This day 11/02/04 was the worst day of my life!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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The Scion KILLER!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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:shock: Holy $h!t man. I hope everyone is o.k. Cars can be replaced, lives can't

that bastard!- that sucks I saw a truck slam on its brakes today- smoke and everything smelled like ___, scared the ____ out of me, I hate trucks, they don't scare me, but the drivers arn't awake. sorry that this happened to you. I would have opened a can

:shock: I think semi trucks and full size suvs should have there own special road :x

I hope everyone is o.k. Cars can be replaced, lives can'tMy thoughts excactly. Hope you're OK.

I'd be in jail right now if I were you. I just hope nobody was hurt. I got hit the first month I had mine. BAd thing is, Tennessee didn't have Scions then so all my parts had to come from Cali. Only took 2 weeks though.

Keep the faith

I hope everybody's ok. From the looks of the picture, it's a good thing it didn't roll. :shock:

Man that sucks :evil: I hope you are ok and all involved in the xB.Please give us an update,at least you are still here to tell the tale,a car can be replaced,you cannot be.

sorry to see that...at least nobody was hurt...hopefully that truck driver will be slapped with a heavy ticket
and now the question we have all been waiting for......
will you be parting it out or fixing it or letting the insurance company have it?

hope that everyone is O.K.
as a fellow Hot Lava owner, my heart goes out to you and hope everything pans out for you.
on the positive side, maybe after the ins. kicks in, you can get a CF hatch and start modding your xB?
stay positive.

sad day :cry:

Wow! I am really sorry man! Hope you're ok.

Mike R.
rolex87

SHHHHHHH,
A moment of silence.......................... :cry:
I feel,that your lava days are over.
At least with that Larva.
Glad you are ok.

that IS a bad day....must have been a scary experience. but hope you're okay.

WOW!! I hope everybody's OK. That had to be really scary.

Take care of yourself,

Laura

that sucks bro! i hope you and any body that was with you is ok.

wow held up decent for bein hit by a semi .. man sorry. glad that you are ok. good luck man

Man really sorry about your box I hope everyone was ok. Looks like the box held up pretty good considering what hit you.

Not to get to off topic here - but where in AL did this happen??? I didn't think it rained anywhere in the state today - cold front wont finally get here for a few days (I'm obviously wrong).

well it looks like the box got rear ended right? so im a assuming the semi rear-ended you and you went off the road?

thats just horrible.
how could the trucker not see a bright orange box ???
glad you're ok, sorry 'bout the box.

Thank you all for all of your concerns of my well being!!!! I was the only one in the vehicle, thank God... I'm doing okay, just got home from the hospital at 3:30am, been there since about 5:00pm last night... Just a lot of stiffness and soreness..

Windowtint---- It rained up here in Birmingham.. The accident happened about 1 mile past University Blvd. on 65 South about 1 mile after me getting on the interstate to head to Montgomery...


UnFocused----Yes, the Tractor Trailer slammed into me from behind.. I had just got on the interstate and traffic started to slow down. I slowed down with the traffic and checked my rearview, natural reaction to see what is behind you, and saw the 18 wheeler coming up fast. So I veered over to the emergency lane, being that I was already in the far right lane of traffic, so the 18 wheeler would have enough braking room but the 18 wheeler came right behind me at the same timeinto the emergency lane, guess he had the same reflex. So while we were both still moving he slammed into the back of my Scion and the impact forced me off the interstate into the gully. And that was that..

Thanks again everyone for your concerns!!!!!!!!!!!!
L8R...

oh man lava lava your ride :cry: lava man came to bristol to show @ nopi and he is a die hard scion man he will be back soon i hope . glad to see your ok and see you @ a event soon.

Ok I did have to :) when I saw the last pick and you had SCION KILLER!!!! haha

Hey that sucks but I can sell you mine it's on e-bay

Sorry for your loss :cry: Is it repairable? If not...I'm interested in the rims :shock: :D

Damn that sucks hope you guys are allright.



1 down 2099 more to go! :lol: J/K :twisted:

damn man that sucks ___! wow it really did hold up pretty good for a semi!

Thanks for the concerns evryone.. I'm wating for the adjuster to go look at the vehicle to let me know if it's "Totaled out" or not.. IMO it is and the head body shop guy at Toyata says that is is as well. But I got to get a final ruling from the Insurance company... L8R..

:shock: Ouch!

Glad your not badly injured, I hope.
Sometimes these injuries can show up later.
So be careful about signing off on insurance until
you've had some time to see if your healing well.

I assume his insurance will pay all costs???
Sounds like you were being
a very responsible and defensive driver.

