View Full Version : Best coilovers for comfort?


stankubrick
10-04-2004, 06:37 AM
I wanna get a 2.5-3" drop - just for looks not racing - so I'm hoping for as smooth a ride as possible. This is my daily driver, and I drive from Sacramento to the Bay Area at least once a week. I'm on Goldlines right now which are pretty smooth already, but is it possible to get a smoother ride while still going lower?

It would be really cool if anyone can describe their own experience comparing one coilover setup with another coilover/spring setup. :D Thanks!

(whoops sorry, meant to put this under Corner Carvers)

hahajoey
10-04-2004, 09:06 AM
my buddy(JDMXB) has the tein wagon dampers..
i LOVE the ride on them things. i think u might even be able
to pick them up from him! i remembered he was trying to sell them on
classifieds.. those dampers are only available in the japanese market...
but i guess he imported a set.. they ride MUCH nicer/smoother than stock.
and a hell of a lot smoother than my tein basics.

hahajoey
10-04-2004, 09:11 AM
heres the link..

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23027&highlight=tein+wagon

i think most of the guys interested in his setup just flaked(like most buyers)..

but if u're serious,,,, he still has them! it hink he put very few miles on them..
hes probably been though 1 oilchange if even that since he had them on,

squirrel
10-04-2004, 04:03 PM
Rico, I'll give you a ride in my xB next time I see you. I have the TEIN Wagon coilovers.

projxB
10-04-2004, 04:34 PM
i have the cusco zero wagons dropped a little bit over 3" and it's not a nice ride. When i first installed them I had it dropped about 2 1/2" and it was a totally different story, they rode really really smooth. felt like a totally different car. I was really stoke on them until i dropped it lower. but i hate fender gap and damn it looks good, so i'll live with it. Ive also been thinkin about swapping them out for the HKS' but we'll have to see about that.

stankubrick
10-04-2004, 10:29 PM
brad: Thanks, I'll take you up on that offer! While driving behind you on the way to Golfland, I could already see that it looks smoother :shock: or maybe it was just because Carlos was bouncing around next to you :lol:

ryan: Thanks for that info. What have you heard about HKS? BTW, your wheels look badass 8)

joey: Oh man, I'd like to grab those Tein Wagons, but I wasn't planning on buying anything for a few months. I'm still working on new tires, spacer shims, and fender rolling. So far, though, it looks like I'm leaning towards the Tein Wagons, so I'll keep that in mind!

BTW, what wheel/tire setup did JDMXB have? I looked at squirrels 17x7 +40 (?) buddy clubs on 215/40 just barely tucked under the fender - looked really good. I have 17x8+25 205/40 all around, and I was wondering how much work it would take to fit 215/40 or 205/45 under the Tein Wagons at its lowest.

MyBoX
10-04-2004, 10:42 PM
Hey Rico, JDMXB is running Work, 17x8 and 17x9 I don't know what tire size but you should get the 205-45 next time, with 8" you not going to have that much problem with rubbing so I think that would be your best bet , with those tires you might not even need coil over since you just want them for look, You might want ask Joey too, he is running 18x8 in rear so he can give you more info about rubbing issues but you have one size smaller wheels !!! what brand of tires are you looking to get ??
By the way, are you rubbing right now ??
Take care
Sean

stankubrick
10-05-2004, 04:36 AM
Hey Rico, JDMXB is running Work, 17x8 and 17x9 I don't know what tire size but you should get the 205-45 next time, with 8" you not going to have that much problem with rubbing so I think that would be your best bet , with those tires you might not even need coil over since you just want them for look,

Look at my gap! If I am going to buy new struts eventually, I might as well go a little lower and get a smoother ride at the same time! :D

You might want ask Joey too, he is running 18x8 in rear so he can give you more info about rubbing issues but you have one size smaller wheels !!! what brand of tires are you looking to get ??
By the way, are you rubbing right now ??

That is why I wanna get tires first before the coilovers. I am not rubbing at all right now - I am right at the threshold before rubbing the rear passenger side. I would definitely rub if I had 215/40/17. When I get new tires, I might as well space out the rears and roll my fenders at the same time.

