a local dealer is offering one kenwwod sub(link below), with a peak power of 1200 and a 2 channel amp(forgot brand but he said its worth about 150) with a 1400 watt peak, all the neccesary wires and converter and installation for $350. AM i getting a good deal and are these good sub and amp?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-bYiqDPAdDji/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?i=113W3011

If it includes the box, then yes a good deal.
Wiring alone is $70. Add in a box for $100 or so, plus the sub and amp and install.

Not bad for $350. Not top of the line, but will deffinetly give you bass.

theres a 1 year warranty on the amp and three month on the sub

If it includes the box, then yes a good deal.
Wiring alone is $70. Add in a box for $100 or so, plus the sub and amp and install.

Not bad for $350. Not top of the line, but will deffinetly give you bass.


yeah, it comes with a box, so will it be a high quality system for the price?

no. not a high quality system at all. its a good bang / buck factor but its not a high quality system

no. not a high quality system at all. its a good bang / buck factor but its not a high quality system

when i say high quality, i mean will i get some loud, clear bass? i know its not the best but will i be satisfied?

no. not a high quality system at all. its a good bang / buck factor but its not a high quality system

My thoughts exactly.

deffinetly not high quality. If you want high quality, you will be spending that on just the Sub. heck my wiring runs me close to $200.
But bang for buck, you cant beat that price.

no. not a high quality system at all. its a good bang / buck factor but its not a high quality system

when i say high quality, i mean will i get some loud, clear bass? i know its not the best but will i be satisfied?

probably not. Its going to be louder than stock but u won't be loud. I have a different sense of loud than most but anyway. Also I don't think it will be that clear. They're not great subs by anymeans but its a decent
starting setup

no. not a high quality system at all. its a good bang / buck factor but its not a high quality system

when i say high quality, i mean will i get some loud, clear bass? i know its not the best but will i be satisfied?

probably not. Its going to be louder than stock but u won't be loud. I have a different sense of loud than most but anyway. Also I don't think it will be that clear. They're not great subs by anymeans but its a decent
starting setup


what brand do you suggest for around that price?

you can't get a decent system without shelling out some decent cash.

you can't get a decent system without shelling out some decent cash.


how much would i have to spend?

what do u want... u said loud clean bass, how loud how clean and how much u want to spend. if u want 350 u can do it but you'll end up upgrading in the next 6 months

what do u want... u said loud clean bass, how loud how clean and how much u want to spend. if u want 350 u can do it but you'll end up upgrading in the next 6 months

so if im looking for high quality bass what will i have to spend?

$700+ for subs and amp + wiring

$700+ for subs and amp + wiring


how bout just good, not top of the line?

Do something like an Image Dynamics ID10 sub and give it 200-400W of RMS power and you'll be good. Shouldn't be more than $500.

ID10: http://www.imagedynamicsusa.com/products_page.php?id=id&type=sub

that isn't top of the line astros. top of the line is 2k + for a good sub. i'd recommend a 10 but that wont get the loud u want. you'd really be better off with a pair of 12's.

that isn't top of the line astros. top of the line is 2k + for a good sub. i'd recommend a 10 but that wont get the loud u want. you'd really be better off with a pair of 12's.

is a brand like pioneer or alpine any good?

meh......

i'm waiting for a pair of these

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=554

nov 15th baby

i use a lot of my trnk space, would 1 12" subwoofer privide enough power?

it can yes.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=35
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http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=47

in package builder thats under 400 bucks then you'll need wiring. that will sound great and hit pretty hard.

that isn't top of the line astros. top of the line is 2k + for a good sub. i'd recommend a 10 but that wont get the loud u want. you'd really be better off with a pair of 12's.

is a brand like pioneer or alpine any good?
Alpine and Pioneer aren't bad, but not awesome either. The less well known companies are generally better


1 12" will give you more bass and deeper bass than 1 10", but it'll need a bigger box too and possibly more power.


meh......

i'm waiting for a pair of these

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=554

nov 15th baby Wow...that's a much bigger sub than anything they currently offer

yep its going to put to shame a lot of things.

i've heard it and its amazing

Cool, the price is very reasonable as well. Generally a sub with an xmax like that costs around $600.

