View Full Version : DIY: LED swap Tutorial (No 56k!!)


dasaint80
08-05-2007, 05:21 PM
Disclaimer: I'm NOT responsible for any damage done to your vehicle.


Let’s get started

IF you never solder or are not comfortable with soldering;
1. Please read some tutorials.
Soldering Tutorials 1 (http://www.streettech.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=68)
Soldering Tutorials 2 (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/present.php?p=SMD-HowTo-1)
2. Practice. I like to practice with some old/broke circuit boards, there’s no risk in braking what’s already broken!!
3. Patience. Please Take your time and look at what you’re going to be removing/modding.



Tools:
1. Solder Station. Any Solder Station will do. I recommend weller solder stations. Remember most of the components are very small so get a station that is able have different Tips.
2. Solder Wick/Braid. Get here. (https://webvia.techni-tool.com/VIA/viaImagePageIndex.jsp?row=5&pgName=viaListProducts.jsp&searchText=Techni-Tool^Tweezer,^Reverse&modifier=SEARCH&reqTitle=TITLE_VIASEARCHRESULT&newWindow=Y)
3. Reverse Action Tweezers These are great for soldering Small components. Get here. (https://webvia.techni-tool.com/VIA/viaImagePageIndex.jsp?row=4&pgName=viaListProducts.jsp&searchText=reverse^action&modifier=SEARCH&reqTitle=TITLE_VIASEARCHRESULT&newWindow=Y)

4. Solder.

Parts:
Most of the LEDs we’re going to be changing are “PLCC-2”.
I buy mine from ebay, Great Price and great turnouts!! Here’s who I use
HKJE LED Lamp Center. (http://search.stores.ebay.com/HKJE-Led-Lamp-Center_plcc-2_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfromZR10QQfsnZHKJEQ20LedQ20LampQ20CenterQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ197621527QQsatitleZplccQ2d2QQsofpZ0)


Let’s get started!!
Follow these steps and Get associated with the gauges as we go along.

Here’s what it looks like all pretty and new!
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/th_IMG_0755.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/IMG_0755.jpg)

Remove the Gauge Cover. Remove 4 Screws.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/th_IMG_0758.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/IMG_0758.jpg)

Remove the Gauge Connectors.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/th_IMG_0759.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/IMG_0759.jpg)

Remove 8 Screws and back cover.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/th_IMG_0760.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/IMG_0760.jpg)

Here’s what you’re looking at when the cover is removed.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/th_GaugeBack.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/GaugeBack.jpg)

Press Slightly on the Black Tabs to Remove the Front Cover. There’s 4 Tabs, 2 at the bottom and 2 at the top.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/th_IMG_0763.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/IMG_0763.jpg)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/th_IMG_0764.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/IMG_0764.jpg)

Here’s what we’re looking at now. Remember where the needles sit. Remove the Needles and Gauge face plate.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/th_IMG_0765.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/IMG_0765.jpg)

Let’s Remove the Circuit Board from the housing. The board should come out easily except for the section where the LCDs are connected. I used a small Flat head Screw drive to pry the circuit board out. BE PATIENT AND TAKE YOUR TIME!!!!!

Here’s the Circuit Board in all its Glory. Cue the Mystical Music. ”AHahahahaAHahaHah”.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/th_IMG_0766.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/IMG_0766.jpg)
And here’s what everything is.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/th_Frontgauge.jpg (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/LED%20swap%20Tut/Frontgauge.jpg)
Apply the solder iron tip each side the LED one at a time. If the LED doesn’t Budge use some solder wick.
Once LED is removed, apply Solder to the silver pad, if you put to much remove it with the solder wick and try again.

NOTE:
The LED will have a small notch at one corner. That tell you that Cathode leg of the LED. Face the Notch towards the Cathode Drawing on the circuit board.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Diode_symbol.svg/250px-Diode_symbol.svg.png


Place the new LED in between the silver pad while holding the LED with the Reverse action Tweezers, hit each Leg of the LED with the solder iron to solder the LED in place.
Repeat for all other LEDs you want to replace.

Here’s the Finished product.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/dasaint80/car/LEDs/ScionXB2008Done.jpg



Any comments please PMME.

dasaint80
08-05-2007, 05:24 PM
When photobucket comes back up I'll post the Huge pics.

dasaint80
08-05-2007, 08:16 PM
When putting everything back together. remember where the needles went, if you forgot, here's a tip.


Tach needle falls right on top of the "0" and the first line.
Fuel needle falls right on top of the "E".
Temp needle falls right on top of the "C".

Also Remember that the needle has too have tension when you move the needle counter-clockwise. and also move the needle counter-clockwise to adjust the settings.

SquallLHeart
08-05-2007, 08:18 PM
hey... :clap:.. nice job!

mikemann
08-06-2007, 12:43 AM
So did you do all blue led's? I notice your needles still look nice and red.

Looks great!

dasaint80
08-06-2007, 01:43 AM
Yes I did Blue for noodles. and I did Green for me. I kept the needles red for contrast.

mikemann
08-06-2007, 01:46 AM
cool. I just sent you a PM. If you could send me your hi-res pics of both I would love to see them. My brother and I both have xb's and those are the same two colors we want to do. I want blue he wants green.

I am trying to decide whether I need to get the guage face overlay or not, hoping your pics will help me out there.

Whispaz
08-06-2007, 01:55 AM
niiice. getting it done on thursday.... cant wait!!!

roXor_boXor
08-06-2007, 04:32 AM
Very nice and thanks for taking the time to put that together. :clap:

lvbitwiz
08-20-2007, 03:53 AM
Just a walk in the park (sorry for the poor quality image)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n29/bitwiz/010-Copy.jpg

TuningIsLife
09-11-2007, 05:39 PM
SaWeet!

OmenLW
09-15-2007, 06:34 PM
not sure you really meant to say this lol


Disclaimer: I'm responsible for any damage done to your vehicle.

jimmbomb
09-16-2007, 03:31 AM
Just a walk in the park (sorry for the poor quality image)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n29/bitwiz/010-Copy.jpg
lvbitwiz..... your guages arent lighting up.. now nearly at all as compared to dasaints's?? how come is that?? I mean your digital readout is lit.. but the circular guages are not lit at all.. you can barely see your needles even...
tell me that's not the norm... dasaints guages are bright & youcan actually see how much fuel you have & such.. but not yours...??? any feedback please,,... thanks.. I am supposed to have mine done on Thursday

.... jhhttp://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-6/1188285/plcc.JPG
are these the correct leds to use?? or did I get the wrong ones.... they look awfully small....
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-6/1188285/plcc2.JPG
thanks agian... jh

lvbitwiz
09-16-2007, 03:51 AM
They are lit, used the same type leds as dsaint. They will be dimmer that the speedo face but that is due to the orange filtering on the numbers. The reasone you cannot see it too well in my photo is that I shot it on full auto settings. Next time Ill snap it on night mode and let the shutter stay open for a couple seconds, then it'll show better.

jimmbomb
09-16-2007, 04:08 AM
did you look at my pictures of my LED's, lvbitwiz......?? are they the same.. I gotta know before I keep my apontment for my swap.......... can you tell by my photos if they are the same as the ones you put in yours.. I put my key in the shot for reference... thanks for your prompt reply, dude!!!.. jh

lvbitwiz
09-16-2007, 04:23 AM
Ya those are the same ones I used.

