so im goin to school now for automotive. im thinkin about building my car as far as teh suspension and braking systems go because thats what im studying right now in classes. and i can do all the installs myself with the help of classmates and the instructor, and the hole time ill get a grade for it

so far i was thinkin:

Hotchkis sways (duh haha)

Coilovers (idk what kind right now, i was thinkin either H&R or Ksports because i heard the handling is good and ride comfort doesnt shatter your teeth. remember my gf will be in the car a lot with me and i dont want her to complain someone jump in and give their opinion and reaons behind it please)

No strut bars because i dont belive they do enough to justify me spending money on them for just looks, i've had plenty in the past and i only ended up selling them and losing a lot of money on them.

any more recomendations for suspension? feel free to chime in.

now for brakes:

Stoptech or Ingalls SS brake lines? (im asking the public)

Stoptech or Powerslot Slotted Rotors? (again asking public)

New Dezod Pads,

High Performance Brake Fluid (what brand and suggestions?)

id say about 99% of this stuff will be purcased from Dezod.com because well to be honest im obsessed with them haha. best customer service and they are always there to answer questions.

And now TIRES:

i know im getting winter wheels/tires next month but what should i look for as far as winter wheel packages go? i've never baught winter tires before and i want somethin that will last a couple winters.

and im going to be sending my stock wheels out to get a custom coating on them and im gonna need some sick tires to put on once winter goes away but i want to get them now before winter while i have money hahah. so any suggestions would be taken accounted for.

i know i've said i was trading in the tC blah blah, but truth be told it wouldnt be cost effective for me so im gonna stick it out and pay it off. i wont get as much $$ for it as i would like to for trade in and i dont think anyone would want to buy it

but for anyone that has an ounce of brains in this field POST AWAY! im open to suggestions and opinions (for once haha)

just please not smart a$$ comments or "just buy another car" because if you say that ill just look at my computer and laugh and call you a dumba$$ cus you cant read :D kthanxbye.

 

I don't need to mention which coilovers I think you should go with , but I will highly recommend taking a look at the H&R rear sway (24mm) whatever adjustable coilovers you choose, and especially if you go with the H&R coilovers as they are designed to work as a unit. The stock front sway bar is fine for track use and auto-x if you are not having to compensate for a overly thick rear sway bar like the Hotchkis.

Why not Goodridge? They are found on more high performance and racing cars than StopTech or Ingalls combined.

Stopech/Centric without question. Powerslot cuts their slots to the edges of the rotor which increases their potential for cracking over time, especially in cold environments.

Fantastic street performance pads (if bedded in properly).

Motul RBF600, or Ate Super Blue or TYPE 200 (same fluid properties minus the cool blue dye). Motul has slightly higher boiling points (Dry=593 vs. 536 for the Ate fluids), but honestly, you'll never find out what the difference is.

 

your the man!

Could you go into a little more detail about Goodridge. i've never heard of them before.

also i was thinking hotchkis because i would be able to do the install myself at class, due to the fact that i think we are dropping subframes to get to suspension components there anyways so i thought i would kil two birds with one stone. but if the H&R stuff was meant to work together as a solid unit i might consider that

thans for your info. and i think Paul from Dezod told me about the Motul Brake fluid.

also 2fast, where do you recomend getting the coilovers and sway from? and do the coilovers come with their own top pillowmounts or do i have to use the stock top mounts, im trying to stay away from using the stock top mounts because i think that coillovers look cooler when you can see the top mounts when you pop the hood

 

bump the more opinions the better!

 

Thanks, you've helped me in the past and I thought i would return the favor.

Goodridge is one of those companies you don't hear much about, but they are everywhere. They are an OEM manufacturer of brake lines, and their SS brake lines are extremely popular in all the top forms of auto racing (F1, NASCAR, Super GT, DTM, etc). Also, their lines tend to less expensive than StopTech. I got mine from the Tire Rack.

Obviously, H&R did extensive testing when designing the rear sway with the coilovers, however, H&R coilovers work well with Hotchkis, but having a thicker front sway bar prevents the coilovers from working as well as intended.

With all due respect and apoligies to Paul and the great folks at Dezod, I recommend buying them from AllSprings.com as they are a direct H&R distributor. You can get them through Dezod, but unless they are willing to match the price and not make any money on the deal, AllSprings will be the best option.

They do not come with upper mounts and reuse the stock mounts. I can get put you touch with a company that carries them, but they cost way too much for just looks.

 

thanks i appreciate it.

cool ill look into them

thats a good point, i think it would be better to get somethin that was made to work with each other

well obviously ill talk to Paul first and most likely ill go with them but just incase could you link me to AllSprings site? also do they carry the sway? i dont think dezod does, hte only sway i saw on their site was the Progress. also how many settings does the H&R sway come with?

yea hook me up, how much do the top mounts go for? and do they provide any benifit over using the stop top mounts?

 

www.allsprings.com They carry the full H&R catalog, including the sway bar; I'm sure Dezod can get one for you if you wish. It's 24mm thick, and it doesn't have any adjustments, but honestly, how many people adjust their rear sway bars to anything other than the stiffest setting?

The obvious benefit is greater camber/caster adjustability, but they also improve steering response. I'll have to PM you next week with the pricing.

 

awesome thanks man.

 

bump for some more opinions

 

i just checked allspring.com and H&R coilovers are on back order

 

^^ Bummer, that means H&R has none in the U.S. More than likely they are already on their way from Germany or sitting on a dock on the Puget Sound.

 

Hey man! This isn't really an opinion but you're going the same route I did with my suspension (I have the TRD springs, struts/shocks, and sways) I've installed and aligned my TC at my school a couple of times. Great experience and an awesome money saver! lol

BTW, I'm also in a brakes/suspension course at the moment and I'm going for my A.S.E's in brakes and suspension/steering systems in a few weeks

 

nice good luck man! :D

 

Thanks! I appreciate it! BTW I went through and read more of the post (which I should have done before lol) And just wanted to comment on this "high-performance" brake fluid. Bottom line - brake fluid is brake fluid. Your not going to physically feel a difference. The higher-performance stuff I believe is more for track use because of a higher boiling point, so less chance of brake fade during heavy applications.

 

hmmm... ill ask my instructer about that tomorrow in my brake lab

 

ok 2fast as you can see in my profile you have pursuaded me towards H&R :D thanks for hte help i hope they are what they sound :D

(check out the rim/tire section of profile too, i hope those should help with handling )

 

^^ Congrats! You'll be very happy with your suspension setup. And yes, those tires and wheels should help. :D

 

thanks man, you've been a ton of help

 

StopTech SS brake lines and StopTech Rotors FTW!

As far as brake pads, i'd wait a lil longer until StopTech releases their line of pads.

 

thanks king, im gonna stick with the Dezod pads tho, they are more then enough for what i need, plus i love the bite they have and they are fairly clean, i dont get much brake dust with them. how would the ST pads compare with Dezod. ill probably hold of on the brakes for a while, i dont really ned to replace stock yet, reason why im doin the suspension, wheels, tires is cus tires are almsot bald, and struts are gone. but im likin the ST lines and rotors idea i was leaning towards them anyways.