Best of luck getting repairs and a replacement xB. :!:

I almost got nailed by a double FedEx truck on 95 in the same situation. I hope you're doing well Mr.L! :(

With that type of semi, he probably lost sight of you for a moment...in a straight hood rig the driver cannot see someone less than 12-18 feet in front of them but obviously he was not paying attention to the traffic conditions ahead for the speed of travel.

I used to push 18 wheelers myself and drive home in a VW. :? I want to remind everyone especially in these little cars that we disappear from sight from these big rigs very easily because of the blind spots. The right front corner is the most dangerous spot and many people are clipped by trucks because of a misjudgement of the distance if they see you at all. "Watch out for the other driver"

That sucks man, I used to see you on 65 sometimes! Glad you are okay! Sent you a PM.

:shock: that sucks. glad to hear you are ok though. tough loss. :cry:

man hope evryone is ok... But i'm suprised that the box doesn't look alot worse. But i am glad that your box left its mark on that trucks bumper....... Especially after what happend to my friends box when he got rear ended by a honda at a stop light... Hope your ok.. you have whip lash right.... Hint

how are they gonna replace that hot lava? they only made so many of them =(

wow that sucks man but at least your all right...as of my count there are at least 5 other lavas that have been totaled...as a matter of fact I was talking to my sales man and he told me that all three lavas that his dealership sold had been in major accidents(mine included 4 days into having it....hopped a curb in the rain did 5 grand worth of suspension damage) and one had been totaled...but it is good to see that the box held up that well...about what speed was this all going...

~wC

Wheel---- Traffic was slowing at the time and I was doing about 45mph, but don't know how fast the truck was going... I had just started to slow down and when I checked my rearview he was coming up on me pretty fast...L8R..

Wheel---- Traffic was slowing at the time and I was doing about 45mph, but don't know how fast the truck was going... I had just started to slow down and when I checked my rearview he was coming up on me pretty fast...L8R..

You were smart to try to get out of the way. If I looked in my rearview and saw an 18 wheeler barreling down on me, I'd probably freeze with fear. Something similar nearly happened to me years ago in my Celica.

In order to turn left into my neighborhood, I have to slow to a near stop on a street that is one-way in both directions if there is traffic coming the other way. Usually people behind me just pass on the shoulder when they see my turn signal and brake lights. One time though, I was sitting waiting to turn as usual, and I glanced up into my mirror and I saw this Corolla headed right for me, not slowing or moving to pass at all.

All I could do was say "Oh sh*t." The people in my car were like "what?!" but no words would come out of my mouth. Then at the last possible second, the girl obviously looked up and saw me, then swerved right to avoid hitting me. Then she corrected left to stop from going into the woods off of the shoulder. She ended up spinning out and stopped facing me in the opposite lane. Lucky no one was coming down that side of the street to hit her.

Odd thing is that I knew the girl. She went to the same school as me. We all pulled over to the side of the road and she was so shaken up. It took like 10 minutes to calm her down and get her to stop shaking enough so she could drive home. I think she said that she had went to change the radio station or something and hadn't noticed me sitting there waiting to turn.

That was probably the scariest thing that ever happened to me. I guess I was luckier than you, but you were luckier than a lot of others. Glad you're ok. Do you plan to get another xB?

Kevin----Yeah I hope to get another xB...I hope to get my hands on another Lava :) ...But, I'm still waiting for the adjuster to look at it... Thanks... L8R..

Hey ,good to hear that you are ok.
Now to the point,WANNA SELL THE CAR. I am interested. I want it AS Is,gonna build something crazy.let me know

Make sure they pay for your rental car and a new XB . Dont let the fool off the hook. Tell them it was a limited edition and is not replacable. Unless you can find one on ebay. And make them pay pay pay.

In order to turn left into my neighborhood, I have to slow to a near stop on a street that is one-way in both directions

one-way ---- both directions :shock: :?: no wonder its a bad street.

see what the insurance does with you box. if you can part it out or sell it, poeple here might be interested.

Thank God you walked away from that nasty crash ......... Dude, I would SUE THE LIVING ____ OUT OF THAT TRUCKING COMPANY ........ Someone, including yourself could have been easily killed, that freakin stupid ___ trucker .......

So, the insurance company will naturally try and screw you over, but hold your ground !

You need to take it easy until your feeling better, they should indeed cover lost wages and the entire cost of the box ....

Damn Shame !

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Wheel---- Traffic was slowing at the time and I was doing about 45mph, but don't know how fast the truck was going... I had just started to slow down and when I checked my rearview he was coming up on me pretty fast...L8R..

