View Full Version : Dear God, what have I done??


Al_Fredo
12-04-2007, 07:46 PM
Only had the car for about a week and look what I've done to it!

http://forwhippets.com/1.jpg
http://forwhippets.com/2.jpg

I've got 100 sq ft of dynamat extreme to install now. Any suggestions before I begin??
:nails:

XBFred
12-04-2007, 08:01 PM
extra padding under the front to help with road noise... one thing I wish I would have done more of.... doors are a serious pain in the butt.. I only did floor and front doors.... also recommend since you have gone this far, do the roof too

Al_Fredo
12-04-2007, 08:11 PM
Thought about doing the roof but am a little nervous about taking the headliner down. The pucker factor was high enough getting it to where you see it now.

AAG
12-04-2007, 08:12 PM
I plan to do this at some point as well. Any places xbfred that you recommend not to dynomat or is this stuff thin enough to where it wont interfere with "bulges" when the seats and carpet are reinstalled?

FlyinLow
12-04-2007, 08:14 PM
Nice work on gutting the interior! I would start with the rear hatch and cargo area (assuming that you are going to install a sub. Then the doors, front floor and as much as you can on the roof. I used Dynamat Xtreme in my gen 1 xB and it came out great!
You may want to get some material though...

Good luck!

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Al_Fredo
12-04-2007, 09:46 PM
Since I had all the panels off anyway I just installed my new tail lights. Took less than 5 minutes due to the already stripped down state of the car!
http://www.forwhippets.com/taillights.jpg

lil_will
12-04-2007, 09:49 PM
Did the same thing to my tC. I used about 180 sq ft. Don't worry about the headliner... that will not make to much of a difference. Good Luck!!

FlyinLow
12-04-2007, 09:54 PM
Nicely done!

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Al_Fredo
12-04-2007, 10:00 PM
Thanks. Not really sure how far 100 sq ft will go. Sounds like a lot. We'll see. Probably won't do the headliner for now. At this point I will say that if this is something that you are planning to do, don't be afraid. Everything came out relatively easily but ask me again after I put it all back together. My local stereo shop wanted $1000 for labor only to put in the Dynamat and install the stereo. The result of hering that is in the photos above.....

FlyinLow
12-04-2007, 10:05 PM
If you aren't going to do the roof for now, then I'd say go for it in this order:
Rear hatch
Cargo area
Front Doors
Front Floors and up the firewall
Rear Doors

Installation couldn't be easier. Clean each surface just before installation. Just make sure not to try to put on huge pieces all at once. Cut to fit, then lay on. After the first few pieces, you will fly through the rest. If it is warm outside when you do it, the stuff sticks like glue. It is awesome!

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Al_Fredo
12-04-2007, 10:14 PM
Sounds like a good plan. Will have more pics. tomorrow with the sound deadener in place.

FlyinLow
12-04-2007, 10:38 PM
I can't wait to see them.

Did you get yourself a good roller?

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lvbitwiz
12-04-2007, 11:51 PM
Did the same thing to my tC. I used about 180 sq ft. Don't worry about the headliner... that will not make to much of a difference. Good Luck!!

In the case of the gen2 it makes a huge difference it nearly drove me insane in the rain or a car wash. Post deadening it's *much* quieter. I'm sure in the tC it wouldn't have that much of an impact but there's alot less surface area.

Back to the topic..since you have it torn apart to that level, you may as well do the A,B and C pillars too, mind the airbag though.

As for the headliner, it's up to you, it's not that hard to remove.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n29/bitwiz/headliner001.jpg

xseveredveganx
12-05-2007, 12:45 AM
As soon as I get enough money together I will be doing everything as well.

I'm planning on doing the floor, the doors twice, and the roof twice. All within legal stanctions of car audio events.

miketf1
12-05-2007, 01:02 AM
Al_Fredo! before you cover everything up can you take a couple more pics? i want to super stealth a power inverter block but i havent figured out where to put it... more of the trunk and the rear seats if you can! :pray: :pray: :bow: :bow:

chadfo
12-05-2007, 01:06 AM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh, your car is naked!!!!

