My name is Travis.. I own a small performance shop in Southern Louisiana (www.fi-r.com). We have over 10 years of combined experience on import and domestic experience in Turbocharging, Supercharging, and Nitrous Injection. Growing up, I did a lot of small block Chevy work.. and have built a few nice domestic cars. The last 4 years or so.. we have catered to the Nissan community. A few accomplishments over the last few years..
Highest (stateside) HP production from a SR20DET (661whp/583ft lbs)
First production bolt-on turbo kit for the SE-R Spec V (275whp/250ft lbs on stock engine)
First fully built Spec V (401whp/350ft lbs on pump gas)
First DET swapped B15 Sentra (00+ model)
First to build a destroked QR25DE motor
Ever since the Scion TC was unveiled, I've taken a back-seat.. and have watched the sales numbers/interest in the car. I think there's enough market now to warrant some R&D in a bolt-on, low-cost turbo kit.. as well as engine internal R&D. I'm not one to step on anyone's toes.. and I respect the work that the companys here are doing.. However, I want to get into the Scion market, and offer a reliable, affordable, bolt-on turbo kit for the TC guys. Rough estimates give me a MSRP of around 2500-3700.00.. providing 3 levels of entry. The first bieng a kit that provides the main parts needed.. minus the fuel system and misc. parts. The second level would be a low-boost entry kit priced between the low and high MSRP. The third would be a kit tuned for the max amount of power that can safely be made on a stock block. Fuel system AND timing will be addressed.
One thing I like about the Scion.. is that it presents a lot of the same challenges that we were faced with when we did the Spec V turbo kit R&D. I'll be gathering some info over the next month or so... and I'll be looking for someone in the south.. who would be willing to work with me on development. I will make it worth that person's time... please PM me for details.
Here's some pictures of some of the work that we do.. including our Spec V bolt-on kit.
http://www.fi-r.com/images/norlandt/Norlandt6.JPG bolt-on turbo kit
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Spec%20V%20turbo%20kit5.jpg Turbo components before ceramic coating
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Salvadore4.jpg S14 with SR swap..
http://www.fi-r.com/images/SalvadoreAFTER3.jpg
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Dion330whp.wmv Spec V, open DP, 330whp
If anyone in the south is interested in working with me on this... I'd be willing to make arrangements to sit down and talk face to face.. and show you first-hand some of our accomplishments. Again, please PM me for more details. Thanks..
Travis Burelle
www.fi-r.com
FIracing
11-11-2004, 10:55 PM
Also, as of now.. I'm am doing the base-package for sponsorship/advertising on here.. If things go well, I will put a lot more money into the site as sales are generated.
Travis
JasonH
11-12-2004, 12:14 AM
I think a number of people would be interested. Right now, there are a few companies working on turbos, and the TRD supercharger is coming too, so whoever has a good kit and makes it available first will have an advantage. It looks like you know what you're doing as far as turbo development. I'd love to see what you put together and how much power you get from a reliable bolt-on kit.
FIracing
11-12-2004, 04:01 AM
With the relatively large stoke.. and large displacement... it should make some good low-end/midrange.. and decent top end. The Spec V has a ludicrous rod/stroke ratio.. 1.43:1 It doesn't rev.. but it makes a ton of TQ down low.. and a big, broad curve. This motor isn't as bad.. it's kinda in the middle of where you want to be for a good, streetable, turbo motor. The Spec V's motor is also open deck.. however, the sleeve design is pretty durable. I think somewhere in the realm of 250-260whp on 93 octane is totaly feasible.. as long as it's tuned correctly. We make 280whp or so on the Spec V and it's been fine for over a year and 1/2.
Travis
hotbox05
11-12-2004, 04:53 AM
you need to do a turbo kit for the xb's and xa's
FIracing
11-12-2004, 06:14 AM
I wouldn't mind working with those two platforms... but I'd like to knock the TC stuff out first. I will address the other two afterwards.
Travis
hotbox05
11-12-2004, 06:54 AM
sounds good to me
bascelik
11-12-2004, 07:56 AM
I suggest a quick-spooling turbo. Bring whp to about 230 (+100 from stock) and you'll have a nice kit. I should spool around 3K, though.... my humble opinion...
FIracing
11-12-2004, 03:17 PM
Sounds about right... although I think we could probably get a little more power out of it. The Spec V is a 2.5 liter.. it puts down 150whp stock. With our turbo kit.. it usually puts down 275whp.. or 125whp gain. So, I was thinking somewhere along those lines.. Around 250whp or so for the Scion. Granted, that all depends on how the engine responds to tuning. We'll see...