LEDmod
09-20-2007, 07:55 PM
lvbitwiz..... your guages arent lighting up.. now nearly at all as compared to dasaints's?? how come is that?? I mean your digital readout is lit.. but the circular guages are not lit at all.. you can barely see your needles even...
tell me that's not the norm... dasaints guages are bright & youcan actually see how much fuel you have & such.. but not yours...??? any feedback please,,... thanks.. I am supposed to have mine done on Thursday
That is normal....

dasaints' photo is over exposed... that's why it's so much brighter....
Also it doesn't light up blue.. it's like dim greenish blue....
It's cause by the stock gauge face being amber color... blue and amber color don't mix well..
You'll need new gauge face that outputs the blue lights properly....

Exmaple here...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b284/seanyiya/Gauge%20Face/Scion%20xB2/Photo/ScionxB2-Stock2.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b284/seanyiya/Gauge%20Face/Scion%20xB2/Photo/ScionxB2-Style4-1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b284/seanyiya/Gauge%20Face/Scion%20xB2/Photo/ScionxB2-Style4-2.jpg

dasaint80
09-20-2007, 11:26 PM
Yeah I'm in talks with a guy that will sell me new gauge cluster for cheaper than $150!!! stay tunned!!!

jimmbomb
09-21-2007, 01:02 AM
Steve... what do you have in mind for your new gauge cluster?? you got some idears???... jh

uberspeed
09-21-2007, 02:02 AM
Tuned.

dasaint80
09-21-2007, 02:14 AM
Not sure yet. I'm taking to the guy I think Monday. PLEASE DON'T BUY THE EBAY $50 ONCE!! THEY'RE REALLY CRAPPY ONE?

LEDmod
09-21-2007, 08:50 AM
Yeah I'm in talks with a guy that will sell me new gauge cluster for cheaper than $150!!! stay tunned!!!

If you are talking about something from him
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-Scion-xB-Speedometer-Gauge-White-Face-with-Blue_W0QQitemZ200151403762QQihZ010QQcategoryZ33678QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yes, you can get them cheaper, but it is just printed on color injet printer and laminted....

dasaint80
09-21-2007, 09:36 AM
Yeah I'm in talks with a guy that will sell me new gauge cluster for cheaper than $150!!! stay tunned!!!

If you are talking about something from him
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-Scion-xB-Speedometer-Gauge-White-Face-with-Blue_W0QQitemZ200151403762QQihZ010QQcategoryZ33678QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yes, you can get them cheaper, but it is just printed on color injet printer and laminted....

yea, him I'm trying to warn people not to buy from that guy.

Just wait till I come out with something!!!

jimmbomb
09-21-2007, 02:16 PM
Yeah I'm in talks with a guy that will sell me new gauge cluster for cheaper than $150!!! stay tunned!!!

If you are talking about something from him
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-Scion-xB-Speedometer-Gauge-White-Face-with-Blue_W0QQitemZ200151403762QQihZ010QQcategoryZ33678QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yes, you can get them cheaper, but it is just printed on color injet printer and laminted....

yea, him I'm trying to warn people not to buy from that guy.

Just wait till I come out with something!!!

Well, I bought from "that guy"... I cant say that I am completely happy about the price.
BUT WHAT were the alternatives???
Pay LEDMOD 150$ for oone??
N0 one else was offering one .
I will stick with this one till something better comes along.
Dasaint80, I will stay tuned for your gauge face.. I want to see what you,ve got to offer.. I still may switch out agian. let us know what you got..
& LEDMOD.. I wish you would offer a less expensive model in your line up,
or mabey even offer a DIY on making your own.. thanks... jh

uberspeed
09-21-2007, 05:14 PM
I doubt he'll post a DIY, he's trying to make $ off of this.

LEDmod
09-21-2007, 05:51 PM
I would love to sell them cheaper, but if you compare Chad injet printed gauge face vs. mine... it's night and day...
I can get so much more business if price will be lower, but if I do that then.. I'll loose money.... since it costs alot to make this kind of guage face...

If you want to make your own like mine, you'll need industrial printing system... it's similar process as screen printing but different..
Screen priting requires to make them in large quantity with same designs....
It's more like offset printing with multiple layer..
I can also do metallic colors, smoke colors, chrome etc...
There are alot went into making this gauge face then simple inkjet printing....

Alot of you people think that I'm here to make so much $$$, but if you should really consider quality of the product...

No one else has them, since it's not easy to make OEM grade quality gauge face....

I have many customer from Celica that can approve the quality....

jimmbomb
09-21-2007, 06:01 PM
thanks for your honest reply... jh

rt2productionz
10-06-2007, 04:24 AM
is there any red leds?

dasaint80
10-06-2007, 09:09 AM
Yes, check the Ebay link.

jimmbomb
10-06-2007, 01:52 PM
Yes, check the Ebay link.
hey dasaint80! Glad to see you back in here. Did you ever come up with a gauge face for us??? How are you comming along with that??.. thanks jh

LEDmod
10-06-2007, 06:09 PM
Why do you have wires tapped into the Odo and Clock switch??

jimmbomb
10-06-2007, 06:31 PM
Why do you have wires tapped into the Odo and Clock switch??
In a different thread, he detailed how he 'added' buttons down lower by the traction contol switch.. Now he doesnt have to reach all the way across the dash to access those features. Plus the existing buttons still work as well.. Pretty neat, huh??.. jh

LEDmod
10-07-2007, 07:40 AM
It's neat, but how many time do you actually use those buttons....

dasaint80
10-07-2007, 08:18 AM
I do.....

miketf1
12-02-2007, 04:34 AM
Also Remember that the needle has too have tension when you move the needle counter-clockwise. and also move the needle counter-clockwise to adjust the settings.

any one care to explain? i dont really understand what "under tension" means...

thanks for the guide!
-mike

dasaint80
12-02-2007, 12:06 PM
put the needles back on. and spin then counter clock wise untill you feel Tension or pressure. trust me you'll feel a difference!! then just bring the needle back to it's original spot!!

jimmbomb
12-02-2007, 05:39 PM
put the needles back on. and spin then counter clock wise untill you feel Tension or pressure. trust me you'll feel a difference!! then just bring the needle back to it's original spot!! I put my needles on pointing to about the 2 o'clock position then turn counterclockwise. Like dasaint says, you'll feel the tension.. then keep turning till you reach the spot they were in when you removed them.. good luck.. jh

miketf1
12-10-2007, 03:21 AM
+1 success story! now my interiour is freaking awesome!!!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mike_tseng/2099178675/

jimmbomb
12-10-2007, 03:33 AM
Nice work Miketf1......!! How did you get your P R N D S + - lights to go blue?? looks great!.. just like mine only a different HU.... So how did you light up your PRNDS+-?? jh

lvbitwiz
12-10-2007, 03:44 AM
+1 success story! now my interiour is freaking awesome!!!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mike_tseng/2099178675/

:clap: :clap: :clap:

miketf1
12-10-2007, 04:05 AM
Nice work Miketf1......!! How did you get your P R N D S + - lights to go blue?? looks great!.. just like mine only a different HU.... So how did you light up your PRNDS+-?? jh

honestly it was exactly how you did yours. i stole a strip of LEDs from my friend that had the same pack of StreetGlow OPTX as yours. so i did exactly what you did! i cut the old orange light off and i spliced the wires from the strip. they dont light the entire PRNDS evenly and more concentrates on the DS+- but i like it like that!

the only quirk about my light setup is that the premium head unit light is better described as sky blue and the other lights are a more pure blue.

