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kita
11-04-2004, 03:36 PM
Has anyone successfully increased the driver leg room.....you know, moved the seat tracks back or some other way?

I'd love to get some suggestions, parts sources or whatever. Thanks,

dskize1
11-04-2004, 04:24 PM
i am short so i dont need to, besides all the taller then me folks say they have plenty of leg room. when i bought my car the salesman was like 6'2" and he had tons of room

dgHotLava
11-04-2004, 04:30 PM
don't think i need more leg room, i wish the front part of the seat was higher

Male_Nurse
11-04-2004, 04:55 PM
You think there'd be any way to modify the rear seats to where they can recline? The tC has that option, why can't the xB have that same option as well? I think that it's more fitting to have that reclining back seat in our cars than the tC, don't ya'll think?

preludemd
11-04-2004, 05:22 PM
Actually, I think it would be cool if you could get universal rails and then put 2 reclining bucket sport seats in the rear. But I'd say put the post in the "dear scion" forum and hopefully the correct people will see it.

superjeer
11-04-2004, 06:01 PM
Has anyone successfully increased the driver leg room.....you know, moved the seat tracks back or some other way?

I'd love to get some suggestions, parts sources or whatever. Thanks,

wow. how tall are you?

Joehnn
11-04-2004, 06:44 PM
Has anyone successfully increased the driver leg room.....you know, moved the seat tracks back or some other way?

I'd love to get some suggestions, parts sources or whatever. Thanks,

wow. how tall are you?

He must be very tall. I'm 6'3" and have plenty of leg room.

TeStAxB04
11-04-2004, 06:47 PM
I kind of wish the bottom of the seat tipped up a little. I'm 4'11 and my left leg dangles and a lot of the time i'm driving with my tippy toes if i dont wear heels haha....otherwise i'm chokin on the steering wheel. I think the dteering wheel should drop down a little further too..

kita
11-04-2004, 07:02 PM
Why does it matter to you guys how tall I am....maybe I'm just peddelphobic!

The truth....I'm 6'3", but I guess a little more leg than torso...Also, my xB is a stick and with the third peddle, there's no room to streachout.,....plus, sometimes my accelerator foot hits the little heater duct thingy and I can't step on the gas all the way. I'm not looking to drive from the back seat, like some on the other posters, just an inch or two more would make things lots more comfortable.

So....back to the original question....any ideas other than amputation!

Max2k
11-04-2004, 07:04 PM
You can get longer bolts for the front of the seats and stack some washers in there to make it more comfortable. First car modification I ever did, one of the best ones, too.

You can pull the carpet up and take the foam bump thing out. It'd give you a little more room but the carpet wouldn't go down right.

pdrizzle
11-04-2004, 08:48 PM
I've got one for you guys. I think the leg room is fine, but the way I like to drive, I need the steering wheel to come out more. I wish xBs had a telescoping steering wheel, but since they don't, does anyone know of a product/mod that can push my steering wheel closer to me? The only other thing I can think of is to get a different steering wheel with long bolts and lots of washers or a spacer. Any ideas?

lonewolfxb
11-04-2004, 11:48 PM
aint heard of one,maybe get your arms shortened? really i dont think there is anything we can do about this,bothers me too.

pdrizzle
11-05-2004, 12:11 AM
Well, actually I wouldn't get my arms shortened, I would get them lengthened. I want to sit back more and have the wheel closer to me, like a more sportier feel. I'd like to have my legs stretched out in front of me with my seat reclined slightly and the wheel almost in my lap. Right now I feel like I'm driving a minivan or something and I think I'd be more comfortable if it felt like I was driving a car.

HotXB
11-05-2004, 12:17 AM
I don't have a problem with the leg room but I do have a problem with the seat being to short. I sometimes feel like I'm going to fall forward out of the seat. I think I'll try adding washers to raise the front of the seat like someone once suggested on another forum.

ksl_redsoxfan
11-05-2004, 12:32 AM
my buddy is like 6'6" and has plenty room and his big also. 8)

chadfo
11-05-2004, 12:40 AM
Moving the seat mounts back might be difficult because it's mounted to a beam of sorts. You'd have to fab up some risers. Plus you would have to worry about the placement of the jack.

It's dark out so I can't look but take a look and see if you can bend the seat stop and let the top rail slide back farther than normal. Just be careful not to let the ball bearings come out if you can get it to move.

Big_Jim
11-05-2004, 04:14 PM
Well, actually I wouldn't get my arms shortened, I would get them lengthened. I want to sit back more and have the wheel closer to me, like a more sportier feel. I'd like to have my legs stretched out in front of me with my seat reclined slightly and the wheel almost in my lap. Right now I feel like I'm driving a minivan or something and I think I'd be more comfortable if it felt like I was driving a car.

you're drivin an xB, sporty feel?? and yeah, it does feel like drivin a minivan, most likely cause it is one. lol

just bustin balls
Jim

pdrizzle
11-05-2004, 04:24 PM
Actually it is considered a station wagon. I've driven other station wagons and minivans, and I'd have to say that station wagons usually drive like cars (with big asses) and minivans drive, well, like minivans. I knew a guy who suped up a station wagon (it was an older Chevy with a 350 in it) and it was badass. I'm just saying the outside of an xB is sporty (at least mine is) so why shouldn't it feel like that when you sit in it. I don't know why the seats sit so high; my only explanation is that so you can put amps under them. Has anyone put a different steering wheel on their boxes?

jhilla68
11-05-2004, 05:12 PM
Well, I am 6'6" and I find myself pretty comfortable while driving. The height of the seat, matched with the leg room yields a pretty comfortable driving position. I could use an extra inch or two though. When I'm on a semi-long trip my leg starts to cramp up. But, I haven't found a car yet where that doesn't happen. I also just came out of driving a Crown 'Vic. :lol: One of the coolest things is I could fit in the back seat while I was driving. Nobody can believe the amount of room in the thing.