Travis
mksm2000
11-13-2004, 01:33 AM
hey if u need a donor car buzz me in man :) willing to take my car there for that kit see how far that can go maybe who knows it might beat the other stuff in the market currently.
bascelik
11-15-2004, 09:37 AM
250whp would be great, especially if matching torque is provided, and turbo(s) spool by 3K rpm. But, as we all know, power is not everything, so here are a few 'flaws' that could be 'corrected' on a tC as well, and added to the package as optionals (or, at least, recommended):
* faster throttle response -- to compare, test drive a stock 350Z. You can rev-match, double-clutch, heel-toe much better when you know that throttle is right there when you need it. Current slow response from throttle input could be from slow mapping (is this car drive-by-wire?), throttle body, or even heavy flywheel... I don't know...
* better grip -- at least 245s on the front, preferably 265s...
* short-throw stick -- current one's angle can be reduced, as well as length
* suspension improvements -- car has torque-steer even with 140wtq, let alone at about 250+...also, would eliminate possibility of 'airplane launches' :)...
* (optional) increasing rev-limit by 500rpm, or 1000rpm
That's my 4.5c.
Malaclypse
11-15-2004, 03:20 PM
It's nice to see someone in south louisiana putting some work into our cars :) I'm very interested in an XA kit whenever you're ready to start working on one.
FIracing
11-15-2004, 04:57 PM
250whp would be great, especially if matching torque is provided, and turbo(s) spool by 3K rpm. But, as we all know, power is not everything, so here are a few 'flaws' that could be 'corrected' on a tC as well, and added to the package as optionals (or, at least, recommended):
* faster throttle response -- to compare, test drive a stock 350Z. You can rev-match, double-clutch, heel-toe much better when you know that throttle is right there when you need it. Current slow response from throttle input could be from slow mapping (is this car drive-by-wire?), throttle body, or even heavy flywheel... I don't know...
* better grip -- at least 245s on the front, preferably 265s...
* short-throw stick -- current one's angle can be reduced, as well as length
* suspension improvements -- car has torque-steer even with 140wtq, let alone at about 250+...also, would eliminate possibility of 'airplane launches' :)...
* (optional) increasing rev-limit by 500rpm, or 1000rpm
That's my 4.5c.
The car is drive by wire... which probably accounts for the mushines in the throttle response. The Spec V has the same problem.. Not much can be done about it if you want to retain the stock ECU. We have done standalone setups on the Spec.. and swapped the drive by wire out.. by fabricating a bracket to fit an older cable-style pedal and bracket. Then, swapped out to a different throttle body that uses a 0-5 volt TPS configuration. Works great.. but won't work with the factory ECU.. as it relies on inputs from the gas pedal to function properly. I'll see if it's the same on the TC..
Bigger tires shouldn't be a problem.. you'll need them with the additional power.. One thing about big stroke motors... is TQ hits like a bastard.. making for all sorts of wheelspin at low RPM.
Short throw shifter.. I'll see if I can work with a few companies on getting one made.
TQ steer is inevitable with these big, torquey motors.. Wait till you slap a turbo on.. it's even worse.
Rev limiter.. again, we'll need to be able to get into the factory ECU to do that. I'll have to do some research to see how possible it is to do that.
Travis
FIracing
11-15-2004, 04:58 PM
It's nice to see someone in south louisiana putting some work into our cars :) I'm very interested in an XA kit whenever you're ready to start working on one.
Thanks... I'll let you know if and when I start working on a XA kit..
Travis
FIracing
11-26-2004, 05:41 AM
I have 2 people interested in bringing cars down here... so, in a few months, I should have some good news for you guys. :) I'll post pics/info as they become available..
Travis
GotSkyline
11-26-2004, 05:54 AM
Hey are you looking into buying a car to do up? It would run you a low 20 grand to get it but it would be MUCH worth it. PM me if interested or if you got AIM hit me up or email me at Skionic@yahoo.com whatever is easiest.....sorry not thread jacking
Ashe_WCM
11-26-2004, 04:08 PM
Don't forget to talk to some of the people @ DeepsouthScions.com right in your local area and very freindly ;)
dante_b
11-26-2004, 08:14 PM
hey travis its cool that your showing interest in the scions, i used to have a spec-v and i would read your threads on thevboard.com and b15sentra.net. good luck on your tC project! if you put half the effort you have into turbochargin the spec-V than this should be a badass kit man. ill be looking out for the xA kit if and when you give it a go
to all that are interested in this kit A LOT of great things have been said about FIracing and Travis as well as their turbo kits.
papi4baby
11-30-2004, 12:52 AM
I also used to have a Specv, i was a member atb15 boards, and travis is a great stand up guy, thanks for taking interest travis, and keep up the good work
Soon2HaveAbox
11-30-2004, 04:34 PM
I used to drive a Spec V. Travis definately knows what he is doing, however, from what I have read on the Sentra Forums, the customer service could be a little better. From what I have read in the past, it takes a good bit of time for FI-R to get a kit out to you. Like I said, Travis is very intelligent when it comes to making a car much faster, but the service could be a little better. Once again, I am taking this from other forums, not from personal experience...just a little heads up for my fellow scion owners.
