Yesterday, while doing my interstate commute, Joe Suburbia's Dakota bounced his new step ladder over tailgate and onto the pavement. Well, at 65 mph it came sliding across 3 lanes at a 45 degree angle like a hockey puck. Headed right at me, I began to twitch the wheel madly to get out of its way and not encroach on the car about to pass me. Well, it was a real sphincter tightening experience but I made it. The manouver required some jerky, sweeping adjustments and if the tail end had its stock swaybar the car would have been too unforgiving and uncontrollable. Fortunately, all ended well.

This bar should be on the stock car, no doubt.

Where did you buy it from, and how much?

I think the cheapest place to buy it is ptuning.com with the scionlife coupon (check the sponsered sales section). It comes out to like 144 shipped or something...

Fubared neckbonenick's post...sorry.. here's the post before I fubared it.

Used the coupon code ($142.45 shipped) and got it here today and installed it. It is a very substantial bar. Bigger and heavier than my wildest dreams. Took me a little while to figure out how to install it because of the crapiest directions I have ever seen Typos, words missing, and one unhelpful picture but I managed. For those interested in this bar IMO it's worth the money. It corners very firm now. Pretty nice.
To those who get it and have a hard time like I did. Here's some pointers:

1. Jack up the back end of the car and remove the wheels
2. Get a couple phone books or somthing to prop up the other end of the sway bar as you thread the bolts on one side and then the other.
3. the bar is installed with curved arc side toward the front of the car.
4. the flag nuts that come with it go inside the hollow cavity and the bolt goes up trough it.

Here's a few pics.

http://lacolla.net/albums/ProgressSway/progresssw0162.sized.jpg
http://lacolla.net/albums/ProgressSway/progresssw0164.sized.jpg
http://lacolla.net/albums/ProgressSway/progresssw0167.sized.jpg
http://lacolla.net/albums/ProgressSway/progresssw0168.sized.jpg

THANKS Mike!

THANKS Mike!

buy me one too, brad :wink:

THANKS Mike!

buy me one too, brad :wink:

Only if I can claim you on my taxes! I gotta figure out how I can get one w/o the boss seeing it. I used my extra scratch to put a fence IFO my house. I'll send you my Hotchkis rear bar!

Looking at the pic's the Progress looks a little more beefey than the hotckins rear sway bar...

How I'm getting it Brad...

fyi, it looks exactly and installs exactly the same on the xA.

I bit of a pain to install if you've anly got one person, but installable. I installed it myself alone in about 15-20min. Included some cussing too. ; )

hey brad send yer hotchkis my way. help a broke man out. u knowu want to right?

fyi, it looks exactly and installs exactly the same on the xA.

I bit of a pain to install if you've anly got one person, but installable. I installed it myself alone in about 15-20min. Included some cussing too. ; )

Lee, doesn't all work on any car require some cussing? :wink:

fyi, it looks exactly and installs exactly the same on the xA.

I bit of a pain to install if you've anly got one person, but installable. I installed it myself alone in about 15-20min. Included some cussing too. ; )

Lee, doesn't all work on any car require some cussing? :wink:
Yes it does, and some occasional tool tossing too :twisted:

fyi, it looks exactly and installs exactly the same on the xA.

I bit of a pain to install if you've anly got one person, but installable. I installed it myself alone in about 15-20min. Included some cussing too. ; )

Lee, doesn't all work on any car require some cussing? :wink:
Yes it does, and some occasional tool tossing too :twisted:

Oh yes, that also! I have the scarred Craftsman ratchets and sockets to prove that.

fyi, it looks exactly and installs exactly the same on the xA.

I bit of a pain to install if you've anly got one person, but installable. I installed it myself alone in about 15-20min. Included some cussing too. ; )

Lee, doesn't all work on any car require some cussing? :wink:
Yes it does, and some occasional tool tossing too :twisted:

Oh yes, that also! I have the scarred Craftsman ratchets and sockets to prove that.
LMAO so do I :lol:

fyi, it looks exactly and installs exactly the same on the xA.

I bit of a pain to install if you've anly got one person, but installable. I installed it myself alone in about 15-20min. Included some cussing too. ; )

Lee, doesn't all work on any car require some cussing? :wink:
Yes it does, and some occasional tool tossing too :twisted:

Oh yes, that also! I have the scarred Craftsman ratchets and sockets to prove that.
LMAO so do I :lol:
I try to refrain from throwing tools since chasing them down just ____es me off even more :evil:

fyi, it looks exactly and installs exactly the same on the xA.

I bit of a pain to install if you've anly got one person, but installable. I installed it myself alone in about 15-20min. Included some cussing too. ; )

Lee, doesn't all work on any car require some cussing? :wink:
Yes it does, and some occasional tool tossing too :twisted:

Oh yes, that also! I have the scarred Craftsman ratchets and sockets to prove that.
LMAO so do I :lol:
I try to refrain from throwing tools since chasing them down just ____es me off even more :evil:
But it feels so good to take your frustrations out on something :twisted:

if yer vain about yer toold just bring em back to a sears and says theyre stripped , or that the open end of the wrench has opened up. you'll get new ones. but only 10 at a time

Think this would fit on the Echo Hatch? I assume it's pretty much the same suspension? :s

Sup Guys,

I carry the Progress sway bar for xB's...