Take a look at this pic, tell me what you think.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/stankubrick/eurolines/135_3555.jpg

projxB
10-05-2004, 04:44 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/stankubrick/eurolines/135_3555.jpg

thats hott!

dump that thing..

hahajoey
10-05-2004, 08:02 AM
jdmxb is running 17x8 17x9 at a 25 or 20 offset(i forgot)..
he is rolling on trampath's.. 205/45 i think.
they're nicely stretched but even at that rubbing is still an issue!
u gotta roll ur fenders and what not..

im sitting on 8" wide in rear.. i worked for a LONG time on my car
to get it to be rubbing free at a 3" drop =)

squirrel
10-05-2004, 04:15 PM
brad: Thanks, I'll take you up on that offer! While driving behind you on the way to Golfland, I could already see that it looks smoother :shock: or maybe it was just because Carlos was bouncing around next to you :lol:

BTW, what wheel/tire setup did JDMXB have? I looked at squirrels 17x7 +40 (?) buddy clubs on 215/40 just barely tucked under the fender - looked really good. I have 17x8+25 205/40 all around, and I was wondering how much work it would take to fit 215/40 or 205/45 under the Tein Wagons at its lowest.

Rico, Its pretty smooth, and just not because Carlos was bouncing everywhere. Ask Sean, I gave him a ride at Elk Grove. The rims I have are 17x7.5 w/ 42 offset w/215/40 Neo Gens. I had to run a 3 mm spacer in the rear also.

phatfront
10-18-2004, 05:05 PM
HKS..
man do they ride nice.

doctorcue
10-18-2004, 05:11 PM
Hey Rico,

I'll post up some pics of my ride. I have the Tein Basics and I'm rolling on the same size & offset wheel as you. Should have some up today or tomorrow. As for comfort, I like this a lot more than either my RSR or Goldline springs.

chillenn310
10-18-2004, 10:12 PM
ur car looks sweet..

stankubrick
10-19-2004, 08:26 PM
Has anyone heard news on those Buddy Club prototypes Steve/bBist supposedly has on....

Hey Rico,

I'll post up some pics of my ride. I have the Tein Basics and I'm rolling on the same size & offset wheel as you. Should have some up today or tomorrow. As for comfort, I like this a lot more than either my RSR or Goldline springs.

Cool, Danny! Can't wait to see those pics....

xB_ey
10-20-2004, 01:12 AM
stan,

i have HKS HYPERMAX C-COMPACT coilovers...and i would say comfort wise...no doubt about it...go with TEIN WAGON OR BASIC. matter of fact, we were able to get danny's wife in brads car for a test ride...and after the ride...danny had him a set of Tein Coilovers...this is before he got all..."Sluricane" on us... :twisted:

i'm just an idiot and prefer my DROP, to comfort... :?

bBist
10-20-2004, 10:47 AM
Has anyone heard news on those Buddy Club prototypes Steve/bBist supposedly has on....



They work great and ride good. The only problem is that Buddy Club won't really bring them in (beacause it's a special order item and not commonly sold). So warranty would be an issue.

My suggestion, Tein. Best bang for the buck.

-Steve 8)

SGVside
10-20-2004, 11:17 PM
try the Blitz wagon coilovers. Engineered by SACHS, a german company. Nice ride and you could slam it. I have them on my car and it rides better than stock. It is not only smooth, but corners good.

stankubrick
10-21-2004, 12:04 AM
try the Blitz wagon coilovers. Engineered by SACHS, a german company. Nice ride and you could slam it. I have them on my car and it rides better than stock. It is not only smooth, but corners good.

What's the max drop F/R on those? I can't find any info on these.....

squirrel
10-21-2004, 02:51 AM
i'm just an idiot and prefer my DROP, to comfort... :?

Rico, Na'im is not an idiot. He wanted to be lower than any of us, well excpet maybe Ken. Those two are the lowest I've seen w/o air. Steve's BC coilovers are nice, but are extremely hard to come by. Even w/ my fat butt in the back seat, Steve didn't rub at all. Just don't ask him about the flat tire when I was riding in the back. :oops:

SGVside
10-21-2004, 03:33 AM
Sorry, i do not know the height adjustment specs. I do know that i have 3 treads left for the front and i can barely stick a finger in it. That is with stock tires. I have 3 treads left in the rear and i can stick about a finger and a half. Im assuming that if drop it all the way, i should have no gaps. When u fit people in the back, the rear does not sag like most springs. It is pretty stiff. It pops back up slowly and it is only set at medium stiffness. Trust me, you will notice a night and day difference with the blitz coilovers. Its worth the money. German engineered... cant go wrong with that.