FlyinLow
12-13-2007, 04:23 PM
Hey dasaint80,

I must say thanks for the LED Swap tutorial w/ the outstanding pics. It made the swap amazingly easy!

cc

____________

I'm not driving fast, I'm just flyin low...

unity303
01-07-2008, 05:28 AM
Success here too, thanks for the great tutorial!

unity303
01-07-2008, 05:34 AM
Oh yea pictures... here it is with my home brewed custom xB gauge

http://antomic.net/temp_xB/scionlife/xB%20Gauge%201%20-%20Day.jpg

http://antomic.net/temp_xB/scionlife/xB%20Gauge%202%20-%20Night.jpg

miketf1
01-07-2008, 07:53 AM
w00t! crazy gauge face! looks hella nice where did you get that?

unity303
01-07-2008, 08:22 AM
w00t! crazy gauge face! looks hella nice where did you get that?

heh thanks man, I made it... I was quite proud of it because i have never really modded cars before and I was starting to *really* enjoy bluing out the LEDs, I had no clue it would even turn out anywhere as nice. :) I've been working on a tutorial so that people can make their own with standard photo glossy paper, but I have a lot of things on my to do list before I can get to that.

unity303
01-07-2008, 08:36 AM
I guess I can talk briefly about how I made it here though since it'll probably take a lot of time before I get to making the tutorial...

DIY CUSTOM GAUGE BY UNITY303:
1) I scanned the 2 original layers (one that is normal and one with all the icons for temperature/dooropen/brakes/etc, by shining a light source on top of the scanner while it was scanning) into my computer,
2) Photoshopped the two layers on top of each other,
3) Overlay designs,
4) Create a 3rd blocking layer that blocks out any design that unintentionally bleeds into visible areas,
5) Fitted to print size, (reprint and resize as necessary)
6) Printed on normal Photo Glossy Film Paper from a color inkjet, I used a cheap old 1440dpi inkjet from eBay (Epson Stylus Scan 2500).

WARNING:
On the XB, the GREEN CRUISE ICON is hard to see during the day because the photo glossy film paper doesn't let the Green LED light pass through very well. It looks fine at night though. Now that I think about it, if I replaced it with a Blue LED it would probably be visible during the day.

IF YOU WANT ONE OF THESE:
Hmm I don't want to design these for other people... but I could just print up some more of the ones I already designed and send them out if anybody wants. PM me for cost if ur really interested :) I can have an amber version (instead of blue) that I can print

unity303
01-10-2008, 05:40 AM
Just FYI anyone interested... the DIY Tutorial

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=206424

Amoxaphobic
01-14-2008, 06:45 AM
Bookmarked. I got to remember where this post is.

sho0b0x
01-16-2008, 10:46 PM
So I am sorta unhappy about my led purchase from ebay. 3 dollars of leds, but the shipping was 12bucks? :rofl:

Whispaz
01-17-2008, 02:27 AM
/\ yea, thats how they get you. I once bought a set of underglow lights for $.01 but the shipping was $35

jimmbomb
01-18-2008, 01:16 AM
But if you look at the same products from the same sellers, you'll see say they'll have the LED's for like 10 bucks with 5 shipping.. Either way, you're gonna end up spending 15 for the whole works.. look at the other prices.. you'll see that the morre expensive ones will have cheaper shipping, making everything equal or dammn close to it.. The lower price just attracts the eye.. jh

lvbitwiz
01-18-2008, 02:57 AM
But if you look at the same products from the same sellers, you'll see say they'll have the LED's for like 10 bucks with 5 shipping.. Either way, you're gonna end up spending 15 for the whole works.. look at the other prices.. you'll see that the morre expensive ones will have cheaper shipping, making everything equal or dammn close to it.. The lower price just attracts the eye.. jh


mouser.com forget ebay

vertex
01-27-2008, 02:37 AM
I ordered and received 800 mcd LEDs, (lvbitwiz and jh look like they both used 500....) So, once I get my box back from a depressing longhaul of crap, I'll start modding this!

jimmbomb
01-27-2008, 03:10 AM
I ordered and received 800 mcd LEDs, (lvbitwiz and jh look like they both used 500....) So, once I get my box back from a depressing longhaul of crap, I'll start modding this!
Can you post up a link to those 800 mcd's., vertex .. i want to see those,...........Did you get them thru mouser?? i may up-grade to the brighter ones once YOU tell us where to get them.... jh

vertex
01-27-2008, 03:36 AM
I ordered from these fellas: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AMT%3A11&viewitem=&item=260202805362
Same company as mentioned earlier I believe. Took a LONG time for the shipping, but oh well. I will be posting pictures when this is complete.
I planned on getting a custom plate from LEDmod as well. Not sure if I'll do that, or just print my own, or print my own and get a face later. haha.

Amoxaphobic
01-28-2008, 10:07 AM
I ordered from these fellas: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AMT%3A11&viewitem=&item=260202805362
Same company as mentioned earlier I believe. Took a LONG time for the shipping, but oh well. I will be posting pictures when this is complete.
I planned on getting a custom plate from LEDmod as well. Not sure if I'll do that, or just print my own, or print my own and get a face later. haha.

Those are def the people to get LEDs from. Shipping does take a while, but if you order in bulk the prices can't be beat.... even including shipping.

noservice2001
02-02-2008, 12:34 PM
what other colors can you do?

jimmbomb
02-02-2008, 03:15 PM
what other colors can you do?

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&dfsp=1&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=plcc-2&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=63114&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&fgtp=

Looks like all kinds of colors are available... jh

Amoxaphobic
02-03-2008, 10:53 AM
They have every color you need. I ordered some pink ones for a guy that did it for his GF.... those were some serious pink LEDs.

In my book, those people linked are the best people to deal with. Cheap, fast (for hong kong anyways), and very good quality. Not to mention friendly and willing to help you out in anyway you need.

DJ_FroZone
02-20-2008, 03:59 PM
ok i need a little more info. i plan to get a gauge face in blue. so where can i change the cruise light and headlight signals to blue? can someone make a picture showing where they are on the circuit board? also how do i do the radio? i have a stock radio so that would be next to make all blue.

