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uberspeed
07-19-2007, 05:53 PM
Just trying to organize it all and piece together info, help appreciated. I'm sure it'll serve as a reference guide to some.

I'll try to edit and update as info becomes available.

Download here: 2008xB_springs.xls (http://www.divshare.com/download/1344214-9a4)

Hope this helps folks, I was looking for something like it so I just made it...

uberspeed
07-19-2007, 07:22 PM
10 downloads and no feedback?

HiphapaSole
07-20-2007, 06:14 AM
yeah i think it will, it would be a good way to compare our options from price to performance. GREAT SUCCESS!

uberspeed
07-20-2007, 03:06 PM
Thanks. I'll just try to keep it all organized and updated as best I can.
By the way folks, if you don't have Excel all you really need are the free viewers that Microsoft provides as downloads on their site and/or if you have a gmail account they also have a section of their services that handles documents and spreadsheets.
Excel viewer: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=EN

ScionFred
07-22-2007, 04:50 AM
I found it helpful but I think the TRD info might be off a bit. I believe the TRD springs are more like 1" front and 1.5" rear drop. The stock springs have a serious front to rear rake (~1") but all the pics I've seen of TRD fitted XB2s look much more level. I'm fairly sure that the TRD springs drop the rear more than the front. I plan on finding out firsthand very soon.

Stock, my XB2 sits ~1" higher in the rear than front. Ideally I want to drop mine 1" in front and 2" in the rear.

SimpleNature
07-22-2007, 09:12 AM
I don't have excel installed on my comp!

I agree on the rake of the stock springs and I don't really like it. I'd like to investigate the stock Gen 1 xB springs. Anyone in PDX have a pair laying around?

uberspeed
07-23-2007, 04:51 AM
I found it helpful but I think the TRD info might be off a bit. I believe the TRD springs are more like 1" front and 1.5" rear drop. The stock springs have a serious front to rear rake (~1") but all the pics I've seen of TRD fitted XB2s look much more level. I'm fairly sure that the TRD springs drop the rear more than the front. I plan on finding out firsthand very soon.

Stock, my XB2 sits ~1" higher in the rear than front. Ideally I want to drop mine 1" in front and 2" in the rear.

I keep seeing threads where the owners say they settle to around 2".
I'll adjust it for the time being to 1 F and 1.5 R.
Thanks.

uberspeed
07-23-2007, 04:56 AM
I don't have excel installed on my comp!


Post 4 has solutions for you.

ScionFred
08-01-2007, 04:44 PM
I keep seeing threads where the owners say they settle to around 2".
I'll adjust it for the time being to 1 F and 1.5 R.
Thanks.

I haven't received my TRD springs yet so all I have to go by are the photos of XBs with them installed and my stock spring setup. Stock, my rear sits a little over 1" higher than the front (relative to the wheel wells) but XBs with TRD springs appear to be more balanced front to rear. I certainly hope that the TRD springs drop the rear a bit more than the front because it needs it.

I'll know for sure in about a week. For my needs, 1.5" front and 2.5" rear drop would be perfect.

OldBox
08-01-2007, 06:39 PM
xb with auto & trd springs: floor to top of wheelwell, front -26", rear - 27"

ScionFred
08-29-2007, 07:15 PM
Update on the TRD springs. I installed mine a few weeks ago and as close as I can tell, they dropped the front 1" and the rear 1.5". Possibly as much as 1.5" front and 2" rear. I sure wish I had taken more measurements before installing them. They definitely leveled the car a lot but the rear still sits a little higher (1/2"?).

Also, Eibach Sportlines are out and I've seen pics of them installed on a XB2. Unfortunately Eibach doesn't list the drop on their website but the owner claims 2.25" front and 3" rear. Judging by his pics, that sounds about right to me.

Link:

http://www.clubxb.com/forums/203783-post8.html

uberspeed
08-29-2007, 08:10 PM
It annoys me that manufacturers don't list all the specs we'd like to see. Spring rates, drop, etc.

Bigfieroman
09-04-2007, 11:51 PM
Has anyone measured the diff in height between the front and rear with the stock springs or know what the stock spring rate is?

I have heard a lot of "about an inch" in height diff, etc, but I don't have anywhere flat to measure it accurately...like to 1/8th inch or less...

ScionFred
09-05-2007, 07:54 AM
Iwish I had taken more accurate before and after measurements but as I recall, the gap from tire to wheel well lip stock was 2" front, 3.5" rear (+/-1/2"). After installing the TRD springs those gaps decreased to 1" front and 2" rear.

Not as accurate as you requested but who can even notice an 1/8" difference anyway? IMO all the available springs still fall into only 2 categories: 1-2" drop and 2-3" drop. The rest is purely semantics and brand preference.

Bigfieroman
09-10-2007, 12:20 AM
I took the measurements myself; from the ground, the top of the front wheel well is 26.75" and the top of the rear is 28.5".

This is a 1.75" difference, which means the tien springs, which have the biggest rear/front drop ratio, still only kill about 1/2 of the stock rake. That is fine with me, I hate cars that sit higher in the front (see GM fwd).

MiniGuy
09-12-2007, 10:59 AM
How Bout This... better than the XML spreadsheet... you can post this and have it made a sticky and modify it as things change/updates come.

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Here's the CODE for it... Feel Free to Copy and use this whereever you need.


[table][mrow color=red]Manufacturer[mcol color=red]Model[mcol color=red]Part #[mcol color=red]Sug. Retail[mcol color=red]Warranty[mcol color=red]Front Drop[mcol color=red]Rear Drop[mcol color=red]Linear[mcol color=red]progressive[mcol color=red]Spring Rate (F)[mcol color=red]Spring Rate (R)[mcol color=red]Availability [mrow]Tein[mcol]H.Tech[mcol]AZE151L[mcol]?[mcol]1Yr.[mcol]1.2[mcol]2.1[mcol]X[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol]. [mrow]Tein[mcol]S.Tech[mcol]AZE151L[mcol]?[mcol]1Yr.[mcol]2[mcol]2.9[mcol]X[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol]. [mrow]Tanabe[mcol]DF[mcol]TDF129[mcol]$230[mcol]3Yr.[mcol]1.7[mcol]2.1[mcol]X[mcol].[mcol]2.4kg/mm[mcol]2.7kg/mm[mcol]Now [mrow]Tanabe[mcol]NF[mcol]TNF129[mcol]$250[mcol]3Yr.[mcol]1[mcol]1.7[mcol]X[mcol].[mcol]2.6kg/mm[mcol]2.6kg/mm[mcol]Now [mrow]TRD[mcol].[mcol]PTR07-52080[mcol]$210[mcol]1Yr.[mcol]1[mcol]1.5[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol]Now [mrow]Eibach[mcol]Pro-Kit[mcol]8290.140[mcol]?[mcol]1-Million-Mile[mcol]1[mcol]1.2[mcol]X[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol]Sept? [mrow]Hotchkis[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].
[mrow]Goldline[mcol].[mcol].[mcol]$380[mcol]Lifetime[mcol]2.5[mcol]2.625[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol].[mcol]Now

Courtesy of "The Table Master" :P

uberspeed
09-12-2007, 03:09 PM
Tag! You're it! lol
Great job man, you can maintain it :P

MiniGuy
09-13-2007, 02:39 AM
Ahhhh! No way... I've done that deal before.... I'd be attached for LIFE! I just create the nifty stuff.