XwannaB
11-05-2004, 11:35 PM
Has anyone successfully increased the driver leg room.....you know, moved the seat tracks back or some other way?

I'd love to get some suggestions, parts sources or whatever. Thanks,

I don't own an XB for the lack of legroom up front (I'm 6'7"). It's more cramped than my '87 Accord. I couldn't believe it, I was so bummed. I love everything about the car, but I just can't do it comfort wise. The XB could easily have the front seats that move back an additional 3" without crowding anyone in back... SIGH...

I have not done this (will explain later) but my idea was to get some rectangular steel tube (3/4" x 1-1/2" by .120" wall thickness). Lay each tube down so it covers the front and back mounting holes. Measure the distance and drill completely through the top and bottom with a hole the diameter of the bolt. Then, drill a larger hole through the top so the head of the bolt will drop through. You can then drill new holes in the top portion of the tube for the seats to bolt onto. You'll probably need to do the opposite of the first four holes (small hole on top, bigger on bottom) so the bolt can go up through the tube and put the nut on top. Note, this arrangement causes you to lose 3/4" headroom, but that's probably not a problem (wasn't for me). All this assumes that the floor isn't too "lumpy" preventing the tube from laying flat (I don't know if this is true).

I haven't done any analysis, but assuming you only bolt the seat back 2-3 inches, I think this is plenty safe. However, I decided not to do this modification after reading http://www.tall.org/clubs/ny/tcnyc/Resources/modifying_a_car.html I recommend you read this and take it into consideration.

Hope this helps.
Dale

vcatron
11-06-2004, 11:57 PM
My youngest son is 6'5" and is not cramped at all in either the fron or back seats. Why change a good thing?

Placebo
11-07-2004, 11:54 PM
the xB is extremely roomy I got to sit in it today at the car show im 5'9 and there was so much room especially in the back lots and lots of leg room

lonewolfxb
11-08-2004, 11:47 PM
in ga. the insurance people call the xb a minivan,even tho the sticker calls it a small wagon, fyi.

pdrizzle
11-08-2004, 11:50 PM
That just shows that insurance people don't know what they're talking about. If my rates were different because of their incorrect distinction, I would argue with them that the government considers it a station wagon, unless that classification made insurance cheaper of course.

Big_Jim
11-09-2004, 03:10 AM
now heres a question...... you think the seats can be dropped??

like chop the rails 2 or 3 inches. i seen it done in a 96 galant before, looked kinda interesting.

any ideas?

XwannaB
11-20-2004, 03:07 PM
Has anyone successfully increased the driver leg room.....you know, moved the seat tracks back or some other way?

I'd love to get some suggestions, parts sources or whatever. Thanks,

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I have not done this (will explain later) but my idea was to get some rectangular steel tube (3/4" x 1-1/2" by .120" wall thickness). Lay each tube down so it covers the front and back mounting holes.
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Dale

I looked at the seat attachment points last night. My idea is no where close to feasible.

My guess is that the best bet is to get a longer seat rail or to somehow move the rail back.

seeheather
11-20-2004, 03:36 PM
I have one suggestion...

My boyfriend is 6'2" and although he has "enough" leg room, he would be more comfortable if the seats could go back another 4-6 inches. We were at a Scion meet and a dealer rep said they could recommend someone to use that does the same thing on their other vehicles. For example, some of our professional basketball players have bought new landcruisers from them and still need the seats moved back. Ask your local dealer if they know of a place that would do it....sorry I don't have a price for you. Good Luck!!!

Skeeterflea
11-20-2004, 03:42 PM
I'm going to guess that your arms are long enough to reach the wheel, whne you have the seat moved back? Because I'm only 6'1" and it's uncomfortable for me to have my seat back so my legs are stretched out. Only because the steering wheel isn't telescopic. I feel like I'm over stretching my arms to hold the wheel. Maybe my legs are just unproportional. Any of you taller people have the same experience?

bB2NER
11-20-2004, 03:46 PM
I'm 6'3" and if the seat was 3 to 4 inches farther back I wouldn't be able to reach the wheel comfotably. As far as lowering the seat WHY? thats part of box most love that its easy to get in and out without having to CLIMB out. :roll:

superfreestyle
11-20-2004, 07:33 PM
Well about a week ago i put tanabe's on my camo xb and it lowered it about 2.5 inches. Before i did this i wanted to lower my seats so that i would feel closer to the ground. Now that I have lower the whole car I do not want to lower the seats, When I look out of the driver window it looks and feels like I am closer to the ground than in my mercedes. The tanabe DF's improved the handling by a few points but best of all I have a nearly stock ride qualityand i'm 2.5 to 3 inches lower (I have a heavy set of subs in it that brings it down some), as a matter of fact it still rides better than the TRD lowering springs which only lower it about 3/4 inch.