DJ_FroZone
02-24-2008, 02:38 PM
YO

jimmbomb
02-24-2008, 02:53 PM
dj........ there is a pic of the naked circuit board in the DIY... print that picture out to have for a reference....
Then you use your stock gauge face to locate the bulbs you want to swap.. for example.. I couldnt see my 'Lights' or "Cruise" & "Hi-Beams" icons thru my new gauge face.. They were stock green lights, (except for the HI-BEAMS which was a kind of UV dim white)...
I used the stock gauge face to reference their location on the circuit board & switched those 3 to WHITE plcc's.. SO.. just look to your stock gauge face,,, hold it up to the light & you'll see the icons. Then find the location on the circuit board for that particular bulb you want to swap.. It aint hard, man.. just look!!!!good luck & you better post up pictures of your work... .. jh

FlyinLow
02-24-2008, 03:18 PM
Yo DJ!
Jimmbomb is exactly right on the circuit boad. If you need the link, let me know.
I have a stock stereo that has been converted to blue. PM if you are interested in it. My new Premium deck should be here next week.

jimmbomb
02-24-2008, 03:30 PM
The orange is gone at last!. AMEN to that brothaaaaaaaa!! same here... EXCEPT for the 'Auto' button on the drivers window switch, centers in the HVAC, & skid control thing.. BUT I like the orange contrast on those small indicators, so they are staying.... BLue on Black!!!.. jh

FlyinLow
02-25-2008, 02:34 AM
Hey Jimmbomb,
I completely missed those in the window and traction contrik buttons. I guess that I have another project this week. I will post pics when my stuff gets back from Patterntek.

loneeagle
02-25-2008, 06:13 AM
anyone interested in doing the LED swap to my xb?

DJ_FroZone
02-25-2008, 12:03 PM
anyone interested in doing the LED swap to my xb?same here for the radio or at least a diagram i could do it my self. cause i got those skills. :)

FlyinLow
02-25-2008, 09:42 PM
Hi Guys,

There isn't anyone that has posted one for the radio. I too have good soldering skills and have done all of the other stuff myself, including the HVAC knobs and I gave up on doing the stereo LED's myself. The LED's are so small, that they were impossible to work with. To put it into perspective, they were about 1/4 the size of a PLCC-2 LED.

My conversion was done by Sean @ LEDmod.com. He did it one day! The work is impeccable too. That's were I bought my conversion kit for the dash, HVAC, Mode button and stereo.

FlyinLow
02-25-2008, 09:44 PM
Loneeagle,

If you supply the LED's, I'll do the solder work for you on the gauges. Just PM me.

longboardluv
02-25-2008, 11:42 PM
ok i put the back cargo area LED light in today, wow it's pretty bright. i just went with white because the stock one was pretty lame. thanks for all the help and the DIY videos.

krazyscion
02-26-2008, 03:22 AM
nice writeup i have yet to try it by myself :bow:

DJ_FroZone
03-11-2008, 09:22 PM
so do i need reverse action twezers?

FlyinLow
03-11-2008, 09:51 PM
DJ,

Are you still talking about the stereo or for the mode button? For the mode button, they would help, but they aren't necessary. For the stereo, I'd say YES.

DJ_FroZone
03-11-2008, 09:57 PM
actually im refering to the gauge faces in general. i think i will leave my radio alone. i haven't found a solid DIY and i don't got the money to pay. so i think i'll just save for that avic-d3 i keep hearing about.

btw how do i get the needles out of the gauge face?? i got a desgin in there but idk how to get the needle, knobs, and black long things out (buttons for mode switches)

FlyinLow
03-12-2008, 04:42 PM
The needles just pop right off. Just grab both side with your fingertips and pull gently. Be careful not to bend the posts.

You don't pull those button caps off. You can leave those where they are.

Just pull the whole gauge assembly out and remove the screws. Then you can separate the whole assembly at that point.

DJ_FroZone
03-21-2008, 01:27 AM
Difference between 800 mcd and 500 mcd??? anyone?

jimmbomb
03-21-2008, 01:58 AM
Difference between 800 mcd and 500 mcd??? anyone?

look at my post here in the first page of this thread, brian...

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=187351&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0

shows a pic of the leds.. & they are the 500's....... they'll do just fine......
dont know about the 800's though........

on page 3 of this thread, the guy 'vertex' said he got the 800's & promised pics of them done up, but he never returned yet...

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=187351&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=40

mabey you can PM him & ask him to show us the pics of the 800's in use....



BUT I see no ones really asked or prepared you to the point that you WILL have to remove the LCD screens too!! & let me tell you, bud.. that's gonna test your nerve! It sure did mine.. Anyways, they just seems so fragile & I didnt want to bust them, so be carefull, paitent & slow & methodical.. dont force them, just tug evenly on all sides if you can.... good luck, dude.......... jh

DJ_FroZone
03-21-2008, 02:11 AM
wait a sec... remove lcd? u mean the speedometer and time things?? i think 800 mcd is brighter....imma do those!!!

jimmbomb
03-21-2008, 02:21 AM
yes////// those screens have to come out to seperate the circuit board from the white plastic houseings....... ok get the 800's... I'll buy 15 of them from ya when you get 'em......?? think about it........ I like wiring those little buggers & sticking them in really small places..... jh

DJ_FroZone
03-21-2008, 02:32 AM
yo u know what i got a problem with my prndl likghts imma take a pic and soo who can give me a good solution with the wiring. and ya no prob with the 800s. im curios to how u randomly wire them up?? but i've never seen em so mabye im missing something. i get 50 in a pack so i think 35 should be enough for Dash, cruise, lights, and mode button. did u need those reverse action tweezers???i don't think i have those....


so many questions :)

jimmbomb
03-21-2008, 03:22 AM
You need some of those,?? I bought a set, but really dont like em, as the led's kept wanting to slip out of the jaws.. I even bent them slightly to give em a better grip, but I just like the regular tweezers better... Shoot me a Pm with your address & I'll mail them to you.
To wire them, you just solder small wire to each side of them & make sure you also put one of those resistors in one of the wires.. then hook it up to 12 volt.. if it dont turn on, then reverse the hook up & it'll light! I used them for the inside of my speakers, inside the window switches, up agianst the plexi-glass sub cover, & if you sell me some, ( you dont have to you know, if you got some extra), I may go inside the A/C dash vents too & inside of my mirror housings ( to glow between the mirror glass & the housing from the inside). The possibilities are endless as they have a wide angle output to them versus regular leds which are more of a 'spot beam'... have fun with then, DJ.. You'll see once you start wiring theem up & sticking them places....
As far as your P R N D L.... there is only 1 light bulb in there now.. It has only 2 wires going to it. YOu tap into those 2 wires with your new blue light wires... then test it.. If it dont light up, then reverse the hook up & it'll work... Ijust tapped into the existing bulb wires... the stock bulb is still there & lit, just removed it from the housing & let it dangle deep inside the shifter cavity........ you'll see, man.......... you did your dome light & your turn sigs... just take your time........ one light at a time....... test after each hook up.....
good luck... jh

MauiGideon
03-21-2008, 11:58 AM
10,000 MCD? Im new to this so is there a limit 2 brightness? Is 500 max?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7575844813&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=260202805362&itemcount=12&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%252BSD%26itu%3DSD%252BISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D12

MauiGideon
03-21-2008, 12:23 PM
+1 success story! now my interiour is freaking awesome!!!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mike_tseng/2099178675/

hey mike how did u change ur ac lights and all that???

