Sorry ahead of time for the long post. I've been putting this plan together for about a month. I got 3 jobs so I'll have about a grand to put into to the car every month. Still that'll take me over a year to do everything I want. Please check it out and give your honest opinion. I'll answer the obvious one, "WHY WOULD YOU SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY ON A SCION?" This won't just be my car, it is an extension of myself... AND I'M WORTH A LOT!

Exterior
-manual Scion xB in Thunder Cloud Matalic; completely bare bones
-19x7.5 Konig Helium wheels
http://nlmotoring.com/images/Konig_Helium_Silver.jpg
-Yokohama Parada Spec 2 tires
https://www.tiresavings.com/tires/paradaspec2.jpg
-matching tint for front windows
-debadged
-red L.E.D. brake lights, silver coated amber blinkers, white L.E.D. reverse lights, and strobe lights above the reverse lights
-Helix taillights
http://www.scionlife.com/parts/images/parts/10034_scionxb.jpg
-Kenstyle ground effects
http://nlmotoring.com/images/xB_1_l.jpg
-OEM fog lights
http://www.scionlife.com/parts/images/parts/10040_0.dat.jpg

Performance
-Ground Fusion ground wires
-Bosch Platinum spark plugs
-DC header
http://www.scionlife.com/parts/images/parts/10084_dcsports_shc4401_01.jpg
-AEM C.A.I.
-Blitz supercharger
http://www.superchargersonline.com/images/productimages/blitz_scion.gif
-Hyper Voltage System
http://www.intakeone.com/images/Denso_Iridium/index_HVS_big.jpg
-Hotchkis springs
http://www.scionlife.com/parts/images/parts/10136_19412.jpg
-Perrin short shifter
http://www.scionlife.com/parts/images/parts/10203_ss02.jpg
-DC Sports front strut bar
http://www.importperformance.com/2/dc-sports-carbon-steel-strut-bar.jpg
-Blitz NUR-Spec axle-back exhaust
http://www.scionlife.com/parts/images/parts/10069_exnurspec2.jpg
-Perrin light weight crank pulley
http://store1.vividracing.com/catalog/images/prnxbpulley.jpg

Interior
-self-soldered instrument/climate/clock/control blue L.E.D.'s
-custom black leather
-Autometer a-pillar triple gauge pod
http://www.scionlife.com/parts/images/parts/10058_autometer_triple.jpg
-Autotechnic El-Guage
http://www.scionlife.com/parts/images/parts/10060_int_indiglo_xb2.jpg
-TRD shift light custom installed in dash
http://www.trdsparks.com/images/parts/00602-83400-005.jpg
-Randode blue cold cathode interior light kit under dash and front seats
http://www.randode.com/interior/cathode3.jpg
-StreetGlow El Series shift knob in blue
http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2002/546/l546ELGKNB-f_dmt.jpeg
-Matrix pedals
http://www.matrixracing.com/images/items-large/RazoRM35(Manual).jpg

Audio
-Dyno Mat
-Alpine CDA-9831
http://iweb.alpine-usa.com/img/asb/cda-9831.gif
-2 sets of JL Audio component speakers
http://www.jlaudio.com/evolution/images/EVO_ZR_MP.jpg
-JL Audio 12" W7 sub-woofer custom installed
http://www.jlaudio.com/subwoofers/images/enlarged/12W7.html
-JL Audio amplifiers
http://www.jlaudio.com/amps/images/AMP_MP04.jpg

OH YEAH! a REALLY GREAT security system and garage door locks!


(edited... it's getting bigger and better)

Sounds good to me. If you plan on those eyelids, don't forget you'll need to add the older JDM bB lights to your list since they won't work with the xB or the newer bB lights.

I think most of it sounds okay. The only things that I would like to see you leave off are the spoiler, helix tails, scorpion decal, and the street glow shifter. Everything else sounds groovy to me. You may want to check with someone about the JDM fogs though, I think I read somewhere that they require some alterations or something :? Just ask around and also I think that if you are going JL with the components and subs you should go with JL amps also. Just my thoughts. Good luck!

Hey thanks for the tip. I definately will try to find those.

