is??? :lol: :lol: Just Kiddin
look at the left side, and the 3rd one in the first row. the one with thr flames, and the 2 ppl sticking out of the sun roof.
doesn't that look like the one from pimp my ride?