View Full Version : why buy turbo or superchargers


explode13
10-30-2004, 03:40 AM
i have a 04 scion it was when i dyno it at 98hp 96 lbs of torque i added a dc headers jdm exhaust 2.25 piping ported thorthle body . i dyno it again and i have 133hp and 130 lbs of torque when i shoot nitrous it goes to 198 hp and 195lbs of torque stock clutch why buy a turbo when it takes you to 144 hp that sucks and i just made some mods next is portandpolish cnc and 5 angle valve job and milling the head .020 with pistons and conrods i should be at 250s ? ohhh yeah im building my own intake manifold i will build in a couple of weeks question hit me up

will
10-30-2004, 06:57 AM
i have no issue w/ people spending their own money for mods but why buy a scion for power/speed to begin with.

firesquare
10-30-2004, 11:51 AM
if that isn't a sleeper than i don't know what is

hope you reach your goals (300HP ALL MOTOR) :twisted: :twisted:

glamdrig2000
10-30-2004, 03:20 PM
hmmmm 198hm and 195 torque? please fill us in on the internals.....


i have a 04 scion it was when i dyno it at 98hp 96 lbs of torque i added a dc headers jdm exhaust 2.25 piping ported thorthle body . i dyno it again and i have 133hp and 130 lbs of torque when i shoot nitrous it goes to 198 hp and 195lbs of torque stock clutch why buy a turbo when it takes you to 144 hp that sucks and i just made some mods next is portandpolish cnc and 5 angle valve job and milling the head .020 with pistons and conrods i should be at 250s ? ohhh yeah im building my own intake manifold i will build in a couple of weeks question hit me up

Sprockett
10-30-2004, 06:07 PM
Did you buy the ported throttle body, or did you just have it done? Maybe I'm an idiot...is porting kind of the same as boring....like shaving a little off of the inside to increase the diameter? If so, how much did you take off? 130hp is EXACTLY what would make me happy with this car.

empleh
10-30-2004, 06:16 PM
40 hp from a header, exhaust, and throttle body, and one post....hmmmmm. i'll believe that when i see it.

TOAST3R
10-30-2004, 06:18 PM
40 hp from a header, exhaust, and throttle body, and one post....hmmmmm. i'll believe that when i see it.

ya me too

05_camo_boxb
10-30-2004, 06:20 PM
hhhuuuummmm you sure its not around 110 hp...i wanna see proof as well ..130 would be good power....

Sprockett
10-30-2004, 06:42 PM
maybe he means engine hp?

empleh
10-30-2004, 06:55 PM
even so, not from those mods...that would be 22 hp......those mods probably make somewhere closer to 8hp.....

glamdrig2000
10-30-2004, 08:06 PM
im gonna raise the B.S flag because 1. the engine could not handle that power with stock internals ( the rod is no thicker than your ring finger) and 2. those minor mods can not bring the engine to 133 hp. even if 198 is possible with your supposed nitrous shot, your stock clutch would turn to gravy with a sudden nitrous burst. EL proto already fried their stock clutch producing power levels far BELOW your claimed power. proof is required...

Whocares05050
10-30-2004, 08:09 PM
OUCH! Hey i guess truth hurts

Sprockett
10-30-2004, 09:48 PM
damn...I was fooled... :( Guess I'll just have to drive the Integra when I want some pep.

Back_In_Black_xA
10-31-2004, 09:47 PM
I bought my Scion for a daily driver and perhaps to fix up so it handles well and looks nice. If I wanted a fast car I would buy an F-body. Personally making a Scion fast is a waste of money, it would cost as much as a whole car to get even enough power to make them probably be as fast as an F-body would be stock. Certain cars are good at certain things, and not so much at other things, its just a fact. The only FWD import I would spend any time fixing up would be a Honda because there is so many parts and so much stuff you can do with them and actually get good results for not that much cash.

Roque
11-01-2004, 04:15 PM
I bought my Scion for a daily driver and perhaps to fix up so it handles well and looks nice. If I wanted a fast car I would buy an F-body. Personally making a Scion fast is a waste of money, it would cost as much as a whole car to get even enough power to make them probably be as fast as an F-body would be stock. Certain cars are good at certain things, and not so much at other things, its just a fact. The only FWD import I would spend any time fixing up would be a Honda because there is so many parts and so much stuff you can do with them and actually get good results for not that much cash.

I'm in agreement... I got a Scion to stand out from the pack of commuter cars out there and for the price. I plan on doing a little ricing of my own, but only for my own satisfaction and not any serious performance boost. A CAI for midly stronger engine sound and/or a better air/oil filter, maybe even undercar LEDs or neons, a decal, maybe a decent rear wing if I can find one that fits a hatchback.

But all that other jazz... an uber exhaust, throttle porting, NOS... that's all just too much for my tastes. Kudos for the serious engine tuners, but I want my unique xA to have just enough uniqueness without creating situations that'll void my warranty. Between top speed and a tight budget, I'll stick to my budget and make decisions accordingly.

