maybe i havent paid much attention but today while i was waxing i noticed how ____ty the paintjob is not the color but all the god damned orange peel w.t.f.? anyone else or is it just mine? maybe i can get it repainted? maybe clay bar it to smoothe it out? i'd hate to have to wet sand the whole car. cuz toyota doesn't know how to do a quality paint job? :evil:

maybe i havent paid much attention but today while i was waxing i noticed how ____ty the paintjob is not the color but all the god damned orange peel w.t.f.? anyone else or is it just mine? maybe i can get it repainted? maybe clay bar it to smoothe it out? i'd hate to have to wet sand the whole car. cuz toyota doesn't know how to do a quality paint job? :evil:

Clay bar only gets out grit/embedded stuff, not orange peal. You'll have to wetsand or get a new paintjob.

yeah, I think everyone's got the orange peel. I'm not sure I'd dare take sand paper to it, either. Pretty thin stuff.. BUT I know someone's paid a shop to sand and add some layers of clear to the stock paint job and you could see the diff. Even in pics. really made it look nice.

got any of those pics?

hmm, maybe I should pay more attention to my xB. I gotta take a look at it now.

Paint problems should be covered under warranty..am I correct?

i would assume but maybe that just their normal quality of paint?

That's just the normal quality of the paint. They gotta cut costs some where. It's not all too bad, you have to be really looking at it to notice it.

orange peel where? take some pics if you can.

That Bites.......

Are you refering to the paint at the bottom of the car, below doors, etc.? If so, that is not there because of a bad paint job or low quality paint. Toyota does that on all of their vehicles. THe paint in that area is actually very thick and hard. It is there to protect against rock chips etc. This is the area that usually gets hit hardest by road debris, rocks, sand, dirt, and other objects of destruction. Be glad it is there. Cherish it, love it, even kiss it(after it has been washed). If you are not talking about that area, and the paint is actually peeling or breaking, then that is different and you should get it fixed.

They are not talking about the rock gaurd stuff you find on other cars. My box has none of that stuff. He's talking about the overall finish of the paint, it comes from the spraying process. If the gun is not set right or the job is rushed this is what the finish looks like. And yes the only answer to correct the problem is to have the whole car sanded and resprayed with some QUALITY clearcoat. About 4 or 5 good coats would be good and then sand off 1 or 2 then buff to a show finish. IT SUCKS BUT SCION IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT! :twisted: :twisted:

He's talking about the finish, not the paint peeling.

http://www.generalpaint.biz/refinish/orange.html

Generally when cars are painted it does not come out smooth. It literally looks like the surface of an orange peel. It's very very subtle in the case of the xB. Most people don't even notice it.

subtle i think not anyone looking at it from closer than say 4 feet will see it. garbage. i wish i wouldda seen that. cuz it is ____in me off somethin fierce

Most all cars have orange peel from the factory. Some worse than others. Toyota isn't always known for it's qaulity on paint issues. It's not a warranty matter though - you're S.O.L. basically, unless you can show it's dramatically worse than 'acceptable'.

My black box has the orange peel really bad. I also didn't notice it until I washed it the first time.

Other people have noticed it on mine too!

Most all cars have orange peel from the factory. Some worse than others. Toyota isn't always known for it's qaulity on paint issues. It's not a warranty matter though - you're S.O.L. basically, unless you can show it's dramatically worse than 'acceptable'.
He's right. Mine has it also. Some have it bad and some you can't notice. Cars/Trucks used to not have it that bad but it's getting bad now-a-days. I had an01 Jag S-Type and it even had it too!
See you can tell it has a slight OP to it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/zerodogg17/Jag/IMG_0212.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/zerodogg17/Jag/IMG_0223.jpg

I have a friend who got his 04 Chevy Truck repainted by the dealership cause he complained about the orange peel. So there is something you can do it about.

I have a PW '05 but I don't have any OP - I wonder if it is more prevalent no the pigment colors??

I have a PW '05 but I don't have any OP - I wonder if it is more prevalent no the pigment colors??
May not be as noticeable, but I'm not sure.

The paint on my car seems fine. It has the peel down on the bottom but every Toyota does.

cant really notice it on my car unless i look really hard. :shock:

How much would 4 or 5 clearcoats cost? Is it more or less noticable on a black xB?

A few things.

Most cars come from the factory with a slight amount of orangepeel. It is actually the desired finish in most cases, as a little orange peel will reflect light better. Check out most Dodges, they seem to have the "worst" case from what I've seen.

Also, black is the hardest color to paint, and shows the imperfections easier than other colors.

If the orangepeel really bothers you, pay a body shop to wet sand and then buff out the clear.

I want to know what cars you guys have had that didn't have orange peel? I'm an amateur painter (yep I got a booth) and I have yet to see a car stock that didn't have orange peel. it's caused by applying too thin of a coat of paint at a time... the opposite (too much paint per coat) would cause runs. because they use robots in almost all car manufacturing, it's a fine balence between heavy orange peel, and lots of runs.

well neither my 81 bmw 320 had it nor my 87 supra or my 69 bug or my 1980 datsun 210 the lowliest of all nissans made back in 1980. the bmw had 1 small piece with op on it it was in the rear between tailights so . yeah never seen it b4.

well neither my 81 bmw 320 had it nor my 87 supra or my 69 bug or my 1980 datsun 210 the lowliest of all nissans made back in 1980. the bmw had 1 small piece with op on it it was in the rear between tailights so . yeah never seen it b4.

With how old those cars are, I would have to say that either they've been repainted at one time or another, or that they have had the orange peel worn down over the years by polishing. I think that it might be pore noticeable on some newer cars since they use more coats to make the paint thicker (the OEM paint is lead free now, which causes loads of problems down the line).

hmm . i dont know but i do know that none of my old cars had been repainted.