DJ_FroZone
03-21-2008, 12:35 PM
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=187980&highlight= ^^^^^^^^

miketf1
03-21-2008, 06:03 PM
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=187980&highlight= ^^^^^^^^

i second that motion! tip though, make sure that you test the light before you reassemble everything cause if you dont get the polarity right of the LED then it wont light up and it sucks to disassemble everything..

dasaint80
03-21-2008, 07:52 PM
10,000 MCD? Im new to this so is there a limit 2 brightness? Is 500 max?

different colors need different power. blue, Green, White yellow, they need more power with in case would make it brighter. The power wouldn't matter to us because it's a constant power through the circuit board. If we were to start from scratch it would be matter because we would pick how much power and brightness is being release at a time.


P.S. I'm glad that my DIY has been helping so many of you guy here on SL.

jimmbomb
03-21-2008, 08:24 PM
10,000 MCD? Im new to this so is there a limit 2 brightness? Is 500 max?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7575844813&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=260202805362&itemcount=12&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%252BSD%26itu%3DSD%252BISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D12 This link here goes to 5mm LEDs. They are NOT the type that goes into the LED swap for the gauges.... For the gauges, you need PLCC-2's....... NOT the 5mm or 3mms.. just so's you dont order the wrong ones..... GL jh

DJ_FroZone
03-22-2008, 03:38 AM
You need some of those,?? I bought a set, but really dont like em, as the led's kept wanting to slip out of the jaws.. I even bent them slightly to give em a better grip, but I just like the regular tweezers better... Shoot me a Pm with your address & I'll mail them to you.
To wire them, you just solder small wire to each side of them & make sure you also put one of those resistors in one of the wires.. then hook it up to 12 volt.. if it dont turn on, then reverse the hook up & it'll light! I used them for the inside of my speakers, inside the window switches, up agianst the plexi-glass sub cover, & if you sell me some, ( you dont have to you know, if you got some extra), I may go inside the A/C dash vents too & inside of my mirror housings ( to glow between the mirror glass & the housing from the inside). The possibilities are endless as they have a wide angle output to them versus regular leds which are more of a 'spot beam'... have fun with then, DJ.. You'll see once you start wiring theem up & sticking them places....
As far as your P R N D L.... there is only 1 light bulb in there now.. It has only 2 wires going to it. YOu tap into those 2 wires with your new blue light wires... then test it.. If it dont light up, then reverse the hook up & it'll work... Ijust tapped into the existing bulb wires... the stock bulb is still there & lit, just removed it from the housing & let it dangle deep inside the shifter cavity........ you'll see, man.......... you did your dome light & your turn sigs... just take your time........ one light at a time....... test after each hook up.....
good luck... jhthanks jim just orded the bulbs. will be here wensday or so. who knows. i got regular tweezers. so ya that should be ok. make a vid/tut/w/e fot putting them in the ac vents. i doubt i'll use all 50 between the dash sending u 15 and the mode button. so that would be fun to have it light up in there when the lights come on. i got the dash pads so no more lights in the cub vents otherwise i gotta cut stuff up and idk wanna do that. having some in the door handles/cup handles woulda been sweet though.

Peace

also ( i seem to do this alot) where can i buy resitors i would assume i would need those

vertex
03-31-2008, 03:10 AM
I was considering doing White, guys.... Should I do white, or blue? Someone mentioned the white might be too distracting. I have all blue lights now, I think a white accent might be cool to the 'frostbyte' theme.

MauiGideon
04-01-2008, 09:49 PM
That HKJE LED lamp center place gave me 50 - 510 Ohm Resistors instead of my LEDS! :tap:


Booooooo!

jimmbomb
04-01-2008, 11:07 PM
mauiGideon: are you sure you didnt get them?? Shoewbox thought the same thing too, but on closer look, they were in there.. very small....... a strip about3/16"tall & about 2 " long..... black w/white spots (the leds).....

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-6/1188285/plcc.JPG



hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm good luck with them! (HKJE)...

Vertex.. I am liking your idea to mix them up!!!.. you know your speedo screen has 6 leds behind it.. 2 rows of 3...... I am thinking.. white over blue....
and the LCD clock screen has one row of 3......... mabey white/blue/white......
If you got the time & patirence, you could try different combo's hook it up & see what they look like till you decide on a look that you cant live without.. Post picture s of what you do.. even the combos. take lots of pictures & let's see em.....jh

MauiGideon
04-01-2008, 11:41 PM
Ahh I see them now... they are in that little bottom packet.. I guess Resistors come free? lol
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/mauigideon/LEDS.jpg

MauiGideon
04-01-2008, 11:49 PM
Well since I got my LEDS and my solder gun... I was thinking of doing this now.. OR should I wait and buy a gaugeplate from the myspace guy for $50.00? I dont think the blue LEDS will penetrate the amber gauge faceplate that well in the day right?

DJ_FroZone
04-02-2008, 12:17 AM
^^^^^^^http://www.customxbgauges.com/

jimmbomb
04-02-2008, 12:39 AM
IMHO........I say go for it!!! & you be the judge...
AFA the gauge face,,, you could order one from him, have him MAKE you a custom one as I did, or you could make your own!! If you have PHOTOSHOP skills, there is a thread with a template alreay on it.. You just add your pics.. re-size, change colors, etc, & print it up on regular photopaper...... lemme know if you need the thread for that.. I want to do that but lack the PS skills. & I dont have anyone close to STL for a 'sit down' session with me to make mine.......... good luck..... jh

lvbitwiz
04-02-2008, 02:30 AM
Well since I got my LEDS and my solder gun... I was thinking of doing this now.. OR should I wait and buy a gaugeplate from the myspace guy for $50.00? I dont think the blue LEDS will penetrate the amber gauge faceplate that well in the day right?

Tell me you're not going to use a soldergun please It's an april fools gag right? You're really using a nice low-wattage iron and youre just yanking our respective chains

CIONIDE
04-02-2008, 03:27 AM
Happy Birthday lvbitwiz!

lvbitwiz
04-02-2008, 03:46 AM
Happy Birthday lvbitwiz!

Thanks :)

xseveredveganx
04-02-2008, 04:06 AM
Happy Birthday lvbitwiz!

Thanks :)
For your birthday, are you going to swap out my LED's for me? :P

MauiGideon
04-03-2008, 07:16 AM
yes yes soldering iron is what I meant...
http://www.amazon.com/Weller-Soldering-Battery-Powered-BP645/dp/B000MIQBAI

oops



Also... Im guessing it would be a bad idea 2 turn all the LED's Blue?

Im thinking about doing that...

MauiGideon
04-03-2008, 10:57 PM
Wow this is alot harder than I thought... I cant even get the solder 2 melt enough so I can pull out the LED or I cant even use my braid cuz there is so little space...

Ok I give up >.<!

I dont know if my solder iron is 2 weak or wat but the leds aint coming off :(

Anyone can recommend a good resasonable priced solder Iron I can buy at like Home depot or lowes or something...

DJ_FroZone
04-04-2008, 02:10 AM
go to radio shack. 25-watt or higher shoudl be fine. i have a 75 and a 25. hope on it. and some desoldering briad to (its copper collored)

jimmbomb
04-04-2008, 03:40 AM
Wow this is alot harder than I thought... I cant even get the solder 2 melt enough so I can pull out the LED or I cant even use my braid cuz there is so little space...

Ok I give up >.<!