Ryan
FIracing
12-25-2004, 08:09 AM
Still working on this.. I should have something soon for you guys. Still expecting around 275whp reliably on a stock motor for around 3500.00 or so shipped to your door. :) I'll post updates as they come..
Check out the newest tubular turbo manifold that we are building. This is for the SR.. I will be producing these for the TC as well.
Travis
FIracing
12-25-2004, 08:22 AM
I used to drive a Spec V. Travis definately knows what he is doing, however, from what I have read on the Sentra Forums, the customer service could be a little better. From what I have read in the past, it takes a good bit of time for FI-R to get a kit out to you. Like I said, Travis is very intelligent when it comes to making a car much faster, but the service could be a little better. Once again, I am taking this from other forums, not from personal experience...just a little heads up for my fellow scion owners.
Ryan
No doubt.. it used to take us a while to get kits out.. because of problems with our old fabricators. That has long-since been solved though. :)
Travis
cad455
12-25-2004, 03:09 PM
i also have a P10 primera/g20, nice to see an SR nut crossing over to the tC platform :)
best of luck!
grnechory
12-26-2004, 07:03 AM
Okay guys...a little heads up on this fi-r character...
worst customer service ever...doesnt get parts out...imho you would be doing yourself a favor now by discrediting this company...if you venture over to www.b15sentra.net and also on www.thevboard.com youll see that this guy is nothing but deception, immorality, and unlawful business practices... i ordered a kit from this joker back in Nov. 2003 for my spec-v..never recieved...and i signed over ownership of this said kit to another fella' for alot less than i paid...he waited several months and decided he'd do the same deal..this kit has not been completed..also on top of that...NCcentral a guy from thevboard...has waited since october 2003 and hasnt recieved anything...its now almost 2005...a big heads up on this..buyer beware...he has alot of knowledge but his business ethics plain ol' suck the big hairy ones...out of 3 years on these 2 communities...he has approximately 5 guys who have been fully satisfied with his business...NO Exaggeration...approximately 90 % of his business dealings end up in shambles with the customer out alot of money...
i mean its pretty bad when even HIMSELF on the forums over there says "im slow, deal with it" ...imho its a shame. btw travis..how can you be taking on new projects when you cant even finish the ones that are years old? moving on to another forum to con more? seriously....if you invest trust in this company/man youll soon find yourself alot more angry and a few thousand dollars lighter in the wallet
grnechory
12-26-2004, 07:09 AM
I used to drive a Spec V. Travis definately knows what he is doing, however, from what I have read on the Sentra Forums, the customer service could be a little better. From what I have read in the past, it takes a good bit of time for FI-R to get a kit out to you. Like I said, Travis is very intelligent when it comes to making a car much faster, but the service could be a little better. Once again, I am taking this from other forums, not from personal experience...just a little heads up for my fellow scion owners.
Ryan
No doubt.. it used to take us a while to get kits out.. because of problems with our old fabricators. That has long-since been solved though. :)
Travis
lmfao..no it hasnt...
cubanprince1
12-26-2004, 07:26 AM
Well, im the owner of the black spec-v in the picture and i must say....Travis has been awesome with me. The customer service has been great and my car is in his shop as we speak getting an sr20det swap that should be done by the end of the month. In fact, i will post up pics and videos here when done so you guys can see how great Fi-R's work is.
Norlandt
grnechory
12-26-2004, 07:28 AM
you are one of the few bro....actually 1 of the 5. =o) what about the rest of the regular joes who cant invite travis to stay with them and be friends? travis has always selected the certain few he wants to deal with...in other words..complete stuff for...so if you arent one of those selected few..you get dicked around for months...upto including years....and this is known fact...and its still a problem to this date...visit the boards...i garaunteed most of you guys would be baffled this guy is even still allowed to post about his business...as a matter of fact. on www.b15sentra.net he ISNT even allowed to post directly or indirectly about his business or attempt to sale anything.. that alone should tell you something!
a very healthy plump thumbs down for this...BUYER BEWARE BIG TIME!
GOSH IM GETTING TIRED OF FINDING THESE! WILL THEY END! LMFAO..seriously...you see my point?
hal9000
12-26-2004, 09:00 AM
my brain hurts after reading all that.
TheKnown
12-26-2004, 09:19 AM
ummmm..... k. that pretty much..... uhhhh..... made my decision for me right there. and im pretty sure it just made up the minds of about everyone who bothers to read this forum. nice effort travis. your pictures are pretty. but..... id never give you a dollar
hotbox05
12-26-2004, 09:25 AM
holy ____ people like that are still in business? how about a couple guys with alot of money go out and buy his kits and then when he doesnt send you get together with the guys from the nissan forums and do a class action suit or just go and beat em silly. not cool at all. whether there's mix ups or not all those people cannot be wrong. screwing people is always a very bad way to do business. it is however a way to lose any future customers as well as , get sued , go to jail , end up in the hospital.
