I got pulled over tonight, the cop said my exhaust was illegal and my windows were too dark. i had my front ones down. so it was factory tint he was complaining about. he didnt have a light meter though. so i need to goto the dmv or soemthing he said to have them check it.

he also said my exhaust was too loud. its a GReddy SP2 with a dc sports header and aem intake. so they got to check that too i guess.

anyone else have these problems yet? my exhaust doesnt seem much louder than factory. ill have to look into it and stuff tomorow. im gonna go play halo2 now.

but any suggestions would be good

It seems he was just acting like a dick...get it checked out if he wrote you up and prove him wrong.

Well you're gonna beat the window tint thing for the rear windows, but the front 2 might give you problems.

That is definately a cop on a power trip. I had a civic a while back that had legal tint and this cop gave me shnizzle about one night. It was dusk so it looked a lot darker then it was. I told him to get off my case its legal and he was like I am calling the officer with the light meter and you are getting a ticket. I had nothing to do so I sipped on my mocha while the rectum inspector and his buddy put their meter all over the car to find a dark spot. Then when they started looking over the car for something else to write me up for I laughed and said you guys are pathetic you can look all you want but you cant get me for nothing except oops that coffee spill on your nice white cruiser hhehehe. After about 45 min and a mocha and a muffin they decided they didnt have anything on me.
so then it went like this
RI: I am going to write you a warning.
Me: For what?
RI: For dark tint.
Me: Call your seargent, you have wasted 45 min of my time and this is turning into a prime case of harrassment. Your just jealous you dont have a ride as fine as mine.
RI: I dont need to call my seargent I am writing you a warning and thats that and if you give me any more lip I will arrest you.
(now is a good time to tell you I shoot with a bunch of the local and state patrol near me and I know what my rights are :twisted: )
Me: Start writing but this one is going to cost you. I start to dial 911 which gets his attention.
RI: who are you calling?
Me: 911 I need to report a case of police harassment. And your badge number is please?
RI: Mumbles some police jargon in his radio but obvious his seargent is on the way.

end result was the sargent showed up and starting asking him what the deal was, got out his meter checked the car, looked it over appologised to me profusely for wasting over an hour of my time and proceeded to verbally rip I am assuming this new rookie a new ___ hehehe.

needless to say I avoid that city now but what a great time it was to watch him squirm.

I would still go to IAD if I were you. 45 minutes for a traffic enforcement IS excessive. Asking to see the Suppervisor and refusing is prolly a violation of his dept's General Orders and Maunal of Rules.

And yes, I'm in the same line of work. BUT, I have better things to do and my stops don't take 45 minutes. And I have a better understanding of the Vehicle Code.

I would still go to IAD if I were you. 45 minutes for a traffic enforcement IS excessive. Asking to see the Suppervisor and refusing is prolly a violation of his dept's General Orders and Maunal of Rules.

And yes, I'm in the same line of work. BUT, I have better things to do and my stops don't take 45 minutes. And I have a better understanding of the Vehicle Code.Ya Brad likes to pull over little old ladies for going too slow! :lol: :twisted:

well im on my way to go get it checked out now. and the cop never saw my front windows, they were down. he was whining about my rear windows and stuff.

well im on my way to go get it checked out now. and the cop never saw my front windows, they were down. he was whining about my rear windows and stuff.
Good luck bro 8)

well Ive posted before about a cop that pulled me over because "I flashed my lights at him"- Umm No! i did not flash my lights at you PIG!- the xB's suspension is very stiff- driving over minor bumps downtown will give that effect- I tried explaining that to him- but he kept asking q's about my box...

well that was useless, the dmv doesnt do either, they sent me to emissions. emissions doesnt do it either. so i called the state patrol, they can check the windows but they dont have a meter for exhaust. and lady on phone tried telling me if it didnt come with car its illegal

well that was useless, the dmv doesnt do either, they sent me to emissions. emissions doesnt do it either. so i called the state patrol, they can check the windows but they dont have a meter for exhaust. and lady on phone tried telling me if it didnt come with car its illegal
I've heard that one too. If the exhaust isn't factory it's illegal.

i tried looking at wisconsin laws to find whats allowed and not, it just says anything that is louder than factory isnt allowed. its pretty vague. how are you suppose to judge if its above factory and hand a ticket out?

im going to email sema and see what they say.

