I am Looking for some feedback on how you like The Universal Air Suspension (U.A.S.) Air ride kits for the XB?

Is there any questions you have on the Air kits you already have on your XB?

IM am in the process of fitting the first gen kit on the 08 XBs. its pretty much up front and just some minor adj. for the rear to make it fit. Lucky yhe new XBs there a hole that you can access on the top of the rear perch in which you can use the exisiting hole to bolt the top in. I just had to fabricate a new upper mount.

Im looking for air guages now. I will do a how to install topic on installing the kit in an 08 xb..

keep me posted on the project, and email me some pics when your done I will post them up on our website with your shop name on it . Let me know if I can help with any questions you may have.

I think if you guys offered an actual kit maybe based off of Marshall's fabricated brackets etc it would sell better. Not everyone has access to the proper equipment and/or the knowledge to make the adjustments needed to fit it. If you made a true "bolt on" kit I know I would be in line to buy it!

keep me posted on the project, and email me some pics when your done I will post them up on our website with your shop name on it . Let me know if I can help with any questions you may have.

im just going front and back.. no lowrider side to side action. i need advice on what gauge i should use. i know there the round one and that rectangle one they both cost the same..

I think if you guys offered an actual kit maybe based off of Marshall's fabricated brackets etc it would sell better. Not everyone has access to the proper equipment and/or the knowledge to make the adjustments needed to fit it. If you made a true "bolt on" kit I know I would be in line to buy it!

We do offer a complete bolt on kits for the first gen xb with Koni Struts, its not as popular cause it cost $550 more. Seems 90-95% of our customers rather just modify the stock spring perch on the factory struts.

keep me posted on the project, and email me some pics when your done I will post them up on our website with your shop name on it . Let me know if I can help with any questions you may have.

im just going front and back.. no lowrider side to side action. i need advice on what gauge i should use. i know there the round one and that rectangle one they both cost the same..

If your talking about digital gauges, We have found that Dakota Digital Gauges Work the best for us and they have great Customer service. I wouldnt use any other Digital myself. You can also go with a regular round dual needle gauge for a front back system, We use the Viair 220 psi gauge, due to it handles the higher pressure and dont have the problems like the standerd 150 psi gauges do.

keep me posted on the project, and email me some pics when your done I will post them up on our website with your shop name on it . Let me know if I can help with any questions you may have.

im just going front and back.. no lowrider side to side action. i need advice on what gauge i should use. i know there the round one and that rectangle one they both cost the same..

If your talking about digital gauges, We have found that Dakota Digital Gauges Work the best for us and they have great Customer service. I wouldnt use any other Digital myself. You can also go with a regular round dual needle gauge for a front back system, We use the Viair 220 psi gauge, due to it handles the higher pressure and dont have the problems like the standerd 150 psi gauges do.

what is better

this one

https://www.universalairsuspension.com/images/digital%20gauge.jpg

or this one

https://www.universalairsuspension.com/images/dak%20gauge.JPG


and what else will need? the senders?

I think if you guys offered an actual kit maybe based off of Marshall's fabricated brackets etc it would sell better. Not everyone has access to the proper equipment and/or the knowledge to make the adjustments needed to fit it. If you made a true "bolt on" kit I know I would be in line to buy it!

We do offer a complete bolt on kits for the first gen xb with Koni Struts, its not as popular cause it cost $550 more. Seems 90-95% of our customers rather just modify the stock spring perch on the factory struts.

I guess I am the 5-10% who don't mind paying the extra for a kit that I don't have to modify anything to install. :doh:

keep me posted on the project, and email me some pics when your done I will post them up on our website with your shop name on it . Let me know if I can help with any questions you may have.

im just going front and back.. no lowrider side to side action. i need advice on what gauge i should use. i know there the round one and that rectangle one they both cost the same..

If your talking about digital gauges, We have found that Dakota Digital Gauges Work the best for us and they have great Customer service. I wouldnt use any other Digital myself. You can also go with a regular round dual needle gauge for a front back system, We use the Viair 220 psi gauge, due to it handles the higher pressure and dont have the problems like the standerd 150 psi gauges do.

what is better

this one

https://www.universalairsuspension.com/images/digital%20gauge.jpg

or this one

https://www.universalairsuspension.com/images/dak%20gauge.JPG


and what else will need? the senders?