FIracing
12-26-2004, 08:15 PM
Thanks Ryan..
Ok guys, let me give you a little insight on this. Ryan, is a troll, who has taken it upon himself, to try and ruin my business in any way, shape, or form possible. Yes, we DID have some issues back in the day. We are not perfect.
Every single one of those threads that you posted, with the exception of 2 of people, have been resolved. Actually, I am good friends with them now and a few have actually done more business with me after. Dion (Chills), and (Josh) Southernmiss45, both ripped me off.. and you know it. You know the circumstances of each, and yet you post thier side of the story only. Matter of fact, when Josh gets back from Iraq, he will have to answer to the MP's over there for writing me a 1200.00 worthless check. Dion, there's not much that I can do.. since he is in Canada. I'll take that as a 3K lesson learned.
Guys, I know that the stuff Ryan posted looks bad.. And I'm not going to to say that it's not true to an extent. But, what it comes down to, is that I was short handed, and had some issues getting things done on time. We had way more work than we could get done. However, I have taken steps to ensure that this doesn't happen again, and Ryan knows that. He is merely trying to start trouble.
Travis
FIracing
12-26-2004, 08:18 PM
holy ____ people like that are still in business? how about a couple guys with alot of money go out and buy his kits and then when he doesnt send you get together with the guys from the nissan forums and do a class action suit or just go and beat em silly. not cool at all. whether there's mix ups or not all those people cannot be wrong. screwing people is always a very bad way to do business. it is however a way to lose any future customers as well as , get sued , go to jail , end up in the hospital.
It's not going to happen like that.. because it's not as big of a deal as he's trying to make it out as. I've been in business for almost 4 years.. If I were out to just screw people over... I wouldn't still be in business. The ONLY problem that we've ever had, is that we couldn't get the material needed from the fabricators.. and we just didn't have enough hands to get it all done. I used to have to wait months and months just to get stuff fabbed up from our jigs. It's not even like that anymore.. Like I said, Ryan is posting one side of the story, and dragging up issues that were a year+ ago.
Travis
grnechory
12-26-2004, 08:27 PM
well take a look at his feedback and you make the decision...most of that stuff is pretty recent as well...and even the old stuff is still going on to this date. like said..ALL these customers cant be wrong.
ScionTCTrav
12-26-2004, 08:39 PM
Hey Travis, Whats up? I can speak for alota people right now, we would all be interested in a Turbo Kit for the TC..I've been doing alota research on companies and their Turbo Kits, and as af right now there is not Turbo Kit out for the TC, there are many that have been showed but not yet released..
Im almost tempted to go to a custom turbo shop and get 1 done! LOL But I know it'll be more..
Im looking for either a T3 or T4 setup w/ Front Mount.
Anything smaller I might get depended on the numbers..Keep us informed.. Thanks Travis.
FIracing
12-26-2004, 08:46 PM
No one said that they were wrong Ryan.. I admit that we had some issues. The ONLY thing that went wrong, was that it took us a long time to get turbo kits out. The circumstances were not directly our own doing though, and you know that. Trying to paint me as a crook, is wrong. I have always delivered to my customers.. It may have taken a while, but 99% of them are very happy in the end, and like I said.. a lot of them come back for more stuff later. You can ask anyone who's ever met me, or anyone who's ever seen my shop. I am dedicated to my work.
We have taken steps to ensure that this doesn't happen anymore. We are using a very reliable fab shop to build our stuff.
grnechory
12-26-2004, 08:54 PM
bro 99 percent of them arent happy...100 percent of them are relieved they got anything to show...but the majority doesnt get squat...the kit i ordered..its not done...NCcentral..its not done..nismo-vspec..he even had to post to get ahold of you..of course you are gonna be easy to get ahold of and post on this forum now...you dont have these poor guys money....not to mention your bad rep of business ethics on every forum you post on...that goes for sr20forums.com www.thevboard.com www.b15sentra.net ( which he isnt even allowed to advertise his business directly or indirectly any longer)....chills isnt friends with you...i just talked to him a week ago...he's dropping your 'ish into collections ...that doesnt seem too friendly to me....btw his car still hasnt ran...as a matter of fact i had more miles this week on my car than he's had on his car in the past year...but irregardless your business practices are unethical and unlawful...the ONLY reason matt mcfalls got his kit was b/c he threatened to persue legal advise and go through with it...he's not even happy with his project..most of the kit has had to be fixed. he waited since oct/nov of 2003...most of that stuff i posted is STILL going on today...its just everything is locked regarding the issues b/c of the flame wars that generally follow...if ANYONE wants all the documentation..feel free to AIM me Ryan811869 i got a wheel barrel full of stuff that supports my claims. other than conning elaboration to get your money or your support.