Did the cop have a decible meter? If not then you should beat that ticket. They have to prove the exhaust is too loud and if there is no decible reading then it is bull____.

As for the rear windows, have your dealer write you out something saying that the tint is stock from the factory and you should walk away free and clear on both.

$teve

Just wondering, how much was the ticket for the exhaust? I think in PA its not that much (under $50) and they dont even check to see if you changed the exhaust. I'm not sure though.

Alot of states have very vague laws about exhaust. These laws are basically unenforcable. Most of the time as long as your not running straight pipes, they can't do much. Unless it like Ca. w/ the 90db rule.

if the law states anything louder than stock i'm pretty sure whether the cop was a dick or not he's probably not so dumb as to not know what 90% of aftermarket exhaust look and sound like. just my 2 cents. and i can just about guarantee you will get screwed with the front tint.

i didnt get a ticket because he had no way of proving the tint was illegal and the exhaust i got a warning. it says the violation must be corrected at once. all future operations without corrections are illegal

i stopped at the window tint place we have here and they metered it for me, the sides came to 27% and the front was 18% i think. so they are both illegal. but he says sicne the rears are factory they cant ticket me for it. but the fronts they can. so ill wait until i get a actual ticket before doing anything.

i think the vehicle looks ugly with the fronts the way they come stock

27% blocking or 27% thru? so id assume its 30 then and you put 20 on the front? almost al;l states allow tint on the rears. but i may be wrong

wisconsin law is 50% on fronts and 35% on sides and rear

http://www.iwfa.com/iwfa/Law_Chart/State%20Law%20Chart.htm

i tried asking at scion.com
bob was useless

Bob: How may I help you today?
kirby: i was wondering what the tint percentage is on the windows of the scion xB
kirby: i got pulled over for factory tint last night
Bob: The windows are the only ones that are tinted.
Bob: From the factory.
kirby: yes but whats the percent of tint on those windows. how much light does it let through
Bob: I have to look that up, hang on...
Bob: The privacy glass in the xB side and rear windows are 91-95 % UV-cut
kirby: whats the percentage of light let through then?
kirby: still there?
Bob: The % is 91-95 % UV-cut

How can they give you an exhaust ticket for anything that didn't come from the factory? I know some people must have bought their car with the TRD muffler... which didn't come from the factory, but it must be legal in all 50 states, if you can buy it from the dealer like that.

I got hosed once because the cop thought my Mitsubishi Eclipse had an illegal exhaust... but it was stock. I really dislike exhaust tickets.

How can they give you an exhaust ticket for anything that didn't come from the factory? I know some people must have bought their car with the TRD muffler... which didn't come from the factory, but it must be legal in all 50 states, if you can buy it from the dealer like that.

I got hosed once because the cop thought my Mitsubishi Eclipse had an illegal exhaust... but it was stock. I really dislike exhaust tickets.

i talked to the dealer that sold me mine, and he has the trd exhuast on his, he said its made to not go over a certain db. the greddy should be too, i just need to contact greddy next and get that info from them

No problems with tint here. MD law allows trucks/vans/suv's to have as dark of tint they want on all windows except front door windows. Those must be 35%. So we have 5% everywhere except front which is 35%.

No problems with tint here. MD law allows trucks/vans/suv's to have as dark of tint they want on all windows except front door windows. Those must be 35%. So we have 5% everywhere except front which is 35%.


but it MD the xb is still a car not trucks/vans/suv's i know because i asked a cop and went to the dmv

I have seen many xBs in Maryland that have multi-purpose vehicle tags. Doesn't that mean they're classed with SUVs and the like? I'd like to know, I'm pretty sure it costs more to register a multipurpose vehicle than a car.

I don't see how anybody can give you a ticket for the rear windows. They're factory. What are you supposed to do? Knock them out?
As for what the statement from the DMV or state patrol or whatever...the one about "if it didn't come with the car it's illegal" is about the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Does that mean the when the "factory" exhaust rusts out and you replace it w/OEM style exhaust, that's illegal? Or when your tires wear down and you replace them, is that illegal too? It's a bunch of BS.
It's irritating when dumbass cops harrass people becasue they have a vehicle doesn't look stock. Even if the vehicle is 100% legal. There should be some kind of way to make the officer pay YOU some kind of retribution. Like washing your car, by hand, for a month. :D

As for your exhaust, I don't know specifically about the SP2, but I thought Greddy was the only exhaust manufacturer that went out of their way to make an exhaust system that IS legal in Cali. And if it's legal in Cali, I would *imagine* that it would be legal pretty much everywhere else since California is supposed to be a bunch of _______s about sound laws.