You were smart to try to get out of the way. If I looked in my rearview and saw an 18 wheeler barreling down on me, I'd probably freeze with fear. Something similar nearly happened to me years ago in my Celica.

In order to turn left into my neighborhood, I have to slow to a near stop on a street that is one-way in both directions if there is traffic coming the other way. Usually people behind me just pass on the shoulder when they see my turn signal and brake lights. One time though, I was sitting waiting to turn as usual, and I glanced up into my mirror and I saw this Corolla headed right for me, not slowing or moving to pass at all.

All I could do was say "Oh sh*t." The people in my car were like "what?!" but no words would come out of my mouth. Then at the last possible second, the girl obviously looked up and saw me, then swerved right to avoid hitting me. Then she corrected left to stop from going into the woods off of the shoulder. She ended up spinning out and stopped facing me in the opposite lane. Lucky no one was coming down that side of the street to hit her.

Odd thing is that I knew the girl. She went to the same school as me. We all pulled over to the side of the road and she was so shaken up. It took like 10 minutes to calm her down and get her to stop shaking enough so she could drive home. I think she said that she had went to change the radio station or something and hadn't noticed me sitting there waiting to turn.

That was probably the scariest thing that ever happened to me. I guess I was luckier than you, but you were luckier than a lot of others. Glad you're ok. Do you plan to get another xB?

Towson U Girl Drivers :roll: jk jk

yes but most of them are oh so hott....

~wC

Thanks again everone for all of your concerns. As soon as I know something from the adjusters I'll let you all know on the status of the xB, whether I'll be able to part it out or if the Insurance guys are going to keep it...... L8R..

Sorry to see/read this. Hope you're better. Gluck...

Oh crap, here we go .... blame the trucker for everything, right? Im in an interesting spot here. I have a RS1, and drive a rig that looks very similar to the one that hit you ... a KW W900L. Mine is an extended frame ( meaning that the rear wheels sit 6 feet further back then a normal semi ), and is royal metallic purple in color. Chrome everywhere, the damn truck cost just over 90K. I haul pavers for a living now, and run with 50K#s of brick on my trailer. I make 3-4 runs a day, loging 300-400 miles a day, all local. Now that you know where im coming from, let me fill you guys in on a little secret.

BIG TRUCKS, NO MATTER WHAT THEY HAUL, NO MATTER IF THEY ARE LOADED OR EMPTY, CAN NOT STOP LIKE A CAR! You really cant appreciate how long it takes to stop one of these trucks unless you drive one. Driving my rig is much like driving my xB, minus the 13 speed tranny, and the fact EVERYTHING is on a scale 3 times that of the xB. With a 475 HP Cummins diesel under my hood, i can get up and go like there is no tomorrow. Until recently, the shear power of my truck scared me. I have never driven a truck with this much power, and with that comes a lot of respect. As a truck driver, i know that i have to respect the truck and its load. If i drive like an idiot, innocent people can and will get killed. This is not my mission in life. I too would like to have a family some day, but i also like the money i make by driving truck.

As a truck driver, i erge all of you to give us truck drivers a break. Dont shoot in front of us with little to no room. Dont stop suddenly to prove a point. STAY OUT OF OUR BLIND SPOTS. IF YOU CANT SEE ME IN MY MIRRORS, THEN I CANT SEE YOU! Just like me driving my rig, THINK! I wouldnt put you and your loved ones at risk, dont put yourselves there by driving like _______s.

BTW .. i speak for myself and all the other drivers out there who give a damn and drive like the lives of others depend on it. I know there are those out there that dont belong behind the wheel of a 40 ton truck. But dont let them ruin it for those of us who drive correctly. :wink:

CBSIMONSEZ-----First off ASSBAG, I never said anything bad about ALL truck drivers. Secondly, I just explained the facts and details of what happend in the case of MY accident not ALL accidents. So before you go on a rampage I do respect and give courtesy to all truckers on the roads. Hell I've got 4 relatives that drive big rigs. In my case clearly this was the truck drivers fault, but did I crawl out of my car and just start going off on the guy and throwing blows? NO i didn't.. After the police took our statements and the EMT's checked us both out I SHOOK THE MANS HAND and told him to drive safe home to his family. And by the way, THANKS for NOT asking if we were both okay.................SO ON THAT NOTE:::::::::::::::

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:shock: , I guess you are feeling better??!! Or the drugs are wearing off??!! :wink:

is everything going to turn out ok?? are you getting another box or fixing this one?