Quality of the two are the Same, it's just a prefference on what you think would look better to match up with the dash or where your going to mount it.

you need the digital senders and fittings to adapt them in. oh yeh and some standerd wire to wire it up.

i have bags on my silveardo. ..and at first i got Dakota Digital gauges but replaced them with analog gauges from KP Components which are much better. the digital ones were inconsistent. they sent me a few replacements but i was never satisfied...look into KP Components.

got the bags in my 08 xb.. had to fabricate the front.. it worked but it raised my car 1 inch more when its all the way down.. i think i have to lower the saddle more.. I dont know if other brand of bags has this metal sleve inside of the bag to keep it from colapsing all the way down.. but if it didnt have that sleave it would slam.. i can lower the saddle one more inch before it rub the tire.. but that will only bring me to where I started with the drop springs.. I want to tuck the tires.. Also it will have no air and be all the way down so the ride going to be rough as hell..

the rear i know what i have to do.. i it tucks about 1/4 if the tire and i can get it to go lower by shaving the mounts and taking out the bump stops in the shocks and getting shorter shocks..

Any advice on what i should do..

here is the front strut set up

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0105.jpg

I installed the rectangular digital gauge in my buddy Ray's xB. Its pretty sweet. And since its electric, its easier to run wires than air line.

alright im pretty much done.. the first Bagged 2nd gen!!!



had to modifiy the crap out of the front to get it to go lower.. but Ill have to warranty the right front bag in which has a leak in it where UAS crimps it..



I can go lower if i can find pillowball mounts.. it will prob bring it down another inch.



the rear Ill just make some minor Adj to get it to go a little lower.. shorter shocks and takingout the bump stops





http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0114.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0115.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0112.jpg

looks hot man!

thanks man..

alright im pretty much done.. the first Bagged 2nd gen!!!



had to modifiy the crap out of the front to get it to go lower.. but Ill have to warranty the right front bag in which has a leak in it where UAS crimps it..



I can go lower if i can find pillowball mounts.. it will prob bring it down another inch.



the rear Ill just make some minor Adj to get it to go a little lower.. shorter shocks and takingout the bump stops





http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0114.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0115.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0112.jpg

On the 1st gen we would flip the upper factory bearing plate to the inside of the engine compartment and it would drop another 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches on most cars. Did you try that yet? if not call me and we can work on getting it lower together.

alright im pretty much done.. the first Bagged 2nd gen!!!



had to modifiy the crap out of the front to get it to go lower.. but Ill have to warranty the right front bag in which has a leak in it where UAS crimps it..



I can go lower if i can find pillowball mounts.. it will prob bring it down another inch.



the rear Ill just make some minor Adj to get it to go a little lower.. shorter shocks and takingout the bump stops





http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0114.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0115.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0112.jpg

On the 1st gen we would flip the upper factory bearing plate to the inside of the engine compartment and it would drop another 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches on most cars. Did you try that yet? if not call me and we can work on getting it lower together.

First time i heard of that.. whats your name and number..

alright im pretty much done.. the first Bagged 2nd gen!!!



had to modifiy the crap out of the front to get it to go lower.. but Ill have to warranty the right front bag in which has a leak in it where UAS crimps it..



I can go lower if i can find pillowball mounts.. it will prob bring it down another inch.



the rear Ill just make some minor Adj to get it to go a little lower.. shorter shocks and takingout the bump stops





http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0114.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0115.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0112.jpg

On the 1st gen we would flip the upper factory bearing plate to the inside of the engine compartment and it would drop another 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches on most cars. Did you try that yet? if not call me and we can work on getting it lower together.

Richard 1-800-864-2470 ext 113

Lol!! I was just going to ask if Richard still worked at Universal Air.

Dirty is my boss here in SLC. Kuz I Kan Kustomz.

How much was the kit?

After I get my 08' xB back, I so need to bag my xB. Especially with the body kit that is being put on.

Hellz yeah, with the limited amount of springs and coilovers available...bags are looking mighty fine right about now. I wouldn't be the one installing it of course but Air Suspension U.A.S. seems like a good company to look into. Too bad right now there's no kit available.

got the bags in my 08 xb.. had to fabricate the front.. it worked but it raised my car 1 inch more when its all the way down.. i think i have to lower the saddle more.. I dont know if other brand of bags has this metal sleve inside of the bag to keep it from colapsing all the way down.. but if it didnt have that sleave it would slam.. i can lower the saddle one more inch before it rub the tire.. but that will only bring me to where I started with the drop springs.. I want to tuck the tires.. Also it will have no air and be all the way down so the ride going to be rough as hell..

the rear i know what i have to do.. i it tucks about 1/4 if the tire and i can get it to go lower by shaving the mounts and taking out the bump stops in the shocks and getting shorter shocks..