imho its kinda funny in away
travis has been pitching this line of bull for over a year..."trying to turn my business around" ...line after line after line of this...and you can see from the links i provided about innocent victims of this immoral loony bin travis calls a compnay...
he gets on here and calls me a troll b/c i simply state the reason why and provide proof his is unlawful business practices.. i mean there comes a point in time when one reaches that point when they believe they arent going to recieve anything? what is the acceptable time to wait travis? a year for a product said to be delivered in 4 to 6 weeks? youve had reputable shops doing your fabbing from the beginging..hotshot...protech...vrs at one point..and still nothing got done...b/c its quite obvious the customers money is going some where else instead of the parts requested...
im also a coward b/c i dont talk big and bad on AOL instant messenger about wanting to take the time out and fist fight with him...
FIracing
12-26-2004, 09:00 PM
That's not even remotely true Ryan... You don't know what goes on here.. You know of a handful of transactions that went bad over the last few years because people posted it on the internet. You don't see the other stuff that comes through my shop.. you don't see the engine work, the tranny work, the cars that we build. I never said that I was friends with Dion.. lol.. I wouldn't want to be. And he has nothing to "drop into collections". He's been saying that on the forums for a year now to make me look bad.. ;) The bottom line is.. I have an open invoice for 3K with his name on it. I kept some of his stock parts from his car as collateral. And you'd better believe that he won't see those back until this invoice is paid.
I never knew that Matt was pursuing legal action against me. I sent him his kit because it was finished. Unless he is bieng untruthful with me, he loves the kit. Tell me, what had to be fixed in his kit?
Travis
cubanprince1
12-26-2004, 09:02 PM
Heh, ryan is an idiot guys. He has a personal problem with travis and fi-r. I can truly say that my experience with fi-r has been better than i ever expected it to be. I ordered a standard turbo kit for my spec-v from travis in february of 2003 and it was awesome. I even flew Travis down here to do the install for me. Three months ago i decided i needed more power so i drove from Tampa,Fl to New Orleans, LA and dropped off my car so FI-R could build my engine and make it a 400 whp monster. As a result me and Travis became great friends and till this day we talk to each other almost everyday. The guy is an awesome person and is very fair. He hooked me up with alot of stuff, from custom made tubular manifold to a tec 2 standalone for a very very cheap price. I must say that if it wasnt for Travis i couldnt have built my engine. He is a little slow sometimes but thats because he works alone. That is also why his work and products are so awesome, because he takes his time and does things right.
Norlandt
cubanprince1
12-26-2004, 09:06 PM
Wait a second. I personally know Matt and am friends with him and i can honestly say that he is happier than ever. I have never seen him this excited before. There was nothign wrong with his kit! In fact, his kit is better than mines ever was. I saw alot of improvement. Your full of it ryan. Please stop this nonsense.
Norlandt
Enemigo
12-26-2004, 09:07 PM
About FI-R...
My name is Jose and i owned a SR20 Sentra.. Very widely known. I've been around ever since 2000 and knew Travis for an equal amount of years since his business has opened. Yes, i must admit, in the beginning it was kinda rocky and was hard to satisfy the crave of Boost for just 1 guy. Everyone expected parts to be shipped asap when in reality it wasn't possible. How can 1 guy fabricate, produce and install turbo kits for cars within a resonable time? Ever heard of R&D? it takes time. I had purchased a kit from Travis myself and this was a long time ago when he was a one business man.. so i understood. After i got my parts, had them installed and worked perfect. I've never felt better with a Turbo charged car before. I have many friends and dealings with Travis. His company is up to par and well respected in the Nissan Comminity. I own a Nissan Skyline now and will be worked by Travis as well. He is well diversed and educated in engines. I can have many testimonials to prove his work ethics.
Guys you have to understand that businesse's in its infancy is sometimes hard to deal with, but now with its growing knowlege and new fabricators, it will be booming.. Be on the lookout for Team Theory on the east coast with a Skyline and Sentra with FI-R on it. The sentra itself will be pushing over 700+ HP.. all Built by Travis.. If you continue to doubt his work, e-mail me personally at jdmb15@yahoo.com
I will answer any questions or concern you may have. Once again, i will praise his work beause he's the only guy who's putting effort into his work and sometimes gets a little carried away and builds beasts!.. Good work Trav.. you have many friends and supporters here!.