I dont know if my solder iron is 2 weak or wat but the leds aint coming off :(

Anyone can recommend a good resasonable priced solder Iron I can buy at like Home depot or lowes or something...
I usually get a small drop of solder on the tip of my iron first.. then stick that to one side of the existing PLCC & get it to go liquid while lifting that edge with my fingernail.. then that one side will come loose & it'll stand up on an angle with one ....side off... then grab the up-raided LED & touch the other side & it'll come right off.... after it off. use solder wick ( braid) to remove all solder from the board... .... put a fresh drop back on. .... then also put a drop on each side of the LED BEFORE you tthen attach it to the board......... good luck......... jh

MauiGideon
04-04-2008, 09:37 AM
Ohhhh dannggg..... So I put all my panels back (w/o the new lights) and when I turn my car on everything works... But Now I cant change my little LED screen... The one that tells the time and MPG... Its stuck at Instant MPG and I cant change it 2 anything else... should I not put on my LEDS for now and take it in 2 scion and ask them wats wrong lol?

Im gonna try 2 take it apart one more time and see if theres any lose connections 2mrw... But if its still acting up... Idk!!

jimmbomb
04-04-2008, 12:16 PM
Ohhhh dannggg..... So I put all my panels back (w/o the new lights) and when I turn my car on everything works... But Now I cant change my little LED screen... The one that tells the time and MPG... Its stuck at Instant MPG and I cant change it 2 anything else... should I not put on my LEDS for now and take it in 2 scion and ask them wats wrong lol?

Im gonna try 2 take it apart one more time and see if theres any lose connections 2mrw... But if its still acting up... Idk!!you may have that long black 'push button' jammed... look to see if it's free of the clear plastic piece that it goes through..

DJ_FroZone
04-05-2008, 05:35 AM
ok where r the cruise and "lights on" leds those r goin blue too. just got my plccs tonight!!!

MauiGideon
04-05-2008, 06:36 AM
Finished! Woot! I blued out my Door,Seatbelt,brake, and cruise light also!
Now I just need 2 figure out how 2 do the PRND Lights... I know there was a post about this somewhere... Anyone remember it?


DJFRO - 2 Find the cruise light just hook up ur dash w/o the front guages then press the cruise button and mark the light with like a sharpie when it turns on lol... Das how I found it :)

DJ_FroZone
04-05-2008, 02:07 PM
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=195379&highlight=

there u go. sweet thanks for the info.

also Post pics or it didn't happen

DJ_FroZone
04-05-2008, 04:07 PM
yes////// those screens have to come out to seperate the circuit board from the white plastic houseings....... ok get the 800's... I'll buy 15 of them from ya when you get 'em......?? think about it........ I like wiring those little buggers & sticking them in really small places..... jhwait why should i remove those two black screens???? isn't that how the numers show up????? i need conformation here or some pics. im almost done and it looks great. but idk why i should take the screens off of the white board

DJ_FroZone
04-05-2008, 04:09 PM
and any way to change the needle colors? or is that red gonna preside over all

jimmbomb
04-05-2008, 04:17 PM
there are 3 leds behind the small screen & 6 leds behind the larger screen. if you dont change those, they will remain orange ( your digits)....
I saw a thread that has you scraping off the paint (red) off the needles & laying a new stripe of different color paint on..... that's the only thing I have ever seen about changing needle color.. you physicall have to remove the red paint & replace it with the color of choice...,,
to quote DJFROZONE.aka captian Butterknife......., authour of the Butterknife Mods....... """Post Pics or it DIDNT Happen""".............jh

DJ_FroZone
04-05-2008, 04:33 PM
thanks man! im workin on it right now!!!! just did open door lights. im chanign the blinkers too. but leaving the high beam. my question is near the lights on led. there is a weired symbol. its like a highbeem symbol but its got 3 waves pointing down. whats that

DJ_FroZone
04-05-2008, 05:16 PM
did anybody else change the needle lights to blue even though they wil show up red

DJ_FroZone
04-05-2008, 05:33 PM
too late did it already :)

MauiGideon
04-05-2008, 07:57 PM
also Post pics or it didn't happen


Wallaa! I also did both blinker sides and he hi light... But I forgot 2 turn those on :doh: Now I just need my custom gaugeplate from jason!
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/mauigideon/download.jpg



Also I wanna see ur pic with the blue needles... How'd they turn out?

DJ_FroZone
04-05-2008, 08:35 PM
well they are not blue but it doesn't make a red hue around like if i kept the orginal ones in. im thikning i may go back and turn on those guage signles on the 4th gauge to blue (mostly warning light things )

jimmbomb
04-05-2008, 08:37 PM
also Post pics or it didn't happen


Wallaa! I also did both blinker sides and he hi light... But I forgot 2 turn those on :doh: Now I just need my custom gaugeplate from jason!
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc278/mauigideon/download.jpg



Also I wanna see ur pic with the blue needles... How'd they turn out?
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:


Looks Good, MauiG......

I cant wait till tonite.. iIwant to see pictures from DJFrozone && from MauiGideon jh

DJ_FroZone
04-07-2008, 12:50 AM
TADA??!!

http://www.divshare.com/img/thumb/4188635-64c.JPG (http://www.divshare.com/download/4188635-64c)

http://www.divshare.com/img/thumb/4188633-027.JPG (http://www.divshare.com/download/4188633-027)

http://www.divshare.com/img/thumb/4188632-f42.JPG (http://www.divshare.com/download/4188632-f42)

http://www.divshare.com/img/thumb/4188631-a22.JPG (http://www.divshare.com/download/4188631-a22)

http://www.divshare.com/img/thumb/4188630-a84.JPG (http://www.divshare.com/download/4188630-a84)

DJ_FroZone
04-07-2008, 12:52 AM
TADA??!!

http://www.divshare.com/img/thumb/4188635-64c.JPG (http://www.divshare.com/download/4188635-64c)

http://www.divshare.com/img/thumb/4188633-027.JPG (http://www.divshare.com/download/4188633-027)

http://www.divshare.com/img/thumb/4188632-f42.JPG (http://www.divshare.com/download/4188632-f42)

http://www.divshare.com/img/thumb/4188631-a22.JPG (http://www.divshare.com/download/4188631-a22)

http://www.divshare.com/img/thumb/4188630-a84.JPG (http://www.divshare.com/download/4188630-a84)


IM REALLY BAD at the cutting with the exacto knife thing and i gotta get a new one. I have a backup gauge face. so imma do it again. (fingerprints EVERYwhere) and putting the stock faceplate just made it all dark and nothing shows up.

jimmbomb
04-07-2008, 01:08 AM
GOOD JOB!!!!!