Any advice on what i should do..

here is the front strut set up

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/2008%20XB%20universal%20air/CIMG0105.jpg

whats strut are you using and is that the bag from universal air that goes right on the strut? Any info would be great. the back is easy it just coils like a truck.

^ Looks like the stock struts. And they were modified with the bottom mounting plate welded on.

And Richard with UAS is awesome!


Take the stock strut apart with a spring compressor. You can borrow/rent a spring compressor for your local auto parts store
http://www.oznium.com/gallery/photos/full/4449.jpg

Then figure out how you're going to mount the strut bag over the strut:
http://www.oznium.com/gallery/photos/full/4437.jpg

youll have to cut that saddle off all the way to the weld and weld the mount to the strut.. the upper side you will have to toss the upper sring mount that goes betewwen the spring and brearinng.. THE bearing you will have to grind becuase the upper bolts that bolt to the top of the bag will rub.. when you bolt it to gether youllhave to space it up with some washers or make a shim so those bolts will just clear the breang.. that how you get the lowest possible.. IF you dont do all what i just posted the car will not sit low. Trust me I did the first one and yes UAS can claim the first Gen 2 XB..


Been in my car for over 3 months and not one porblem yet.. Just make sure you dont over tighten the fittings on teh bags becuase they will crack..

Got my kit used but New from a guy in hawaii that tried to instal it in his first gen but it didnt slam..

I wish there was some way I could route the air line out of the TOP of the strut bag instead of out the BOTTOM. The top is stationary, but the bottom moves up and down.

All the movement puts stress on the airline, and makes it a pain in the ___. I had to get some stainless steel braided lines (like the leader hoses on compressors) made up because the standard PTC fittings couldn't handle all the movement.

1) How did you deal with the air line coming out of the bag?

2) What air pressure (front & back) do you usually cruise with?

Congrats on the first bagged 08 xB. That is awesome!

I wish there was some way I could route the air line out of the TOP of the strut bag instead of out the BOTTOM. The top is stationary, but the bottom moves up and down.

All the movement puts stress on the airline, and makes it a pain in the butt. I had to get some stainless steel braided lines (like the leader hoses on compressors) made up because the standard PTC fittings couldn't handle all the movement.

1) How did you deal with the air line coming out of the bag?

2) What air pressure (front & back) do you usually cruise with?

Congrats on the first bagged 08 xB. That is awesome!

i felt ok with the airline comming out from the bottom.. it only has to flex a litto when you turn.. Air runner line comeout the same way.. I used 1/4 inch hose becuase and wrapped it with wire loom..

front i roll with about 130 to 160 but mostly at 150
Rear about 30 to 60. but mostly at 50

Only problem with running the stainless braided hose is it's kind of stiff. Hydraulic hoses can work well, but once again, stiff.

Be careful with fitting selection, too. If you run regular DOT air line to the bag, I'd run a compression fitting. NOT a press in fitting. Press ins have their place, but I'm a firm believer in the compression fittings.

Sorry, I've done a few bag installs in my day...

So is UAS working on a kit? I would like to go straight to bags when I get mine...
-nick

I just finished using universal air kit on the Infinity M45.... car drove very smooth might be looking into picking up one for the 08 xB

^^ REALLLY, Buddy?!?

I have this kit to , if you have not allready use med lockt tight on the bag bolts, the only thing I wish i had done is use only 4 valves insted of 8 the individual dumps are never used , I had to cut the front sleeve in half and a little of the rear . cut bump stops , I blew a rear shock because the shock dumped to low it leaked oil, I switch to stronger lower trd shocks. don't forget to add the air guage in the install. Good luck fun stuff.

Marshall your xB looks sick man!! I too am using Universal Air Suspension for my xB. I have to in order to get me over those driveways with the Spirits Kit that I own.

http://www.precisionmuffler.com/a1d58520.jpg
http://www.precisionmuffler.com/a1858520.jpg

I had to custom make my set-up here at PrecisionMuffler.com with some cutting and welding too. The bags are UAS, the struts are Koni's and the air valves were given to me by the Koshak Family.

The Valves were in this vehicle:

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p35/stylis20012002/allstarxB.jpg

looks awsome Gabe.. UAS is a good kit but my first preferance is Airunner in which is getting installed..

Airrunner = too slow for me - I wan't something I can play with - gangsta lean, yo!

so are the front struts of the gen1 the same as the gen2? i have a 05 baggd xb, and i have ES sleeve bgs up front, and slams in the rear, and not once have i ever had a problem with anything.

i just read another thread that people were using gen1 springs in the gen2, which makes me further thing the susension is simaler. obviously the weight between the 2 vehicles is different.