Now, if this were the '86 Celica I'm dreaming about... I'd mod that baby out just so I could live up to the Fujiwara Tofu Shop sticker that'd be on the side. XD

empleh
11-01-2004, 06:23 PM
Now, if this were the '86 Celica I'm dreaming about... I'd mod that baby out just so I could live up to the Fujiwara Tofu Shop sticker that'd be on the side. XD

takumi drives an ae86 corolla.....not a celica....just in case thats what you meant...if not them i'm an ___ :P

dgHotLava
11-01-2004, 06:30 PM
he's a one post wonder....

i'll be the first to call BS on his claims...
those numbers are way off...

glamdrig2000
11-01-2004, 06:38 PM
he's a one post wonder....

i'll be the first to call BS on his claims...
those numbers are way off...


ehhe sorry, I already beat ya :wink:

dgHotLava
11-01-2004, 11:13 PM
he's a one post wonder....

i'll be the first to call BS on his claims...
those numbers are way off...


ehhe sorry, I already beat ya :wink:

yeah, i conceed. (it was a long thread with too much BS)
but he still is a one post wonder...

showpaojoe
11-02-2004, 04:44 AM
NOT POSSIBLE

When Ryan dynoed his car he atleast had I/H/E and a 50shot of NOS and made like 145whp



Or how about 182whp with about $3500 spent on engine mods alone

full head job
custom intake manifold into 70mm TB
re-mapped corolla injectors
3sgte stock pistons
2.25 straight piping w/ no cat/resinator
DC header
TOMS flywheel
aem cai
apexi safc-II
NOS dry nitrous kit
Spec Racing stg.II Clutch

showpaojoe
11-02-2004, 04:47 AM
and this fool musta shot atleast 80 to go from 133 to 198 or he's dumb enough to think that if you shoot 50...you get 50whp

NOT POSSIBLE

asirvr4
11-02-2004, 11:47 PM
how a 3sgte stock piston will fit ? porting the block?? ha haa

showpaojoe
11-03-2004, 07:07 AM
how bout you try ripping the block apart yourself???????ha haa

or how bout you buy one of the two 1nzfe's I have laying around?????ha haa

or maybe you can show everyone all the wonderful one off things you have done to your engine??????ha haa

HA HAA...
HA HAA...
HA HAA...

you're as useful as the guy who made this thread. ha haa

explode13
02-16-2005, 02:22 AM
yes i know the people at el proto and the sad thing is when they where at the pomona speed way they ran a measely 16 quarter mile lol all the work on the turbo to be that fast . if you want to see my results you have tyo come to the races at ontario , dyno runs where rounded off if you think my internals cant handle the power man you need to go to school learn about metal orgy and the heat and friction you need to brake bend and melt youre material . i cnc ported my heads already , milled the head , 5 angle valve job and microploished the crank , conrods are done , and copyied the celica gts pistons for my own . if you dont believe me come to the raqces youll see my sleeper i make my own parts you guys pay for youre ____ and i was the designer for the first dc headers before they sold the company to aem.

explode13
02-16-2005, 02:25 AM
and this fool musta shot atleast 80 to go from 133 to 198 or he's dumb enough to think that if you shoot 50...you get 50whp

NOT POSSIBLEread on how nitrous works smart guy youre power depends on what kind of fuel you run and im running wet system

explode13
02-16-2005, 02:26 AM
how bout you try ripping the block apart yourself???????ha haa

or how bout you buy one of the two 1nzfe's I have laying around?????ha haa

or maybe you can show everyone all the wonderful one off things you have done to your engine??????ha haa

HA HAA...
HA HAA...
HA HAA...

you're as useful as the guy who made this thread. ha haathe 1nzfe are echo engines and i do have 5 laying around they sell for 300 dollars at the salvaged yards

hotbox05
02-16-2005, 02:28 AM
Dude , you're funny , how about you justify your insanely incorrect claims made in your first post.

explode13
02-16-2005, 02:29 AM
ill race enybody to prove how quick my xa is

XBman
02-16-2005, 02:45 AM
ill race my box :)

crayonBOX
02-16-2005, 03:08 AM
i wont be stupid to spend money on a 1nzfe engine and instead get a car that supposed to be raced....

(sorry, but racing to prove yourself went out with 'fast and the furious')

~tesh

(which is still my fav comedy movie :D)

duey
02-16-2005, 04:01 AM
it's still slow

Rion
02-17-2005, 12:12 AM
40 hp from a header, exhaust, and throttle body, and one post....hmmmmm. i'll believe that when i see it.

Word.

I smell serious bullcrap. :doh:

scooter123
02-17-2005, 02:37 AM
“go to school learn about metal orgy”

I’d like to see the syllabus for that curriculum!

squareone
02-17-2005, 02:58 AM
i have a 04 scion it was when i dyno it at 98hp 96 lbs of torque i added a dc headers jdm exhaust 2.25 piping ported thorthle body . i dyno it again and i have 133hp and 130 lbs of torque when i shoot nitrous it goes to 198 hp and 195lbs of torque stock clutch why buy a turbo when it takes you to 144 hp that sucks and i just made some mods next is portandpolish cnc and 5 angle valve job and milling the head .020 with pistons and conrods i should be at 250s ? ohhh yeah im building my own intake manifold i will build in a couple of weeks question hit me up

Big time B.S. flag raised!!!!
:rofl: :rofl:
Thats almost as bad as that one guy who said he raced an rsx-tpye s in his box and beat it!!! :rofl: :rofl: You kids crack me up, keep up the entertainment... :rofl: :rofl: