Hi there. I have some axxis XBG pads on from fronts. They are semi-metallic pads that are mid-way between the axxis deluxe plus pads and the axxis ultimate pads. After 6,000 miles, they have completely worn and need to be replaced. I have not done any unusual driving. I am easy on the brakes, no track or anything like that. They were of course brand new when I put them on myself. Any ideas what could have caused it? Could they have been defective pads or something? I compressed the calipers fully...

Anyway, my friend has the same XBG pads and his are still brand new after 7,000 miles... Looking for ideas here....

 

Could your brake pads have been partially depressed causing the wear? Check your rotors for wear for a possible clue.

 

Nope, I thought of that too. But that would've caused squealing I am sure and hurt acceleration badly. The put on new rotors at the same time as the pads. Some nice plain brembo rotors, and they still look brand new.

 

That's kinda strange. I would contact Axxis and see what they say about them. Doesn't sound normal to me.

Then again, I'm still on OEM brakes at 44k and nearly a dozen autox events....

 

I definitely would, but there is no contact information on their website. I already thought of that also. I just shocks me, how can brand new brakes wear out completely in 6,000 miles?!

 

Try the North American Contact info here:

http://www.axxisbrakes.com/wtb.htm

That seems like it's actually company info, and not really retailer kind of stuff. Maybe they can direct you?

 

Cool, I must have missed that, I sent him an e-mail now. We will see what comes of it. I just can't imagine it being anything other than defective pads, but even there, what could possibly be so defective that they'd wear that quickly...

 

This is what they responded.


I explained that they were genuine pads bought from one of their authorized retailers and what not. It sounds like he is trying to justify the 6K mile pad change interval. I don't know. Looks like a dead end here. I don't get it....

 

Dude he's just trying to low ball you, make noise until you get new pads.

 

This sounds like an install or hardware issue with the braking assembly itself.

 

I'm confident that the install was good. What kind of hardware issue can it be with the assembly? I'd like to investigate...

 

Caliper sticking issue, severely warped rotors etc...Those would be a good place to start.

 

I considered those options as well, but the rotors are just as old as the pads (6K miles) and are quality pieces. They are brembo plain vented rotors and they appear to be in mint condition after investigation. I also thought of the caliper issue as well, but I figure that I would have felt something in acceleration, but more importantly, if it were a caliper issue, it is very unlikely to have the issue happen on both sides at the same time. (both left and right fronts are equally worn).

 

It happend on both sides? Huh...didn't know that

Well the rotors (Brembo blanks) are not true Brembos and are made in Mexico, not Italy like the Sport and Gran Turismo lines. So it could have been the rotors.

 

hmmm, thats interesting. I guess I will look there and maybe have them resurfaced or invest in better quality.

Paul, since your here and you are most probably the person to ask, how do the dezod x-rated pads compare to the axxis ultimates or XBGs. Rather, which are they more comparable to. Also, how long so those last approx during avg driving?

 

I would say they are closer to a blend between Hawk HPS and HP+. The wear depends on your driving habits heavily. My wife has 4k on hers and they are tons left. She commutes 45 miles each way to work and she drove 1500 miles from FL to NY.

 

I am not familiar with hawk pads. I don't know how they compare to the axxis pads. In any case, people tend to be satisfied with them?

 

Yes. As a matter of fact, davetc (I think is his s/n on here) wrote a review of them

 

awesome, i'll probably go to those next. In the mean time, I'll have to check, double check and triple check my brake system so this doesn't happen again. Maybe i'll take it to a local shop if I still can't find anything. If they can't, i'll assume that they were defective pads I guess!

 

one really common thing people overlook in doing brake jobs is to wipe any and all old caliper grease off the caliper bolts, and put new grease on the bolts.
Our front calipers are a "floating" design allowing movement when the brakes are applied, and when the grease gets old, the movement can be restricted.

I would take the wheels off, then grab the caliper while still bolted up , and rock it back and forth on the bolts, the caliper should slide easily with little to no effort.

If not, they are binding up and may not be backing off the rotor surface when you let off the brakes.

Or you could just drive a while and be easy on your brakes, then pull over after like 5 miles and feel the face of your wheels, all 4.

If one feels hotter than the others, there is probibally some friction building up from a hanging pad.