DJ_FroZone
04-07-2008, 01:26 AM
yah i might try ur little tatoo thing. scrape all the orange of (using what) then since the black will kill alot of that excess light. but i might make it look really dull at night. then again for 93 cents i can get a dark blue folder (What materrial or pics) and put that over that clear protector thing where teh needles go, then just add my custiom gauge face. that might work better actually. (i edit jack poo so if u get mad that i just changed ideas mid post too damn bad). hmmm. im thinking the folder layout and save the stock gauge.

jimmbomb
04-07-2008, 01:33 AM
LOL LOL LOL. good luck what ever you do. Hey by the way.. I want to see your new gauge face in the day time.. let's see your design........jh

jimmbomb
04-07-2008, 01:38 AM
You didnt do your Needles, DJ?????...jh

DJ_FroZone
04-07-2008, 02:01 AM
i left the needles alone actually. i swapped the lights that are normally red there for blue. the neeldes are now just kinda dull red and don't light up really at all... but i think of leaving it blue and just work on getting things to light better. using that folder method

low_down_xb
04-21-2008, 08:56 PM
i know this might be a dumb question but after looking thru all these pages i still dont know how many i need. i need to do the cluster assembley, low end radio, steering wheel control, hvac, shifter light and window switch. how many and what kind?

FlyinLow
04-21-2008, 09:08 PM
Buy the conversion kit from sean@ledmod.com. He will include enough for the conversion. The conversion of the stock radio was a bit beyond my soldering equipment. I had him do that, but did all of the other stuff myself. If you want to buy a blue-converted stock stereo let me know.

FlyinLow
04-21-2008, 10:04 PM
To be specific, if you want to do just the gauge cluster, you will use at least 17 PLCC-2 LED's (more if you convert all of the indicator LED's too). You will need two 1206's for the Mode button and for the Traction Control switch. The shifter console involves some creativity. You will need an LED strip for that. The HVAC controls either require Sean's HVAC kit, or you can go with the neowedge bulbs from autolumination.com .

low_down_xb
04-22-2008, 12:37 AM
Thanks I will have to look into all that, any ideas on the radio or where to find the info? I need to do it in pink so the blue is out

dasaint80
04-22-2008, 01:48 AM
Nice to see 7 pages of my DIY going on here...

FlyinLow
04-22-2008, 01:57 AM
Dasaint, your DIY got a lot of people going on the swaps. Thanks again for the great right up!

FlyinLow
04-22-2008, 02:09 AM
Hey Low_Down,
Check with Sean on the radio too. Taking the face plate off is very easy. Remove the stereo. Look on each side of the face for a two small screws. Just remove those screws, then gently unclip the face from the stereo. Then you will need to remove the screws from the backside of the PCB to expose the component side. There you will see the LED's to be swapped. Removing them is super easy, but soldering on 0805 led's is harder than it looks. They are so small, that they were actually too small for me even with my reverse action tweezers and a 1mm soldering tip.

Look up Garage1217. He sells pink converted stereos. However, I must warn you, pink led's fade rather quickly. So you may be making more work for yourself in the near future.

That being said, if you do it, post pics. I've only seen pink LED swaps on TC's. I am thinking of doing it for my wife in her next car. My idea is to use white LED's with a pink velum overlay.

low_down_xb
04-22-2008, 04:13 AM
cool thanks for the info, ill check into that too

FlyinLow
04-22-2008, 02:15 PM
Good luck!

dasaint80
05-15-2008, 03:54 PM
i know this might be a dumb question but after looking thru all these pages i still dont know how many i need. i need to do the cluster assembley, low end radio, steering wheel control, hvac, shifter light and window switch. how many and what kind?

you'd be save buying like a 100 pack.

PM
06-07-2008, 11:00 PM
sorry, don't know if this was asked before... BUT:

what are the stock led colors behind the gauge face for all the tach numbers, E-F, and C-H, gauges? are they orange like the faceplate or are they something else?

dasaint80
06-07-2008, 11:11 PM
Yes for the orange. Don't know what the E-F and C-H mean.

PM
06-08-2008, 02:01 AM
Yes for the orange. Don't know what the E-F and C-H mean.

i meant are the LED's behind the Gas Gauge and Coolant Temp Orange as well... sorry for not being more distinct lol.

so if i change the faceplates to have the white a white rpm band on the photo paper as opposed to the stock orange, they will still light orange?

dasaint80
06-08-2008, 12:23 PM
no, each individual LED is the color you see.

PregoRollerSkate
06-18-2008, 08:15 PM
Nice work! Tempting.......

Akrylic09
08-07-2008, 03:54 PM
Sorry for this big bump from the dead but i had a couple of questions about this. When you swap out you leds, are there any resistors you have to swap also? im about to do my GF's guage to all white leds with pink needles, and i know that when i did the swap on my tC to all white, i needed to swap out a couple of resistors in the process so i was wondering if it was the same for the 2nd gen xB....

any help would be appreciated.

thanks

jimmbomb
08-07-2008, 11:47 PM
Nope!! No resistors need to be swapped for the o8 xB gauges..... good luck.. jh

miketf1
08-08-2008, 01:05 AM
i would think that there are resistors to swap out but as Garage1217 hasnt attacked the xB2 gauges yet there arent any known resistors to swap. plus it all lights up well for me..

hey where are you getting your pink needles? i want a set of clear!

lvbitwiz
08-08-2008, 03:27 AM
no resistors to swap

and clear needles rock

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n29/bitwiz/needles3005.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n29/bitwiz/newneedles005.jpg

DJ_FroZone
08-08-2008, 06:02 AM
WOOAH how we get clear needles HEYYO!

CIONIDE
08-08-2008, 06:38 AM
WOOAH how we get clear needles HEYYO!
Captain butterknife & his sidekick hello kitty make an appearance! :lol:

How's it going now that you're not freezing? :P

DJ_FroZone
08-08-2008, 07:00 AM
WOOAH how we get clear needles HEYYO!
Captain butterknife & his sidekick hello kitty make an appearance! :lol:

How's it going now that you're not freezing? :PDEAR GOD 2 months later and U would be the first to comment. LOL. anyways were doin fine. anyways how do iz make clear needles.

*btw Digital 8k HIDS
and Grill LEDS planned stay tuned

xseveredveganx
08-08-2008, 07:13 AM
8k HID's, FTL. Just an FYI...

I should've went 4300K like CIONIDE said... *sigh*

CIONIDE
08-08-2008, 07:18 AM
I should've went 4300K like CIONIDE said... *sigh*
I just like being "blinded by the light." :shock:

DJ_FroZone
08-08-2008, 01:31 PM
8k HID's, FTL. Just an FYI...

I should've went 4300K like CIONIDE said... *sigh* yah but remember im goin for that whole blue tint ish look. so idk want just white. i may go 6k if this one dealer has just enough blue in it.

