Last time I checked, it wasn't a Lexus....
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Last time I checked, it wasn't a Lexus....
Just about every other post in these forums is a complaint about something. If you wanted a "noise/problem free" ride you should have spent about $15-$20K more and bought an Infinity or a BMW and even then, there WOULD NOT be any guarantee you'd be happy. Something would creak or your shifter feels weird and......well, you know..... If the reason you bought it was for price, go buy a Neon....they're cheap. Probably rattle too, but cheap.
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its like that with every car. For some complaint free posts though there are other places you can check out.
-Juan
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-Juan
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Originally Posted by heysues
its like that with every car. For some complaint free posts though there are other places you can check out
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The RSX and GTI are cars that have been around for at least a couple years (GTI longer). This is the first year of production for the tC. I'm pretty sure I heard that the RSX had tranny problems in its first year of production (someone confirm this). And the GTI I'm sure had its fair share of bugs the first year it came out.
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Originally Posted by BSP_5c10n
The RSX and GTI are cars that have been around for at least a couple years (GTI longer). This is the first year of production for the tC. I'm pretty sure I heard that the RSX had tranny problems in its first year of production (someone confirm this). And the GTI I'm sure had its fair share of bugs the first year it came out.
The GTI continues to have MAJOR problems, not just rattles. Failures of engine sensors and electrical grimlins (ignition failure).
So yea, there needs to be some patience with Scion to right the tC's very minor woes.
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Originally Posted by MrJohnson
You know Comprobable cars like the RSX and the GTI don't have bad rattles or road noise. So no, I won't get over it.
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With 5,000 miles on the odometer, I've had no problems at all with my tC. But I'm glad that people that do have problems are posting them. If nobody complains, the problems won't be investigated. I'm willing to bet that my car has fewer problems because people on this and other boards pointed out the trouble spots, which Toyota then focused on and dealt with.
It doesn't matter if the tC has more or fewer problems than other cars, or whether you should expect more or fewer problems for what you paid. Everyone has a right to expect that their problems will be fixed.
It doesn't matter if the tC has more or fewer problems than other cars, or whether you should expect more or fewer problems for what you paid. Everyone has a right to expect that their problems will be fixed.
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Originally Posted by Nick@AGP
My friends mazda 3 is great. My car and my friends TCs are both rattle traps.
My 93 mitsubishi didn't rattle, so why should my brand new scion? No new car should rattle.
My 93 mitsubishi didn't rattle, so why should my brand new scion? No new car should rattle.
Hey, did you get anywhere by taking your tC to a different dealership? what about the lemon lawyer guy?
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Ok, well how about we compair it to the Honda Civic or the Toyota Corolla. My friend has a 2003 Toyota Corolla and it doesn't rattle.
Also, I have 1.8K Miles on my tC and I have the hatch rattle.
I love my tC too I just hate how there are quality problems like this. Toyota needs to fix them free of charge.
Also, I have 1.8K Miles on my tC and I have the hatch rattle.
I love my tC too I just hate how there are quality problems like this. Toyota needs to fix them free of charge.
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Originally Posted by Ms Jackal
my buddies new Hyundai doesn't even rattle
Yeah, but do you really want a Hyundai? :?:
Hyundai right now is nothing like the old hyundai.
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Yeah, but do you really want a Hyundai?
Ok, well how about we compair it to the Honda Civic or the Toyota Corolla. My friend has a 2003 Toyota Corolla and it doesn't rattle.
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Between Nick's poor understanding of sample sizes and the absolutist bromides ("no new car should rattle"... yeah, lecture mercedes-benz while you're at it) being tossed about, I'm going to pull a Chef Raekwon and ask y'all a favor...
Please label any new threads about rattles with the appropriate word "rattle." Or if you have something positive to contribute, say "rattle fix." This will allow us to skip the whining and bleating and go straight to the threads that have actually something interesting to say. Thanks yo!
Please label any new threads about rattles with the appropriate word "rattle." Or if you have something positive to contribute, say "rattle fix." This will allow us to skip the whining and bleating and go straight to the threads that have actually something interesting to say. Thanks yo!
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A rattle is minor. A engine senor malfunctioning or tranny problems is something to _____ about. When I buy a car I expect it to have some minor nuance, especially in its first production year. Now if I bought a BMW or a Benz, I would _____ about a rattle. This is why BMW and MB have higher rates of people _____ing. Even then, you should expect something to possibly be not right in the first year of production. It's a rattle. Be damn happy its not a messed up tranny.
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Originally Posted by ScummyMcOwnage
This is why BMW and MB have higher rates of people _____ing.
Originally Posted by Linkage
If your Mercedes doesn't have problems
Don't worry
It will
Here's an email I sent to journalists at major newsmagazines.
Dear Journalist,
I enjoyed speaking with you today. I have included my list of Mercedes problems below.
I wish I had read your article before purchasing my Mercedes Benz ML430, which has had 50 or more problems, and 60 days of service in 4 years. It helps potential buyers make a more informed choice.
I had to return the vehicle on 20 or more occasions to Autonation (the dealer) for warranty repairs. All Mercedes is willing to offer as compensation is $1000, when purchasing a new Mercedes. Despite the many defects Mercedes Benz has not offered to repurchase the car.
The problems included a defective brake system, a defective electrical system, a defective navigation system, a defective washer system, a defective AC system, defective locks, defective trim, defective doors, windows and sunroof and a defective entertainment system.
In addition it often took 1 month to get the vehicle serviced. Often the dealer did not fix the problem on their first attempt, resulting in having to return the vehicle again for repair of the same defect.
I have attached a more detailed list of the problems below.
I get the impression that 1 out of 4 have many problems (not a formal survey).