Something like this could get me published in a magazine I hope. Fame and fortune rock! :twisted: :D :wink:

Helix tails are a maybe

What are some other tail light options? You failed to offer an alternative

I thought they would match the rims and I hate the stock pair

nice setup....... :D

In regards to the tails, I am actually diggin' the stockers but if you don't like them you can always paint them or have smoked. Now are these the tails you are talking about getting? http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=324756&highlight=helix+taillights#324756 IMO these suck! And the ones with the black housing look just as bad. They look like traffic lights. Anyway, I am just offering my opinion. I am not trying to be negative, just constructive. Good luck on all your mods.

Your plans are good, but I voted absolutely insane. Working three jobs to buy depreciating parts for a depreciating car is crazy. Don't get me wrong, I love modding and my car is a huge extension of myself, but you'll be working so much that you won't get to enjoy it. And trust me, there will always be a nicer car than yours out there. You can't beat everyone....especially large sponsoring companies.

Not to mention, that Greddy turbo kit has not been tested much and will likely require some tuning etc. with mild gains and questionable reliability. If you're stretched paying for these items you're gonna be screwed when they require work...

There are many already running xBs with similar mods, with a huge head start over you. That list won't get you published...

Sorry.

...And trust me, there will always be a nicer car than yours out there.
There are many already running xBs with similar mods, with a huge head start over you. That list won't get you published... Dude, that's harsh. I LOVE IT! :lol:

I appreciate all your posts everybody

The first four words of your post seem to contradict the rest of your post Mr. WagenMaster but I will accept what I think was your actual opinion with a little humilty. I think you are probably right about the publishing which is why I added "I hope." That is just a dream and a very common one among us I think. I quote JFK, "We do this not because it is easy but because it is hard." I think that forced induction would be a great mod for this car. Plus brakes... I forgot to mention brakes. I am now thinking a pair of red tail lights would look superb.

Which forced induction system gives the highest gains while having acceptable reliablity?

Do not get those rims!
Custom order some rims!
Your spending that much on other things and your going half ___ on rims.

You managed to pick out the second thing I wasn't sure about. Before, I was thinking the Axis Maglites were pretty tight... that's still not good enough for you probably. What is a high quality brand may I ask?

Maglites
http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/Axis/maglite.gif

These are pretty cool and a little more on the expensive side... very bling

http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Store_Detail.cfm?ID=131831&InfoID=2505&ShowLarge=True

double post

I appreciate all your posts everybody

The first four words of your post seem to contradict the rest of your post Mr. WagenMaster but I will accept what I think was your actual opinion with a little humilty. I think you are probably right about the publishing which is why I added "I hope." That is just a dream and a very common one among us I think. I quote JFK, "We do this not because it is easy but because it is hard." I think that forced induction would be a great mod for this car. Plus brakes... I forgot to mention brakes. I am now thinking a pair of red tail lights would look superb.

Which forced induction system gives the highest gains while having acceptable reliablity?

I guess it did contradict. What I meant is that would be a sweet looking xB with those listed mods.

Dyamnn! Hope and Dreams boy, Hope and Dreams. Anyway, their was one little thing I think you missed or I may have overlooked, but you're gonna need a S-AFC or eManage Fuel management which tacks on another $300 to your price tag. You're gonna need this, because the originaly Greddy kit was made for JDM bB and their high octane gas. The official US release hasn't come out yet, and nobody's sure if they will come out. Also I don't know if you noticed but the Greddy turbo kit from HopUp Racing includes the Greddy intercooler. It'll be cheaper to buy it that way rather than buy them seperately, especially from 2 different places. Just trying to save you $$$ :D

Speaking of which, what is your true intent of modifying this car? The reason I ask is because, if you total everything up, I think you'll have some fat pockets there that would allow you to expand your choices in car selection. I'm not saying the xB is a bad car, my wife loves it, and I love it too. But honestly if I were thinking of putting that much money into a car, I'd probably start think about getting a different car instead.

But I guess, if you are really set on spending that much, then you might want to add Fuzzy Dice to your list. hahaha J/K man, it's a good list. :lol:

Thanks, you are all very cool

Alright here's some different wheels to look at

-TSW Heaven 7 <- me likes
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Store_Detail.cfm?ID=110812&InfoID=2505&ShowLarge=True
-Tezzen Wheels Flexin
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Store_Detail.cfm?ID=119883&InfoID=2505&ShowLarge=True

So let me get this straight. The GReddy system is not well liked by most on this forum. Forgive me for my ignorance but I thought lack of testing didn't necessarily mean that the product isn't reliable. Still, it is probably best avoided. Are there any American turbo/superchager systems available that don't require a new fuel management system?