Sounds like the cop hasn't gotten any lately and he or she was just releasing their frustrations on your car. My tints are 5% all around. I live in Miami so I guess the cops are more worried about getting shot at a convenience store rather than stopping the half million people around here with loud azz exhaust pipes. Honestly if i were you I would go to prove him wrong but what I did when I lived in Jersey was I went to the DMV because of my tints also but in jersey you cant have tints at all anywhere so of course as if I would ever listen yeah I'm hard headed so i got stopped in my 79 VW Scirocco so i went to the DMV i lowered the windows in the middle of Winter of course removed the window cranks and told the inspector that my windows were down permanently and that i parked in a garage so i really didnt care about windows. He looked around the car looked at me and felt bad I guess because my lips were turning blue and passed me. To this day I think that cop still hates my guts. I love it!!!!!!!

just a lil thing to note and not get too OT....but my MD Registration states I own a 2004 Toyota Truck and I have M tags(which is what SUV's and Mulitpurpose vehicles have)

~wC

No problems with tint here. MD law allows trucks/vans/suv's to have as dark of tint they want on all windows except front door windows. Those must be 35%. So we have 5% everywhere except front which is 35%.


but it MD the xb is still a car not trucks/vans/suv's i know because i asked a cop and went to the dmv

Why do we have SUV license plates. Its wierd. Insurance said my xb is a wagon, the tint place said a SUV, the dealer said I need SUV license plates.

I know I got 20% all around my XB and I know its illegal :) Ill take my chance.

just a lil thing to note and not get too OT....but my MD Registration states I own a 2004 Toyota Truck and I have M tags(which is what SUV's and Mulitpurpose vehicles have)

~wC

Just took the words out of my mouth. hehe :)

does your registration also say 2004 Toyota Truck?

~wC

my title, registration and insurance all say different things, but they SHOULD all say 5 door wagon.

mine says 2005 toyota truck also

The xB is classified as a MPV. I had similar problems when I had a PT cruiser LE. Since we have a MPV, the tint laws only aply to the front windows/windshield. you can paint the rear freaking windows if you wanted. if you do get the front tented though, becareful what states you drive through, some statelaws allow them to ticket for tint even on cars regestered out of state :shock: damn you VA!!!

No problems with tint here. MD law allows trucks/vans/suv's to have as dark of tint they want on all windows except front door windows. Those must be 35%. So we have 5% everywhere except front which is 35%.


but it MD the xb is still a car not trucks/vans/suv's i know because i asked a cop and went to the dmv

Nope. I wouldn't ask a cop. That's like asking a panhandler on the street when it comes to these cars. If you asked several you would probably get a variety of answers. Since my insurance lists it as an SUV and that is on my insurance card, the state wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court if I was ticketed. That and the first 3 letters of the VIN are the same used to classify SUV's.

i called greddy and they said the SP2 exhaust is designed to not be louder than 92db at 3k

the cop told my my plate is for a car but he thought it should be the same as an suv. he sad that most cops would leave me alone but there are some cops who live for that and told me to go to the dmv and try to get it changed. they sad it was a car. shouldent the whole state have the same standard.

lol i wonder what my ca registration has it labeled as. lemme go check

my ca registration says that its a model scion with the body style of : cp or coupe. hmm? works for me

How come Harleys don't get harassed by cops for loud exhausts. Now, Before I get ripped, I don't hate Harleys, Just the ones that leave the bars all together at two in the morning and have to rip ___ along the street. That's loud. I seem to really not notice the ricers unless burn out at the stopsign by the house. You see I plan to do a cutom setup using a sr8 thru muffler and double 2.5 inch slant cut tips. It's a bit excessive , but looks kick a$$. I typically drive just back and forth to work. I shouldn't get too much trouble. I think cops go by local ordinance and that is how these tickets come to be. Jus be careful.

All the xBs I have noticed here in Md all have the same kind of tags my xA does. Being a box doesn't make you an SUV when you are based off the Toyota Echo, which is the new Tercel. Nothing you could do to a Tercel would make it an SUV.