Akrylic09
08-08-2008, 02:09 PM
i would think that there are resistors to swap out but as Garage1217 hasnt attacked the xB2 gauges yet there arent any known resistors to swap. plus it all lights up well for me..

hey where are you getting your pink needles? i want a set of clear!

well thats what im trying to figure out on how to do.... i thought the xb2 needles were going to be just like the tC; painted on so all i wouldve had to do is take off the old paint and paint it pink....but after speaking with jeremy(garage1217) i guess the red on the needles is tinted on....so i dont know what to really do.....

and x2....how did you guys make your needles clear?

lvbitwiz
08-09-2008, 12:06 AM
i would think that there are resistors to swap out but as Garage1217 hasnt attacked the xB2 gauges yet there arent any known resistors to swap. plus it all lights up well for me..

hey where are you getting your pink needles? i want a set of clear!

well thats what im trying to figure out on how to do.... i thought the xb2 needles were going to be just like the tC; painted on so all i wouldve had to do is take off the old paint and paint it pink....but after speaking with jeremy(garage1217) i guess the red on the needles is tinted on....so i dont know what to really do.....

and x2....how did you guys make your needles clear?

afaik, I've got the only set of clear for the xb2 (actually have two sets, one was the prototype) they are milled out of lexan. Mine are custom jobs with the 7's milled into the top. the core itself was made from two layers, one clear and one red. this way the needles get the blue light and the 7's illuminate red. the pics really dont do it justice

as far as details on how to get em (actually who to contact) go here http://www.scionapocalypse.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3101

more importantly, be paitent. The guy does have a normal full time job

lvbitwiz
08-09-2008, 05:30 AM
WOOAH how we get clear needles HEYYO!
Captain butterknife & his sidekick hello kitty make an appearance! :lol:

How's it going now that you're not freezing? :P

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Just1n
08-10-2008, 02:19 AM
Those vegas needles are overratedhttp://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb279/Just1nA/hide1.gif lol

lvbitwiz
08-10-2008, 06:48 AM
Those vegas needles are overratedhttp://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb279/Just1nA/hide1.gif lol

:rofl:

go on, show em your gauge goodness

Whispaz
08-10-2008, 09:45 PM
WOOAH how we get clear needles HEYYO!
Captain butterknife & his sidekick hello kitty make an appearance! :lol:

How's it going now that you're not freezing? :P

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:D haha, where have you been?



quick question... has anyone else had a problem with their lights. yesterday my clock/gear indicator screen's light shut off. I can still see the info but the blue light wasnt on. everything was working fine. then about 30 min later it works. i go to work and on my way home it shuts off again. i checked the harness thinking it may be loose but everythings fine.
I've been thinking of changing to pink leds... haha. wife says no but i think it'll be nice. we'll see what happens!

jimmbomb
08-10-2008, 09:58 PM
WOOAH how we get clear needles HEYYO!
Captain butterknife & his sidekick hello kitty make an appearance! :lol:

How's it going now that you're not freezing? :P

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:D haha, where have you been?



quick question... has anyone else had a problem with their lights. yesterday my clock/gear indicator screen's light shut off. I can still see the info but the blue light wasnt on. everything was working fine. then about 30 min later it works. i go to work and on my way home it shuts off again. i checked the harness thinking it may be loose but everythings fine.
I've been thinking of changing to pink leds... haha. wife says no but i think it'll be nice. we'll see what happens! wiapaz???/ WTF????? Did you just say something about PINK lights??? In YOUR car?? say it aint so............ jh

Whispaz
08-10-2008, 10:43 PM
i like the blue but i get bored fairly quickly with things. i'm on my 3rd trunk enclosure, 2nd in-dash, reupholstered the boxes 4 times, 2nd set of wheels, changed the color of the current wheels, resprayed my engine cover 3 times, changed the fabric on the door panels twice, looking to change the headliner again.

but yea, PINK! lol
i really want pink-chrome Jlines but they're waaaay too much. "It's what makes up different that brings us together."
haha, i love that commercial

DJ_FroZone
08-10-2008, 10:46 PM
dear god jim noooo

lvbitwiz
08-10-2008, 11:06 PM
i like the blue but i get bored fairly quickly with things. i'm on my 3rd trunk enclosure, 2nd in-dash, reupholstered the boxes 4 times, 2nd set of wheels, changed the color of the current wheels, resprayed my engine cover 3 times, changed the fabric on the door panels twice, looking to change the headliner again.

but yea, PINK! lol
i really want pink-chrome Jlines but they're waaaay too much. "It's what makes up different that brings us together."
haha, i love that commercial

I feel ya, 3 trunks, 2 headliners, 2 door panels, countless rewires and three gauge faces (and two sets of needles)

you want pink, go for it (as long as your wife says it's ok)

jimmbomb
08-11-2008, 12:19 AM
ok ok ya got me convinced that change as much as you want!.. As long as you aint a stranger to changing things...... I got a set of wheels & tyres to swap ya.... I want to go with some 19's chrome or polished alums... swap ya my 18 black w/ machined lips Motegi's..... jh

xseveredveganx
09-16-2008, 08:23 AM
Bump this back up so people know how to do it...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/xseveredveganx/100_0407.jpg

DREWxB08
09-17-2008, 03:55 AM
Question


Can i replace my gauge face and keep the stock color bulb set-up??

xseveredveganx
09-17-2008, 04:11 AM
Question


Can i replace my gauge face and keep the stock color bulb set-up??

Oh yeah. The OEM LED color is the amber. If you replace your gauge face, it'll still be amber! :D

miketf1
09-17-2008, 04:12 AM
yes

damn you xseverdxveganx! beat me too it!

DREWxB08
09-17-2008, 04:28 AM
Question


Can i replace my gauge face and keep the stock color bulb set-up??

Oh yeah. The OEM LED color is the amber. If you replace your gauge face, it'll still be amber! :D



Thanks !!!!!



I wanna go with LEDmod.com all white gauge face but just wanted to make sure it will def work and still look stok but now with a White FACE!!!!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b284/seanyiya/Gauge%20Face/Scion%20xB2/Photo/ScionxB2-Style06-2.jpg


Thanks again !!!!

DREWxB08
09-17-2008, 04:29 AM
yes

damn you xseverdxveganx! beat me too it!


LOL

Thanks for answering also.!!!

xseveredveganx
09-17-2008, 04:34 AM
LEDMOD's gauge face is really nice. I'm really thinking about opting for his.

But I like having boobs in my gauges... :D

lvbitwiz
09-17-2008, 10:59 PM
LEDMOD's gauge face is really nice. I'm really thinking about opting for his.

But I like having boobs in my gauges... :D

Tats and boobies :P

xseveredveganx
09-17-2008, 11:29 PM
LEDMOD's gauge face is really nice. I'm really thinking about opting for his.

But I like having boobs in my gauges... :D

Tats and boobies :P
And as soon as I get the $$$, sakura needles from Bob!!!

lvbitwiz
09-18-2008, 10:06 PM
LEDMOD's gauge face is really nice. I'm really thinking about opting for his.

But I like having boobs in my gauges... :D

Tats and boobies :P
And as soon as I get the $$$, sakura needles from Bob!!!

Send me a pic, I have an idea for a face

xseveredveganx
09-18-2008, 10:33 PM
Pic of what? Sakura's or boobs or my face or my gauge face? Or my face on my gauge face with sakuras and boobs?

spiderxB
07-23-2009, 12:31 AM
has anyone used the 800mcd or higher leds yet? How do they look? too bright? Any pics?

Danimal506
11-18-2009, 06:01 PM
does anyone know the size LED for the a/c controls?

ocotillo
11-18-2009, 06:29 PM
does anyone know the size LED for the a/c controls?

Try this:

http://scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110941&highlight=hvac+bulbs

and learn to use the search feature- it is quite useful.

LEDmod
12-10-2009, 07:30 PM
Pic of what? Sakura's or boobs or my face or my gauge face? Or my face on my gauge face with sakuras and boobs?
I can add those designs in to the gauge face..
Simple white face with pink sakura logo would look pretty good.. :icon_biggrin:

joshuabowman
07-04-2010, 08:53 PM
looks good keep up the great work