xB_ey
10-21-2004, 01:45 PM
German engineered... cant go wrong with that.

being as i currently own two german cars (owned 3 before the box) along with my box, normally i would agree with that...but i had KW Coilovers (german manufactured) on a 01 VW GTI, and the drop was SICK (that's good), but the ride was crazy harsh :x

if youre thinking strictly comfort...go Tein. i'm a bit biased, but for the best compromise between comfort and a sick-azz drop...go HKS...the ride isnt as bad as im making it out. its really quite comfy.

cusco sucks(<-thats a shot at my boy Ken...with his low azz!!!)

hotbox05
10-21-2004, 07:56 PM
i have the cheapy ebay coilover slip on type and the rides pretty decent probably not as good but a nice drop .

fluxmr2spyder
10-22-2004, 12:29 AM
Tein All the way

SGVside
10-22-2004, 04:24 AM
You can check out some stuff on SACHS, the engineer of the Blitz coilovers at:

http://www.sachs-automotive.com/
htttp://www.sachsna.com

scion1616
11-23-2004, 11:55 PM
scion xb tein ss coilovers for sale. they only have about 2500 miles on them. i am swaping to air bags so i need to sell them. will sell for 950.00. i paid 1300.00 for them. i live in mobile, al. 251-391-0347

hotbox05
11-24-2004, 04:18 AM
wanna sell em?

rodney_ray
12-05-2004, 11:37 PM
Rico, I'll give you a ride in my xB next time I see you. I have the TEIN Wagon coilovers.

Seams like that is how my Tein envoy started for me. :lol:

I am riding on the Tein SS and love it. I am riding @6.5" off the ground. And I still have a slight rub in the front. Running 215/45/17. When I buy new tires (these are not wearing down very fast) I will get a lower profile so I can drop it lower. I have LOTS of travel down adjustment yet.

I am happy with Tein. Thanks Brad... :roll:

hotbox05
12-06-2004, 12:46 AM
hey rico bag it. lol. then there can be like 5 or 6 of us. lol i'll be gettin bag after christmas hopefully. i'll sell u my ebay coilovers

stankubrick
12-06-2004, 05:46 AM
You too Darren!! Woah, who's NOT on air?! lol

I think I've decided on Tein Basics. Anybody know where I could get a set for a good price?

rodney_ray
12-06-2004, 07:16 AM
http://store.yahoo.com/import-store/tebacoforscx.html

756.50 at http://www.optionimports.com/import-store/

They were the cheepest when I was looking for the SS coilovers

hahajoey
12-06-2004, 08:14 AM
tein basics?
buy my suspension!
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37217

squirrel
12-06-2004, 03:44 PM
i have a set of tein ss on my xb, but i am very unhappy with them. they make a poping noise front and rear everytime i hit a bump.

Soounds like either your springs aren't seated properly in the upper perches, or the strut nut has loosened inside the top hat.

hahajoey
12-06-2004, 05:41 PM
i totally agree with squirrel on that one.
my shock was popping or making sounds liek popping or clicking.
i didn't have it seated correctly, as soon as i re did it, the noise went away and the shocks are 100% quiet now.

squirrel
12-06-2004, 06:06 PM
i have a set of tein ss on my xb, but i am very unhappy with them. they make a poping noise front and rear everytime i hit a bump.

Soounds like either your springs aren't seated properly in the upper perches, or the strut nut has loosened inside the top hat.

But then again, what do I know? I was told that I don't know squat about Scions and shouldn't open my mouth and offer any assistance to anyone.

hotbox05
12-06-2004, 06:46 PM
who said that squirrel? i'll get em for ya. let me at em .

squirrel
12-06-2004, 07:22 PM
who said that squirrel? i'll get em for ya. let me at em .

Its all good. These so called "experts" know who they are. I even had to inform a couple of how to do certain installs. Go figure, eh?

hotbox05
12-06-2004, 08:21 PM
i guess they're just crack smokin retards that should let people help. next time theyre wrong or next time they don't know let em fall by their own lack of "expertise"

scion1616
12-07-2004, 03:04 PM
wanna sell em?scion xb tein ss coilovers for sale. they only have about 2500 miles on them. i am swaping to air bags so i need to sell them. will sell for 950.00. i paid 1300.00 for them. i live in mobile, al. 251-391-0347

hotbox05
12-07-2004, 05:28 PM
lol i've decided on bag myself sorry. thats a good price tho. good luck!