COME ON PEOPLE! I need ideas for forced induction systems and/or anything else I am not aware of. I've heard modern turbos don't have any noticable lag. I guess I could do a search but this post is going to be a handy resource for me in the future.

To: wgeee7478

I would rather have a modded expensive car over a stock expensive car. I think fuel economy and four doors with plenty of room is all I could ask for. Plus, most of the locals here seem to get confused and disgusted when I mention the box; too much peace makes people weak. I am a definate advocate of chaos!

"Excessive Compulsive"

No. (because that's just a typo)

"Obsessive Compulisive"

Maybe.

I'd say you're more obsessive than anything but anyone into cars of hobbies wants more more more.

I think you should do a few thing to the car and save the rest of your money. If your goal is to be in a magazine or a show winner, you need to bring more to the table other than "what rimz and turbo should I get"? You don't seem to have any idea as to how things will work together or if they will, you just want parts on the car just to have them from what I gather. Most of the parts you listed are the same things many other people have so if you want a nice XB, you'll have that but it wont be anything mind blowing in comparison.

"Excessive Compulsive"

No. (because that's just a typo)

Actually, I was trying to be funny. My girlfriend tells me I really shouldn't try because it's just sad. She likes how critical some of you're being; she is definately on your side. I understand what you mean by it being just a list. It's true that I don't have any idea how these parts will work together. You are sort of funny and very right. BUT who says I would stop at this list. I really love the xB and I'm planning on driving it until my kids start complaining of embarrassment (I'm a couple years away from even being married.) My plan is to get that list finished before I have to settle down. Then I can take my time and do some really cool custom work myself over a longer period. In the end I hope that it looks like something totally unlike an xB. I get what you're saying though.

Could I please get a little CONSTRUCTIVE (not DESTRUCTIVE) ideas that might be above and beyond what's mentioned above. Something cool that someone would do if they had the time/money?

"Excessive Compulsive"

No. (because that's just a typo)

Actually, I was trying to be funny. My girlfriend tells me I really shouldn't try because it's just sad. She likes how critical some of you're being; she is definately on your side. I understand what you mean by it being just a list. It's true that I don't have any idea how these parts will work together. You are sort of funny and very right. BUT who says I would stop at this list. I really love the xB and I'm planning on driving it until my kids start complaining of embarrassment (I'm a couple years away from even being married.) My plan is to get that list finished before I have to settle down. Then I can take my time and do some really cool custom work myself over a longer period. In the end I hope that it looks like something totally unlike an xB. I get what you're saying though.

Could I please get a little CONSTRUCTIVE (not DESTRUCTIVE) ideas that might be above and beyond what's mentioned above. Something cool that someone would do if they had the time/money?

Well, good luck with all this. If I was going to spend 1700 on some bling bling rims my wife would leave me. I'd rather have a leather couch if you ask me than to spend a ton of money on a car i drive an hour a day.

Here are some long term ideas:

-suicide rear doors
-black cherry to deep purple color shifting paint
-holographic real fire paint treatment
-air bag suspension
-hydrolics
-self-opening doors
-shaved door handles and hatch
-panorama roof
-incar vegetation for fresh O2 and air purifacation
-massaging driver and passenger seats
-black suade dash and roof
-plush carpet
-computer chauffeur
-mercedes and amg emblems j/k

It seems kind of lame to work 3 jobs so you can buy car parts. If I was you I'd just chill out, but if you're planning on keeping it forever I say do whatever.

I would start with the smaller, cheaper mods (under $300) because the cost of body kits, turbos, and leather is going to go down as more people buy the xB and start working on them. You can get a pretty noticable change if you swap the little things out (tail lights, grill, eyelids, spoiler, blue LEDs and cathodes, etc).

To save money, you can do the cathodes yourself.

Get creative!

:lol: Well, good luck with all this. If I was going to spend 1700 on some bling bling rims my wife would leave me. I'd rather have a leather couch if you ask me than to spend a ton of money on a car i drive an hour a day.

Yes, that's why I need to do it now before my girlfriend has any more power over me. Even though I love my girlfriend we aren't totally committed yet. We haven't even gone out for half a year yet. So I still have a little time to be young and stupid, YAY! Oh, and I have a leather couch.

