what do u think think its okay to cut 1 and half coil for the trd's??? i know the coils sit still too high??? any input......

It should NEVER be OK to cut the springs. Ever.

it is NEVER OK to cut springs!!!!!!! think a bit about your saftey and the saftey of your passengers and get some drop springs.... you can NEVER cut then even for one... for two, the spring rates will change, and your handeling is comproamised... you are asking for trouble....

these guys obvously never cut ther springs, me on the other hand have.. and i love it, so sorry to all who flame me..But as long as the springs don't taper like the rear ones on the gen1 then you should be just fine to cut them.. and for all those who say it is dangerous to cut your springs, your right, and wrong.. There is deff a good and a bad way to do it.. As long as don't cut to much off and ther equal on both sides..

i still disagree.. it's still NEVER okay to cut springs.

if your going to cut why not just take them out run it withot them lol no dont do that. Yea dont ever cut springs.

Sorry, never ok to do so. Springs have "memory" built in and that counts on the amount of coils as well as the rates, be they linear or progressive. Can it be done, sure. I can trim my fingernails with the blades of a lawnmower, doesn't make it "right" and/or safe.

ill just wait then thanxs everybody!!!! wait for the right springs..... :clap:

you can cut but remember...you can't uncut.

i wouldnt compare it to trimming my fingernails with a lawnmower blade lol.
I cut them on my volvo and ran it for 7 years no problems.
is it just as good as buying springs? NO
would i cut them ona car under warranty that i am financing? NO

if you are going to do it research it alot. and then research it more

just my two cents

Good way to bang up your shocks, struts and mounting points (bushings as well if present). For a $200 mod that can cause so much damage if done improperly just have a little patience. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.

PS. In NO WAY am I the poster child for patience, by the way!

i cut mines.. i know your not supposed to.. but I did it anyways.. the ride was ok.. i can see cuttign stock springs than your be in deep crap.

My gen 1 my springs were cut for over 3 years and i had no problems with it being cut.. No sagging no bouncing it road like a lowered car..

now im on bags.. i suppose thats not safe?

the only way make your a car a danger to others is up to the person behind the wheel.

Most people when they drop there car dont do it the right way anyways.. stock shocks are not made for drop srpings but most dont even change them out unless there into performance. most are just for the looks.

to me there no right and worng justhave to do it right the first time and do what it take to get that look. if there isnt the sping to get that drop you need or coil overs you do what you have to do.. either bag it or cut the springs

just cut 1 turn of the trd and youll still have the same ride quality of when its uncut.. trust me i drove with both cut and uncut and now differance .. and its safe..

example .. they say you should only go so such and such size of wheels.. with this offest.. who cares to get the agressive look you put the max on what fits.. custom off sets.. than you roll your fenders and what not to get that look..

i would say just cut it.. it been done for ages why only now people get really technical.

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I didn't want to be the first to say it and be a martyr of sorts. But he's right. I've driven cars with bags, cut coils, heated coils, etc.

But I'm not sure of buying the TRD's and cutting them. Might try cutting the stocks first.

And eight08's right, people have been doing it FOREVER. Hot rodders have been doing it since they first built a car. Lowrider's have been doing it forever as well (even though this is a totally different thing).

This is just my opinion. I'm personally waiting for springs. This is my first new car with a warranty.

I'm happy with being patient for a few months.

Then why post this up, that's actually the logical and "right" thing to say?

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/posting.php?mode=quote&p=2805340

It's absolutely fine to cut springs. Any body who has cut them and drove on them will tel you.

There is a way to calculate your stock rate and what you would gain by cutting them. How many of you know what the exact spring rate and load is of their after market springs?

Are they good for the struts? No worse than cut springs of the same drop. Maybe the after market springs would be worse due to softer spring rates. You know, for passenger comfort.

To be able to calculate the exact spring for the exact weight of the car must be nice. To bad it's pretty likely that you maybe carrying different weight passengers, junk and even the weight of the fuel in the tank varies. Spring weights are a best guess and personal preference. Some people like the ride to be stiffer and others like a softer ride, that's all it comes down to.

Cut coils not being safe is a huge rumor circulated by those who want to sell springs.

I have run on cut coils before and many other things like welded diffs in daily drivers. I have also eyeballed quite a few ring and pinion installs. Never had trouble with any of those, as long as you know what you are doing.

The proper way to cut a coil is with a cut-off wheel or something similar. They can be even made flat on the ends by heating them up with a torch and bending them in the right spots.

the front and rear xb2 springs are pigtailed. if you cut them, they wont fit in the spring pockets right.

Please do NOT cut your springs.