I definitely suggest doing the roof. It will make a huge difference in an XB. I did my gen 1 and the overall noise level dropped considerably. There's a lot of surface up there and little to no deadening.

rockthebeef
12-05-2007, 01:18 AM
Great job so far! This is somethng I'd love to do but it's hard to get the motivation for such a large project. It doesn't help that my garage is only wide enough for one car. I drive myself nuts trying to get any work done in there!

Please post your results. Do you think after a thorough deadening job that we'd be talking Lexus LS450 interior quietness?

uberspeed
12-05-2007, 02:05 AM
Wow. Great job indeed! You should take some rudimentary db readings pre deadening and post just to give an idea.

CIONIDE
12-05-2007, 02:12 AM
Too late for that! Maybe somebody else can who still has a stock xB with an interior.

XBFred
12-05-2007, 06:35 AM
Honestly I have up to 5 layers in some areas and a layer of ensolite.... the mat is really good, but honestly after doing it on my I would have done more ensolite or some kind of noise barrier.... the mat helps dampen against panel resonance, but something like ensolite or vertex barrier pad is needed to dampen road noise.... I would have done a couple more layers of ensolite or vertex..... I am working on a classic suburban in the near future and deadening will be huge budget item with either lots of vertex or ensolite and I am trying to find out what it would take to do an all neoprene interior


I plan to do this at some point as well. Any places xbfred that you

recommend not to dynomat or is this stuff thin enough to where it wont interfere with "bulges" when the seats and carpet are reinstalled?

Al_Fredo
12-05-2007, 11:52 AM
When doing the doors and hatch, should I worry about working the material inside the door and hatch frames and putting the dynamat on the interior side of the exterior sheetmatal or do you think that it is enough to just fully cover the door and hatch frames themselves?

john08xb
12-05-2007, 03:09 PM
Dang i live near you and have a whitexB also with the same share the road tag...

Anyways YES do the roof. If you havent had it in the rain then you wouldnt know but it is very loud.

FlyinLow
12-05-2007, 04:38 PM
Happy Birthday Al_Fredo!

JMHO, but I would definitely do the inside of the outer skins of the doors and hatch, do the interior panels (frames) too. Then tap the exterior from the outside. It will sound like you are hitting a plastic panel!

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XBFred
12-05-2007, 05:24 PM
yep, definitely want to get mat applied to the inside of the outer door skin, hard to do on the front doors though.... you will have to cut the mat into little pieces and work your hands in there.... my front doors are well done and I get great sound from them and no resonance....

BTW- I know dynamat extreme is thick, but I don't think 100sqft is going to cut it..... just the floor and front doors I used 120sqft of raamat... I like it because it is easy to work with, but one reason it is easier is that it is thinner, but I am not sure 100sqft will be enough

When doing the doors and hatch, should I worry about working the material inside the door and hatch frames and putting the dynamat on the interior side of the exterior sheetmatal or do you think that it is enough to just fully cover the door and hatch frames themselves?

Al_Fredo
12-05-2007, 07:41 PM
Well it doesn't look like the headliner is going to come down today. After doing all 4 doors and the hatch it looks like I should just have enough for the floor left. I did do both the door skins and frames and you guys were right it does sound very solid when you knock on the door panels. Thanks for all the good input and advice. Also, does anyone know what those beige cloth looking pads are that are placed periodically around the inside of the body panels???

lvbitwiz
12-05-2007, 11:57 PM
Well it doesn't look like the headliner is going to come down today. After doing all 4 doors and the hatch it looks like I should just have enough for the floor left. I did do both the door skins and frames and you guys were right it does sound very solid when you knock on the door panels. Thanks for all the good input and advice. Also, does anyone know what those beige cloth looking pads are that are placed periodically around the inside of the body panels???

That was a weak attempt by Scion to quiet things down a bit, just slap your mat over em.

grImesTeR
12-14-2007, 02:11 PM
please tell me when you had it all out, you put the driver's seat back in and hauled ___ around the block a couple o'times... lol... i wanna strip mine down, lower it and strap a turbo on it or put a V8 in it and punk people all day... don't mean to threadjack or anything, sorry bout that... props for all the hard work and dedication, good luck with the headliner and let us see the pics when ur done... it's gonna sound nice...!