I don't think anyone really needs more than a single 12" sub. unless they want excessively loud bass.

meh it depends how much people want. for me 2 15" is a bit over for normal driving but i would go no less than 2 12's.

Other than volume...what does two quality 12s give you?

thats just it. i'm a bass head. i need lots of bass. so 2 12's would be my minimum for output unless i went with a big ___ ported 15 or something

it can yes.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=35
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http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=47

in package builder thats under 400 bucks then you'll need wiring. that will sound great and hit pretty hard.

do you know if this brand is available in stores? it got some nice reviews but id like to listen to it. have you heard them in person before?

yeah thats what i run and no they aren't in stores. they're only direct from their site. read around the site they have lots of good reviews.

how does rap music sound on them?

Rap bass is bad bass...as in it's loud boomy bass...almost any sub can play rap bass and make it sound decent...

thats just it. i'm a bass head. i need lots of bass. so 2 12's would be my minimum for output unless i went with a big butt ported 15 or something Well there is a point of too much bass. That point is when mids and highs start being lossed...I'm a bass head too...but I do like a balance

i think one sub is probably enough

Rap bass is bad bass...as in it's loud boomy bass...almost any sub can play rap bass and make it sound decent...

thats just it. i'm a bass head. i need lots of bass. so 2 12's would be my minimum for output unless i went with a big butt ported 15 or something Well there is a point of too much bass. That point is when mids and highs start being lossed...I'm a bass head too...but I do like a balance

yes and no. i'm quite particular and my front stage is stepped up quite a bit. in fact i'll be running a 3 way up front active up front next year to keep up with the 13av.2's. i'm a pretty big sq nut but like to go deaf lol. But to say any sub can play rap bass is the most retarded saying i've ever heard in my life. Just because its big and boomy doesn't mean it has to sound bad. in fact come and sit in my car and you'd be surprised how clean and crisp everything hits. In addition you can adjust your output through a bass knob (not a volume knob) if you think its too much. i just like to have extra potential

and yes for the average person astros one 12 is probably more than enough.

Rap bass is bad bass...as in it's loud boomy bass...almost any sub can play rap bass and make it sound decent...

thats just it. i'm a bass head. i need lots of bass. so 2 12's would be my minimum for output unless i went with a big butt ported 15 or something Well there is a point of too much bass. That point is when mids and highs start being lossed...I'm a bass head too...but I do like a balance

yes and no. i'm quite particular and my front stage is stepped up quite a bit. in fact i'll be running a 3 way up front active up front next year to keep up with the 13av.2's. i'm a pretty big sq nut but like to go deaf lol. But to say any sub can play rap bass is the most retarded saying i've ever heard in my life. Just because its big and boomy doesn't mean it has to sound bad. in fact come and sit in my car and you'd be surprised how clean and crisp everything hits. In addition you can adjust your output through a bass knob (not a volume knob) if you think its too much. i just like to have extra potential

and yes for the average person astros one 12 is probably more than enough.


You might have convinced me to get the ed sub and amp, how much did wiring cost you?

depends what u need less than 100 though

im kinda late in this thread.. but im running the eD 13kv.3 in my car with an alpine pushing 400w @ 4ohms... i listen to alot of hip hop and it hits very well :). i got the amp for 200 on sale and the sub+box cost about 140, then wiring was like 50.. so around 400 for a really good sound system.

It takes a good driver to be able to play tight bass. Rap bass is not tight...so it doesn't require an awesome sub to play the bass line in most rap songs.

Throw on some metal songs however and it becomes very apparent that it takes a high quality driver to play the bass track.

So no, what I said wasn't retarded...it makes perfect sense.

I've made a pair of $6000 B&W speakers being powered by McIntosh amps sound muddy with a few metal songs I listen to. I've never made a good speaker sound muddy with a rap song...they're simply too easy for the speakers to play