Jose
grnechory
12-26-2004, 09:08 PM
That's not even remotely true Ryan... You don't know what goes on here.. You know of a handful of transactions that went bad over the last few years because people posted it on the internet. You don't see the other stuff that comes through my shop.. you don't see the engine work, the tranny work, the cars that we build. I never said that I was friends with Dion.. lol.. I wouldn't want to be. And he has nothing to "drop into collections". He's been saying that on the forums for a year now to make me look bad.. ;) The bottom line is.. I have an open invoice for 3K with his name on it. I kept some of his stock parts from his car as collateral. And you'd better believe that he won't see those back until this invoice is paid.
I never knew that Matt was pursuing legal action against me. I sent him his kit because it was finished. Unless he is bieng untruthful with me, he loves the kit. Tell me, what had to be fixed in his kit?
Travis
lmfao...now you talk about untrue...you knew good and well...he plainly told you..and not only that..i HAVE the conversations to prove otherwise...and they arent mine...its between you and him...
also take a look at this
this is what the LOUISIANA ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS TO SAY ABOUT FI-R.COM
take a good look at all this piling evidence against this company..and hopefully you see past the BS this man is feeding you guys...and look at what the REAL customers say..not the biased selected few friends who do recieve anything....
cubanprince1
12-26-2004, 09:16 PM
That's not even remotely true Ryan... You don't know what goes on here.. You know of a handful of transactions that went bad over the last few years because people posted it on the internet. You don't see the other stuff that comes through my shop.. you don't see the engine work, the tranny work, the cars that we build. I never said that I was friends with Dion.. lol.. I wouldn't want to be. And he has nothing to "drop into collections". He's been saying that on the forums for a year now to make me look bad.. ;) The bottom line is.. I have an open invoice for 3K with his name on it. I kept some of his stock parts from his car as collateral. And you'd better believe that he won't see those back until this invoice is paid.
I never knew that Matt was pursuing legal action against me. I sent him his kit because it was finished. Unless he is bieng untruthful with me, he loves the kit. Tell me, what had to be fixed in his kit?
Travis
lmfao...now you talk about untrue...you knew good and well...he plainly told you..and not only that..i HAVE the conversations to prove otherwise...and they arent mine...its between you and him...
also take a look at this
this is what the LOUISIANA ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS TO SAY ABOUT FI-R.COM
take a good look at all this piling evidence against this company..and hopefully you see past the BS this man is feeding you guys...and look at what the REAL customers say..not the biased selected few friends who do recieve anything....
Real customers? So now im not a real customer? So people who arent happy are the "real customers". LOL That right there shows that it is a personal problem man. We understand that you dont like fi-r and thats fine because everyone has the right to state their opinion. But you have now taken it to another level man. You are truly trying to do all you can to hurt and make fi-r look bad. I can honestly say that the only person i trust with my car is travis. I will drive to new orleans to get my car worked on by fi-r 100 times if i need to. Thats how good this company is. Im sorry but this is getting out of hand ryan. You are too old for this. I would be imbarrased.
Norlandt
Enemigo
12-26-2004, 09:19 PM
Nice chop... Although, if a company was or filed for Bankruptcy, then he wouldn't be in business would he..
I say Ryan, why are you hating? No reason to hate on someone who is trying!, probably doing more for the Scion comminity than you are. Come take a ride in the Skyline.. and have some coffee, lets talk about it..
Jose
grnechory
12-26-2004, 09:20 PM
bro fi-r has made itself look bad..im just protecting the innocent guys over here who dont know about other dealings on the other forums...point in case travis selects which customers he wants to do things for...that is KNOWN fact...if you are some joe average from cali or where ever and not able to meet travis, nothing gets done..money is lost.
grnechory
12-26-2004, 09:21 PM
Nice chop... Although, if a company was or filed for Bankruptcy, then he wouldn't be in business would he..
I say Ryan, why are you hating? No reason to hate on someone who is trying!, probably doing more for the Scion comminity than you are. Come take a ride in the Skyline.. and have some coffee, lets talk about it..
Jose
bro...that wasnt a chop...1. thats a real letter. 2. you can still opperate your business under bankruptcy, but you are under the authority of the court...basically nobody can sue him if he's under this protection.
FIracing
12-26-2004, 09:21 PM
That's not even remotely true Ryan... You don't know what goes on here.. You know of a handful of transactions that went bad over the last few years because people posted it on the internet. You don't see the other stuff that comes through my shop.. you don't see the engine work, the tranny work, the cars that we build. I never said that I was friends with Dion.. lol.. I wouldn't want to be. And he has nothing to "drop into collections". He's been saying that on the forums for a year now to make me look bad.. ;) The bottom line is.. I have an open invoice for 3K with his name on it. I kept some of his stock parts from his car as collateral. And you'd better believe that he won't see those back until this invoice is paid.
I never knew that Matt was pursuing legal action against me. I sent him his kit because it was finished. Unless he is bieng untruthful with me, he loves the kit. Tell me, what had to be fixed in his kit?