$175 shipped (48 states)

hit me up!

pz,
wayne

Sup Guys,

I carry the Progress sway bar for xB's...

$175 shipped (48 states)

hit me up!

pz,
wayne
I guess you didn't read this post huh :roll:
I think the cheapest place to buy it is ptuning.com with the scionlife coupon (check the sponsered sales section). It comes out to like 144 shipped or something...

FYI, we offer the Hotchkis Tuning Sport Anti-Roll bar set. The bar diameters are 29mm Front, 13mm Rear. The front bar is hollow and rear bar is an add-on bar that is designed to work in conjunction with factory bar. Includes greasable bushings and mounting brackets. For more information, please visit our site at:
http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=DJ1&url=/suspension/index.jsp

FYI, we offer the Hotchkis Tuning Sport Anti-Roll bar set. The bar diameters are 29mm Front, 13mm Rear. The front bar is hollow and rear bar is an add-on bar that is designed to work in conjunction with factory bar.

Factory bar?

The xB does not come with a factory rear sway.

this thing is heavy as hell

fyi, it looks exactly and installs exactly the same on the xA.

I bit of a pain to install if you've anly got one person, but installable. I installed it myself alone in about 15-20min. Included some cussing too. ; )

i usually start cussing right before i start the project thinking about the bad stuff. i get annoyed quick :)

FYI, we offer the Hotchkis Tuning Sport Anti-Roll bar set. The bar diameters are 29mm Front, 13mm Rear. The front bar is hollow and rear bar is an add-on bar that is designed to work in conjunction with factory bar.

Factory bar?

The xB does not come with a factory rear sway.
i think he meant the torsion beam

how thick is the progress rear bar?

22 mm. Works well with the stock front sway. Balanced.......

the thing is great I highly recommend it.

However, now that its settled in i'm noticing a bit more body roll (than when i first installed it),

but that is probably b/c i'm cornering more aggressively or getting used to the ride with it on.

It's here:

http://www.ptuning.com/html/Item-Desc.cfm?PartNo=PT62%2E2170&MakeCode=scion&ModelCode=xB&ModelYear=2004%2D2005%20All&ModelDesc=xB

i've installed and i dunno i don't feel a thing with it in :?

but its a mod i'm gonna keep on there

Strange. You should not feel much until you push the car in a corner. You should feel a reduction in roll (especially on the XB). The primary difference I felt was that the car does not plow (understeer) through corners near as much. Understeer causes your front wheels to lose grip well before your rear wheels. This is the way most FWD econo cars are set up from the factory because it is safer (more intuative to correct the "overspeed" situation with brakes and steering). Maybe the extreme understeer that I noticed without the rear sway bar was because my car was lowered. Don't know. You should recheck the torque on the nuts after a few miles. Good luck.

I just installed it along with the DC strut bar.I do notice a differance during hard cornering.A good mod for the price i paid.

Strange. You should not feel much until you push the car in a corner. You should feel a reduction in roll (especially on the XB). The primary difference I felt was that the car does not plow (understeer) through corners near as much. Understeer causes your front wheels to lose grip well before your rear wheels. This is the way most FWD econo cars are set up from the factory because it is safer (more intuative to correct the "overspeed" situation with brakes and steering). Maybe the extreme understeer that I noticed without the rear sway bar was because my car was lowered. Don't know. You should recheck the torque on the nuts after a few miles. Good luck.

well the only time i can get extreme understeer is while in the snow and it hasn't snowed in a long while

and i loc-tite nuts and bolts together

well the only time i can get extreme understeer is while in the snow and it hasn't snowed in a long while


The stock XA does have more neutral handling than the stock XB. The handling improvement would be more apparent in the XB.

I wonder if this bar is too much for the XA? You don't want to have so much rear sway bar that it oversteers (unless your a rally racer). Anybody experience oversteer with the rear sway bar???

The XB with this bar ends up pretty neutral.

i love oversteer lot more enjoyable in the snow :D

yeah , understeer sucks arse.

wooo-weee!! just installed this sucker last night, took an onramp faster than i have and did not even roll, man this thing is awesome!
i actually look forward to merging onto hwys now... how lame :silly:

i can get up to highway speeds pretty damn fast its the other slow ppl likes to merge into highway traffic at 45 mph :flame: slow f**ks!!! :roll:

are you all just using the rear sway bar or both front and rear...i ordered my set but im not sure whether to install just the rear. isnt it designed to be installed and driven simutaneously?

i just have the stock front sway bar don't feel like installing an after market on for the front way too much work!!!

Work = greatnees!!

this sway bar is great..i definately carry more speed and flatness in hard corners

Do they make a front sway bar? I like the reviews that the rear is getting.


Is there any problem with mixing different brands of sway bars? What do you guys recoomend for the front? I have seen one by DC and Hotchkis. Any preferences?

I'm curious about the front myself.

I'm so spoiled by the old Porsche, it tracks like it's on rails.

i think replacing the front sway would be a pain in the ___ cause you have to drop the K-frame to get to it :roll:

add that to tech page