BoomBox---- Still waiting on the adjusters to let me know... They need to hurry up so if they do total it out I can start on looking for another one... L8R...

i'm glad your going to stick with the box still sorry again that this happened

Hell yeah I'm sticking with the box!!!!! I get so much good response at car shows to change to something else and the fact that I bought it because of its uniqueness.. Ya gotta love the box!!!!!

ohh I do love the box, i'm just glad that your not like the guy that crashed his xA and then said that it was the cars fault he hit a curb and its not safe.

one-way ---- both directions :shock: :?: no wonder its a bad street.

Whoops, maybe I should have worded that differently. I meant to say that there are two lanes, one for each travel direction. So if I'm turning, the traffic behind me can't pass in another lane, they have to slow down or try going around me on the shoulder.

Towson U Girl Drivers :roll: jk jk

Hehe. Actually it didn't happen at TU. I live in AA county, and commute to Towson. This was back when I was in high school anyway. I've seen some crazy stuff go on near school, though.

Coming up Charles street towards the beltway where you crest that big hill, I saw a girl from school in a Cavalier convertible slam into the back of a utility truck. She was probably going about 40 mph and I guess she just took her eyes off the road. The truck was in front of her and had almost come to a stop and she just kept going. By the time she realized what was happening and started braking, it was too late.

Then, another time there was a bad accident on Osler between Cross Campus Dr. and Stevenson Ln., near Unitas Stadium. The cops had to shut the street down. Everyone who was on the shuttle going over to the lots near the stadium had to get off and walk by the accident scene to get back to their cars. There was a Saturn that was completely totaled and there was blood all over the ground. Horrible sight.

Glad that ur ok. But on a good note your left taillight looks cool. :) Even though it is busted. What color xB are u gonna get next? U should wait for the RS 2.0 xB if u are gonna get another box.

damn after looking at the pics again, that must have been one hell of a ride :shock:

bBLover------ If they total it out, which I hope they do, I wanna try to get another Lava because I like it so much... I don't think I'll like the Yellow or Lime Green, which ever color they go with..I don't know for sure yet though.. The taillight was just factory clear but I see what your saying, it looks like a Euro after being busted.. Thanks for the concerns guys... L8R...

BoomBox--- Yeah it was a hell of a ride... All I could do was hold on and pray......

ok this may just be me playing monday morning quarterback...but why did u stop on the shoulder why not just keep driving...

~wC

Wheel See----- I didn't stop on the shoulder..... I had only slowed down with the traffic to about 40-45mph and saw the 18wheeler coming up behind me so I merged over into the shoulder as I was still moving.... I never stopped at all.... L8R...

oh got ya...yeah if I had seen it coming I just would have kept going down the shoulder...well actually I would have shat myself...


~wC

oh got ya...yeah if I had seen it coming I just would have kept going down the shoulder...well actually I would have shat myself...


~wC

Seriously!

Wow that sucks, I had almost the same thing happen to me in Atlanta. Except I did not move to the right. Lava Sandwich!! I would guess they will total it out. It is damn near impossible to fix a roofline that is crinkled.

Be careful with the insurance adjusters. Everything you say to them they will try to use to reduce their liability. If you have an injury, they may even try to interview you and whip out a tape recorder and record the conversation. DO NOT TALK TO THEM ABOUT YOUR INJURIES. If they ask you about your injuries, tell them to ask your doctor. If you are not back to 100% don't settle on the medical part without an attorney. I got hit pretty hard when I was about 23, they paid for the car, paid my 10K in med bills, paid for my attorney, gave me 8k in pain and suffering, and got me to sign off. My back has never been right since and I have to pay to go the doctor every time it goes out. I am now 37. Main thing is not to be in a hurry. They will try to get you to settle asap. They will not offer you a rental unless your car is being fixed. They try to squeeze you by leaving you without transportation. Borrow a car from someone and take your time and make sure you are fully compensated for your damages. If you are unsure about anything, get an attorney or talk to your states insurance commisioner.

Lavabox----- Thanks for the advice.... I got an attorney the day after the accident... I'm directing all my incoming calls from anyone asking ?'s about the accident to him... I hope to here from my adjuster sometime tomorrow.... Actually, I just noticed your in Atl... I just got home from there... I went over there today to a Toyota dealership off of Roswell to check out the Nopi xB, the one they did the audio install challenge on, that they have on ebay auction... Man, they have already scratched the paint up on the front bumper and the passenger front fender, that's a damn shame... Other than that it's a pretty good set up... Anyways, Thanks again... L8R...

Hell yeah, I woulda shat in my pants too. That is some scary shiz.