Travis
lmfao...now you talk about untrue...you knew good and well...he plainly told you..and not only that..i HAVE the conversations to prove otherwise...and they arent mine...its between you and him...
also take a look at this
this is what the LOUISIANA ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS TO SAY ABOUT FI-R.COM
take a good look at all this piling evidence against this company..and hopefully you see past the BS this man is feeding you guys...and look at what the REAL customers say..not the biased selected few friends who do recieve anything....
Ah.. the notorious "fake letter" picture. You guys sure do go to big lengths to make me look bad. Moved? We've been at the same place for almost a year. 229 Sunset Ave. Houma, LA 70360. Bankruptcy? Do I need to post a pic of my credit report to show how untrue that is? I guess I could type up a letter about a company and take a pic of it too if I wanted.. lol..
So, any customer that posts anything good about my company doesn't count Ryan? Is that what you're saying? lol.. The good FAR outwieghs the bad. And 9 times out of 10, a customer will only post on the internet if they had a bad dealing with someone.
Travis
Enemigo
12-26-2004, 09:23 PM
Well, its seems to me your in NC.. i don't think he would have turned you down.. unless you wanted to Turbocharge a damn Geo with 3 cyliders... lol..
You just need to let people experience things for themselves.. going all out and searching the web is just childish and lame. Stop being the Scion communities buffer from life.. let them live..
Jose
cubanprince1
12-26-2004, 09:27 PM
Well, its seems to me your in NC.. i don't think he would have turned you down.. unless you wanted to Turbocharge a damn Geo with 3 cyliders... lol..
You just need to let people experience things for themselves.. going all out and searching the web is just childish and lame. Stop being the Scion communities buffer from life.. let them live..
Jose
+1
grnechory
12-26-2004, 09:27 PM
i didnt search the web...lol and its kinda ironic that all this info is either not true, fraudelant, fake or some bs regarding travis...notice the seal? and you guys would be very suprised from who it came from...not me of course.
btw ive been on this forum quietly for a year.. to say that i searched this out? sure didnt..came to me. thanks. and yes im in NC...the fact is i bought a turbo kit from travis...we even had a deal where he basically had 3 months to deliver...i gave him a deposit in november and the rest would be due at the end of jan when the kit was supposedly to be completed...but the weird instance was..if i didnt have the payment in full by the endo f that time..my deposit would not be refunded and i wouldnt get a kit for the price...i gave travis the benefit of the doubt..i trusted this man...like so many others who ended up getting stiffed...needles to say this kit isnt done to date.
FIracing
12-26-2004, 09:27 PM
I'll tell you guys what...
Just to prove that I am a good guy.. I will build several kits and stock them. If you guys feel uncomfortable about sending me money up front.. I'll send the kit COD. That way, you have nothing to worry about.
Like I said.. I'm not a crook.. we just got behind on some stuff, and people had to wait long periods of time. It wasn't done intentionally, but it did upset a few people.
Travis
SR20DEvlyn
12-26-2004, 09:29 PM
Honestly, I'm embarassed to belong to the same board as most of you and despite not liking the Scion cosmetically I wish I was on this side of the enthusiast community at this point in time. For those Scion forum members that are continuing to read this thread I think you are capable of making an intelligent decision based on what those that stood up for Travis said and reading over the links posted by Ryan. Ryan obviously didn't troll this thread, he posted valid links of feedback on the company. Read them, read what was posted here, and make your own decision, I'm sure you guys are capable of that.
As for those of you ranting on Ryan, saying he has no reason... thats untrue and you guys know it. He was one of Travis' customers and had a very bad experience in his mind, he took a loss and sold the kit since he hadn't received the kit in a very long time. The immaturity needs to stop on both sides, Ryan should have cross linked the threads and said nothing else, they speak for themselves. And attacking him for doing so is ridiculous, they speak for themselves, you guys can defend each situation however you see fit, but don't attack him for posting them.
To add, just so everyone here is aware, the built QR25 motors from Forced Induction Racing that he used as part of his experience on the original post, one of them is barely running after thousands of expenses afterwards by another company attempting to fix the problems that were caused in a build that went far above the quoted price and quoted timeframe at a large expense to both the owner and Travis, it was a bad deal on both sides. The second built motor is also not running, and has been damaged twice now, though to be honest, both times were apparently not directly related to Travis.
FIracing
12-26-2004, 09:29 PM
i didnt search the web...lol and its kinda ironic that all this info is either not true, fraudelant, fake or some bs regarding travis...notice the seal? and you guys would be very suprised from who it came from...not me of course.
btw ive been on this forum quietly for a year.. to say that i searched this out? sure didnt..came to me. thanks. and yes im in NC...the fact is i bought a turbo kit from travis...we even had a deal where he basically had 3 months to deliver...i gave him a deposit in november and the rest would be due at the end of jan when the kit was supposedly to be completed...but the weird instance was..if i didnt have the payment in full by the endo f that time..my deposit would not be refunded and i wouldnt get a kit for the price...i gave travis the benefit of the doubt..i trusted this man...like so many others who ended up getting stiffed...needles to say this kit isnt done to date.
