so im sick of people saying im ruining michigans economy for buying my xb2.

where can i find some facts about the xb2 and where the parts are made?

i live in michigan, and everyone knows the big 3 are hanging on by their short hairs. i didnt buy my xb2 because i wanted people to loose their jobs, i bought it because i liked it lol.


thanks a bunch

aman

 

check the sticker, i'm pretty sure all scions are 100% japanese, they are assembled in "something hard to say and remember", Japan.

and don't feel bad, fords, chevys and dodges are all built in mexico and canada.

i remember working on my 95 explorer with my dad, and suddenly he goes "why the hell am i using METRIC tools on an american truck?"

 

lol yeah you paying 17k or so for a vehicle is killing jobs. umm you will get that from small minded people. fact is that the big 3 need a big smack on the head to realize that they themselves are killing the sales industry. if they made car or trucks like scion is where you can mod them without killing your warranty, more people would buy them. if they listen to the general public about wanting car that have better gas mileage. they might have better sales. yeah sure they have hybrids out now. but they design car with little or not though to what a customer wants.

gm made it big with the new caddie. but that thing is still a gas hog in terms. so till they learn to listen to what people want they will be very far behind in sales.

 

i dont think any of it is made in the US.

 

I really wanted to buy an American-made car but can't afford to waste my hard-earned money on junk like the Dodge Caliber or Chevy Cobalt when the XB is so much better and costs less. I considered the HHR but it fell short, the PT Crusier is so outdated and the Ford Focus is the best of the compact domestics but too small for my needs. If our domestic auto makers fail, it will be their fault alone.

 

The Big 3 are doing a fine job of keeping quality (production & design) low and prices high, thus forcing people to buy foreign. When I see the countless ads and commercials for the new Malibu, I wonder why they didn't put those millions of dollars into building something better? They're trying to drill it into everyones' heads that you can't ignore it, while it just looks average to me. Nothing stands out about it whatsoever. I also feel that they need to scrap complete lines of cars and start from scratch. Renaming the Ford 500 as the Taurus? Really? While I like some of the recent designs based on classics, it appears to me like a sign of desperation more than anything. Run out of ideas? Time to recycle...

 

Not 100% Japanese content.

The Pioneer head unit (base and premium) and speakers are CHINESE.

I'm not sure where my other TRD components are made, but I believe my CAI is USA made.

 

I know it's a been a long term problem but I believe the recent problems are increasingly related to rising fuel prices.

Japanese cars are known for having better fuel economy than American cars. American cars are getting better but the average is still low. Japanese cars have a much better dependability record. American cars have improved but not nearly enough.

With the price of fuel going up people will switch to cars that they believe will get better mileage. If the American cars match or beat Japanese cars in mileage, the dependability factor becomes predominant. Noone wants to have the aggravation and cost of repairing a car but it's exacerbated when they have to pay high fuel costs too. It all boils down to the bottom line. It may cost a little more to buy a Japanese car but the overall cost of ownership will be lower. There are exceptions to that.

 

aren't the scions made in the diahatsu factory in china or korea? i remember reading something like that somewhere... deff not made in the us though... if you want to buy american, i guess you could buy a john deere, but even then.... hard to find sick rims...

 

The "Big Three" auto manufactures design cars that handle like crap, and fall apart. Plus, as others have stated, they are becoming less American.

I used to be pro-American, but I got tired of being pro-maintenance and spending hours underneath my cars replacing the same parts that never last. To be pro-American, you have to buy a "luxury" car that falls apart slower, or the average that requires frequent alternator, starter, and other constant changes.

The "Big Three" are just getting the big smack they deserve. Many of their products are becoming known as defective crap, they need to perfect the design and manufacturing.

 

Open your front driver door and the sticker on the lower panel says assembled in japan (which is a good thing IMO). Alot of vehicles now days that are "imports" really aren't because they are built in the US/Canada/Mexico.

 

I have posted a rant about this before and will just summarize for this thread...

i have a 2004 hummer which has only 22k miles on it. and it is rusting like you can not imagine! I have -NEVER- driven it in snow/salt conditions and it's rusting!

after spending $65k on it, i decided i'm never buying american again. not only that, the sunroof motor died, the driver side door panel is like being pulled off when you try to close the door, among several other issues...

but the biggest thing is the rust. when i told the dealer about it and about all the people that posted pics online of their hummer rust problems, they simply said - #1, you're out of warranty and #2, no one else has complained about the rust.

so, not only did they take my $65k, they gave me **** to boot...? i see how it is.

i'm seriously never buying an american car ever again. for the amount i paid, and tons of other owners paid, you would think you get something "GOOD" - i didnt want perfect but just "GOOD" is all i asked for...

 

yeah, my mom's 96 camaro rs went through 3 automatic transmissions under warranty, almost got to 4, but gm gave us a nice settlement for it.

 

it sucks though that the people that work there are the ones who are suffering.

yeah i used to own a chevy blazer, by the time we had sold the car we probably could have gotten a new one after all the costs of repairs for stupid stuff.


aman

 

Another reason in addition to all the above negative remarks of the BIG 3 is the RESALE value of American cars SUCKS!! The Imports have a much higher RESALE value when ready to sell. Don't get me wrong, I'm very Pro American, but I've owned both American and Japanese vehicles and The Japanese vehicles hold up wayyyyyyyyyyy better than do the American Vehicles, sorry to say so.

 

Actually Ford has been Metric for a long, long time. GM is the only manufacture out there that still uses the American scale. The sad part, it's mixed with Metric, so you need 2 sets of tools to work on those cars.

 

I love my country, but not our cars..right now. Previous posts have pointed out a bunch of different reasons why american cars are inferior ranging from emphasis on bad fuel economy, to price/quality issues, etc.

IMHO This all points to the fact that they need a serious paradigm shift in order to compete at the same level as the foreign companies.

Myself, I've always thought it odd to go to a dealership knowing that they are going to try to rip you off, and without diligent negotiation and attention to added costs, they will. When I buy almost anything else from a legitimate retailer (as opposed to someting used from eBay, Craigslist or something), it has a more or less definite value on a any given day. However, I know I'm in the minority in preferring pure pricing. The lies and techniques we got at the Chevy dealership were so cliche and absurd, we actualy laughed about it later. Anecdotal, I know, but I still think it's something else that needs to be fixed.

 

Oh yeah, one more thing. At other dealers you tell them what you want and they tell you what they have that's close. If you want it fairly soon, or if you want options only part of certain trim levels, you might end up paying for options you don't really want or compromising on color or something.

w/ Scion, you tell them what you want and they put it together for you. Well, more or less...the world is an imperfect place.

I'll take the second option.

 

No that is bad information passed out by stupid magazines and online car sites that don't know what they are talking about.

The new Toyota bB is built in a (Toyota owned) Daihatsu plant in Japan. Not the xB and Rumion.

Check the build sticker in the window of a 08 xB. It says the xB is built at Toyota's Kanto Auto Works Iwate plant.
http://www.kanto-aw.co.jp/en/products/automotiver/

Might want to be careful with the John Deere reference too. lol
Brazil
Russia
China
No sign that they are importing any of these but how long can it be until that changes?

Bought my last GM product in 1981. Three transmissions, a catalytic converter and an engine burning a quart of oil every 500 miles in the first 17,000 miles made me swear I would never buy another GM product.
26 years later and it has never even been considered an option.

 

a side note, when you say the BIG 3 you better clarify since Toyota is now at the top.