[quote="MrLavaLava"]CBSIMONSEZ-----First off ASSBAG, I never said anything bad about ALL truck drivers. Secondly, I just explained the facts and details of what happend in the case of MY accident not ALL accidents. So before you go on a rampage I do respect and give courtesy to all truckers on the roads. Hell I've got 4 relatives that drive big rigs. In my case clearly this was the truck drivers fault, but did I crawl out of my car and just start going off on the guy and throwing blows? NO i didn't.. After the police took our statements and the EMT's checked us both out I SHOOK THE MANS HAND and told him to drive safe home to his family. And by the way, THANKS for NOT asking if we were both okay.................SO ON THAT NOTE:::::::::::::::


Second of all ... my comment wasnt directed toward anyone specific. If anything i feel your pain for loosing the RS1 in the first place. Now, moving on, i want you to know that i was running late for our ScioNRG meet in NY. I just so happened to glance at my watch and see that i would be running behind. I realized after i had left the puter in a rush that i didnt vioce my concerns with you personally and the possible loss of the xB. For that i appolgize, and i hope i never have to expierence a wreck in my RS1 and have it totalled. But seeing as how you took my comment to heart, and have voiced your opinion as such, then so be it. FROM ONE ASSBAG TO ANOTHER.

CBSIMONSEZ--------
:lol: :lol: :lol: .... Like the last words.... Appology accepted.... Sorry for taking the comment so harsh in the first place. :oops: ...........I was just ____ed about my Lava.... I think they are going to consider it a total loss... L8R..

I would like to be an assbag too, please.

Remember trains? I miss trains.

I would like to be an assbag too, please.

Remember trains? I miss trains.
if you didn't miss trains, you might get hurt..

MrLavaLava, glad to hear that there were no serious injuries.

was wondering if you started to look for another lava??? (i am curious to hear how that goes)

dg.

dgHotLava------ Yes, I started the mad search the very next day after my accident... So far I've come across about 7 so far...Mine was an auto because that was all that was available when I bought mine but now I want a manual....2 out of the 7 are manuals...Still keeping my fingers crossed on whether or not the Insurance totals out mine...Thanks for the concerns.. I'll keep you updated... L8r...

I know you said that you will hear soon,please let me know I want to buy the car from you if you can sell it. WANNA BUY MY HOT LAVA?ITS ALREADY SET UP.

SEE YA
SCIONARA

SCIONRa---- You have a PM.............

SCIONRa---- You have a PM.............

Glad to hear your ok and that you walked away and no one else was hurt..

I know you havent heard yet. But if they total it are you going to keep it and part it out?

Let me know intrested in some stuff.

Thanks

Any news?

Totaled or not?

...So I veered over to the emergency lane, being that I was already in the far right lane of traffic, so the 18 wheeler would have enough braking room but the 18 wheeler came right behind me at the same time into the emergency lane, guess he had the same reflex...

Ohh man that had to be one scary moment. Looks like you took some good measures to avoid an accident, and that the trucker was negligent in not seeing the slowdown soon enough. Glad you came through okay.

Now...I have to state that I am miffed at all the responses earlier in the thread about the big bad truckers and how dangerous and irresponsible they are! This was before your post giving details, which means - in typical fashion - car drivers tending to assume that truckers are at fault in accidents.

I am a trucker. Like the majority of truckers, I do pay attention and drive safely, (in particular keeping a good safe open space between me and the cars ahead so that I have time to stop in an emergency - a very basic rule of safe driving for anyone, car or truck). I know there are a few bad apples in the trucking industry, but this doesn't mean that truckers in general are dangerous, in the same way that the few idiot car drivers I see every day don't lead me to assume all car drivers are stupid.

The responsibility for safety on the highways is to be shared by all drivers, and the guilt is to be reserved until all the facts are in. To me the quickness to blame truckers for problems on the road is a symptom suggesting that car drivers have no idea how to share the road and are not willing to admit that they themselves might have some bad driving habits.

I'm sorry, I don't intend to start an argument in here about the blame for accidents but I could not let those comments go unanswered.

[EDIT: I just now noticed that this is a four page thread but I only read the first page. So my statements apply only to the comments on the first page - prior to your comment giving details of how the accident happened.]

last i heard, Houseof Steel here on SL was selling ( or considering ) selling his RS1. He has a really nice paint job done. If your interested, drop him a line. I believe that he has under 2K miles on it too.

First of all, I'm glad to hear you are ok. How do u feel about the safety of the xB... since u have first hand experience?

On the subject of xB safety in crashes, Consumer's Union, (publishers of Consumer Reports magazine), have the xB listed as a "recommended" car, in part because of its excellent crash test results. I think this was in the April 2004 issue of the magazine.

dang man i feel sorry for ya that sux