I look forward to your next article about Mercedes Benz quality problems.
Sincerely
c
50 Mercedes Problems in 4 Years
1. Brake system defect (pump leak)
2. Wiper motor defect
3. Door problems (latch noises)
4. Door problems (maladjusted door)
5. Command center malfunction (dead navigation system)
6. Door lock malfunction (right rear door actuator)
7. Washer reservoir leaking
8. Lamp switch defect (stop lamp)
9. Fuel filter problem
10. Door lock malfunction (gas door actuator)
11. AC problem. (AC fan speed switch **** malfunction)
12. Door lock malfunction (gas door actuator)
13. Trim problem (sunroof seal fell off)
14. Door problem (Rattle from inside left rear door - loose metal washer)
15. Trim problem (3rd brake lamp cover pops off even when re-secured
16. Trim problem (rear inside trim panel defective)
17. Window washer nozzle defective on right side
18. Command center malfunction (dead navigation system)
19. Door lock problem
20. Lamp problem (defective check engine light - right rear 02 sensor)
21. Rotor in rear changed at only 27500 miles
22. Sunroof shade problems
23. Sunroof guide clip missing
24. Sunroof shade problems
25. Trim problem (left outer seat trim cracked)
26. Sun roof frame defect
27. Seatbelt jammed (left rear)
28. Brake system defect (pad wear sensor defect)
29. Defect fuel door lock actuator
30. Rear door latch replacement
31. AC problem (system not cooling properly)
32. Sunroof motor connectors rattling
33. AC problem (blower motor rattle)
34. Window problem (switch bad)
35. Command center problem (CD changer error)
36. Window problem (clicking front left window)
37. Door lock problem (rear right/left door actuator defect)
38. Door problem (insulation inside right door damaged due to melting glue)
39. Command center problem (CD changer error)
40. Trim crack (leather on steering wheel cracked)
41. Door problem (rear right/left door actuator defect)
42. AC problems (blower rattle)
43. AC problems (clicking sounds)
44. Trim crack (cracks in duct tape on door)
45. Door problem (rear left door actuator defect)
46. Washer reservoir crack
47. Right window washer nozzle defect
48. Lock problem (front left door actuator defect)
49. Car manuals taken from my car during service
50. Power steering problem (replacement of clamp for power steering hose due to possible fluid loss at radiator)
Don't worry
It will
Here's an email I sent to journalists at major newsmagazines.
Dear Journalist,
I enjoyed speaking with you today. I have included my list of Mercedes problems below.
I wish I had read your article before purchasing my Mercedes Benz ML430, which has had 50 or more problems, and 60 days of service in 4 years. It helps potential buyers make a more informed choice.
I had to return the vehicle on 20 or more occasions to Autonation (the dealer) for warranty repairs. All Mercedes is willing to offer as compensation is $1000, when purchasing a new Mercedes. Despite the many defects Mercedes Benz has not offered to repurchase the car.
The problems included a defective brake system, a defective electrical system, a defective navigation system, a defective washer system, a defective AC system, defective locks, defective trim, defective doors, windows and sunroof and a defective entertainment system.
In addition it often took 1 month to get the vehicle serviced. Often the dealer did not fix the problem on their first attempt, resulting in having to return the vehicle again for repair of the same defect.
I have attached a more detailed list of the problems below.
I get the impression that 1 out of 4 have many problems (not a formal survey).
I look forward to your next article about Mercedes Benz quality problems.
Sincerely
c
50 Mercedes Problems in 4 Years
1. Brake system defect (pump leak)
2. Wiper motor defect
3. Door problems (latch noises)
4. Door problems (maladjusted door)
5. Command center malfunction (dead navigation system)
6. Door lock malfunction (right rear door actuator)
7. Washer reservoir leaking
8. Lamp switch defect (stop lamp)
9. Fuel filter problem
10. Door lock malfunction (gas door actuator)
11. AC problem. (AC fan speed switch **** malfunction)
12. Door lock malfunction (gas door actuator)
13. Trim problem (sunroof seal fell off)
14. Door problem (Rattle from inside left rear door - loose metal washer)
15. Trim problem (3rd brake lamp cover pops off even when re-secured
16. Trim problem (rear inside trim panel defective)
17. Window washer nozzle defective on right side
18. Command center malfunction (dead navigation system)
19. Door lock problem
20. Lamp problem (defective check engine light - right rear 02 sensor)
21. Rotor in rear changed at only 27500 miles
22. Sunroof shade problems
23. Sunroof guide clip missing
24. Sunroof shade problems
25. Trim problem (left outer seat trim cracked)
26. Sun roof frame defect
27. Seatbelt jammed (left rear)
28. Brake system defect (pad wear sensor defect)
29. Defect fuel door lock actuator
30. Rear door latch replacement
31. AC problem (system not cooling properly)
32. Sunroof motor connectors rattling
33. AC problem (blower motor rattle)
34. Window problem (switch bad)
35. Command center problem (CD changer error)
36. Window problem (clicking front left window)
37. Door lock problem (rear right/left door actuator defect)
38. Door problem (insulation inside right door damaged due to melting glue)
39. Command center problem (CD changer error)
40. Trim crack (leather on steering wheel cracked)
41. Door problem (rear right/left door actuator defect)
42. AC problems (blower rattle)
43. AC problems (clicking sounds)
44. Trim crack (cracks in duct tape on door)
45. Door problem (rear left door actuator defect)
46. Washer reservoir crack
47. Right window washer nozzle defect
48. Lock problem (front left door actuator defect)
49. Car manuals taken from my car during service
50. Power steering problem (replacement of clamp for power steering hose due to possible fluid loss at radiator)