Here's the first year of mods by month:
1. interior lighting, tail lights, fog lights, decal, cleared corners, debadging, floor matts, window tint, pedals, and shift knob
2. leather and security
3 & 4. wheels, tires, coil-overs, and strut bar
5 & 6. audio system
7. axle back exhaust, CAI, crank pulley, voltage stabilizer, ground wires, and spark plugs
8 & 9. ground effects, old JDM bB headlights, eye lids, grill, spoiler, and better clear coat
10, 11 & 12. forced induction, fuel management, a-pillar guages, shift light and brakes

I could forget the last 3 months... I'll find out when I get there.

:lol: Well, good luck with all this. If I was going to spend 1700 on some bling bling rims my wife would leave me. I'd rather have a leather couch if you ask me than to spend a ton of money on a car i drive an hour a day.

Yes, that's why I need to do it now before my girlfriend has any more power over me. Even though I love my girlfriend we aren't totally committed yet. We haven't even gone out for half a year yet. So I still have a little time to be young and stupid, YAY! Oh, and I have a leather couch.

Here's the first year of mods by month:
1. interior lighting, tail lights, fog lights, decal, cleared corners, debadging, floor matts, window tint, pedals, and shift knob
2. leather and security
3 & 4. wheels, tires, coil-overs, and strut bar
5 & 6. audio system
7. axle back exhaust, CAI, crank pulley, voltage stabilizer, ground wires, and spark plugs
8 & 9. ground effects, old JDM bB headlights, eye lids, grill, spoiler, and better clear coat
10, 11 & 12. forced induction, fuel management, a-pillar guages, shift light and brakes

I could forget the last 3 months... I'll find out when I get there.

:roll:

this post really isn't accomplishing what I thought it might... crash and burn, CRASH AND BURN! :evil:

Well if you are still set on going FI, then here are some more thoughts. This is purely going on the performance of the kit not the cost. The stafford fab turbo kit is complete with IC and fuel management too. PM AllBlackxB about it, he's been the guinea pig with nothing but great results. I'm thinking about getting it too. Otherwise you can go with the Blitz kit which is also complete and seems to be more widely used but doesn't seem to output as much as the turbo kit. Also, a while back I believe somebody said that they're were problems with the auto kit of the Blitz S/C, but I'm not sure if they've been resolved. Anyway, I like your style about being different from the rest of the crowd, so all the more power to ya. Show us some pics when you get your new box and also slowly transition it to what you want it to be. :D

You have awesome plans, I would just be a little more creative and do less with the bolt on stuff. I like where you're going with the Full Bloom Vizages kit (note, that's going to require heavy modification on the front bumper because it's made for gen 1 bB), but you need to do something to really set it off. How about something really custom one of a kind?

How are the gen 1 bB bumper and head lights different?

so do i need to screw some different holes in the bumper or what?

The gen 1 bB bumper is a few inches shorter. You're either going to have to heavily mod your kit to stretch it out or you're going to have to take your bumper bar out.

Your plans are good, but I voted absolutely insane. Working three jobs to buy depreciating parts for a depreciating car is crazy. Don't get me wrong, I love modding and my car is a huge extension of myself, but you'll be working so much that you won't get to enjoy it. And trust me, there will always be a nicer car than yours out there. You can't beat everyone....especially large sponsoring companies.

Not to mention, that Greddy turbo kit has not been tested much and will likely require some tuning etc. with mild gains and questionable reliability. If you're stretched paying for these items you're gonna be screwed when they require work...

There are many already running xBs with similar mods, with a huge head start over you. That list won't get you published...

Sorry.

Whoa, what a true statement.
I have piles of people around my "rig" at every gathering, all asking about $$$$. I am a completely private venture, but everyone thinks it is big bucks because I have vinly letters. My whole truck is super low bucks. If you havn't seen my rig, check the link below. I got the enire wheels setup for under $800, and all the other mods were super cheap! $100 floor mats, dask kit, guages were $140, some simple led's, $120 for rear bumper, 100 for painted bug guard, free to clear corners, 120 for billet grills, 180 for tails, 50 for all led bulbs, 200 for tint, 120 for armrest, 40 to paint brakes, 40 for strut tower brace, 30 for ground wires.

You add it up. It aint that spendy!!!