Actually, it's been done... I confused you with someone else. No one is saying that people didn't have valid complaints about waiting for turbo kits.. why do you keep saying that? Yes, you had to wait for your kit.. and you are mad about it.. That's what this is all about.
Travis
grnechory
12-26-2004, 09:32 PM
its not done bro... i got resources..quit LYING...if its done why isnt it SHIPPED? seeing how long you can wait? that way possibly you can sell this off to another customer as well?
Enemigo
12-26-2004, 09:34 PM
Ahh, yes a personal gripe.. now it all makes sense. Ryan, anyone in their right mind would do the same. If he is fabricating a kit, and spengin money on custom products to fit your need... how the heck will you get a refund? Whats he gunna do with those parts? Eat them? I can put you in contact with many companies that have the same policy. Atleast he started it with just a deposit, but ofcourse you dont' see that. Call HKS, Call Greddy, Call any large company and tell them to build you a kit with a deposit... when they laugh.. please call me.. so i can say "I told you so!"
Dude, stop crying... Your a grown man. :roll:
Jose
FIracing
12-26-2004, 09:35 PM
To add, just so everyone here is aware, the built QR25 motors from Forced Induction Racing that he used as part of his experience on the original post, one of them is barely running after thousands of expenses afterwards by another company attempting to fix the problems that were caused in a build that went far above the quoted price and quoted timeframe at a large expense to both the owner and Travis, it was a bad deal on both sides. The second built motor is also not running, and has been damaged twice now, though to be honest, both times were apparently not directly related to Travis.
Actually, the engine is fine.. Dion had problems with the wiring.. after the shop that he took it to back home for final tuning... decided to go in and rewire everything. That shop tried to make money from him.. and told him that the wiring was "inadequate". Funny thing is... it never had a problem with wiring when I drove it home from Little Rock, AR.. which is about 500 miles. That same shop.. is going around, telling people that they built the motor, and car in-house. I even emailed them, and got that same response. One shop bad mouthing another shop to get ahead.. it's nothing new. His car ran fine, and the engine is perfect.
Norlandt's motor had some issues.. they weren't my fault at all. I have the motor at the shop right now.
Who else have you seen who has built 500hp QR's? No one... There are bound to be issues when you are dealing with something of this magnitude. However, the problems we've had were minor, and were worked out.
Travis
grnechory
12-26-2004, 09:36 PM
bro...its not that...the KIT ISNT DONE! its been a YEAR..its almost 2005 w/ absolutely jack crap to show for the money. thta is the GRIPE! that will always be the GRIPE..not only with me...but most of travis's customers.
FIracing
12-26-2004, 09:37 PM
Dude, stop crying... Your a grown man. :roll:
Apparently not...
grnechory
12-26-2004, 09:37 PM
the evidence speaks for itself...travis has been pitching this " im turning my company around" now for years...if you guys dont see it..you deserve to lose your money from this guy.
con-artistry 101 here guys..dont fall for it.
FIracing
12-26-2004, 09:39 PM
bro...its not that...the KIT ISNT DONE! its been a YEAR..its almost 2005 w/ absolutely jack crap to show for the money. thta is the GRIPE! that will always be the GRIPE..not only with me...but most of travis's customers.
That's not true.. He has 90% of the kit there.. I just have to send him a few more things.. which I am waiting on to be completed. He's been having those other parts.. for almost 4 months.
Travis
FIracing
12-26-2004, 09:40 PM
the evidence speaks for itself...travis has been pitching this " im turning my company around" now for years...if you guys dont see it..you deserve to lose your money from this guy.
con-artistry 101 here guys..dont fall for it.
So tell me something? If I'm a "con artist".. then why am I not in jail? All you are doing.. is drumming up as much stuff as you can find on the net about me. In reality.. a few complaints from people over a 3 year span.. isn't too shabby. I am not denying the fact that we had problems. We did.. but those have been rectified.
Travis
FIracing
12-26-2004, 09:41 PM
So, if I send these guys a complete kit via COD... would that still make me a con artist Ryan? I'll do that just to prove my point (and my business).
Travis
Enemigo
12-26-2004, 09:43 PM
Ryan, just stop complaining.. you made your point.. whats the sense of draggin this on? There is no sense.. People had to wait for kits yes... You think this is Greddy? You think Travis has 100 little japanese men running around building kits? (which would be sooo funny).. NO he doesn't. I bet when you get your kit, you will forget it all. They all do. If you don't want it anymore, sell it on ebay. Just stop telling people what to do, you've warned them.. Let the grown-ups make thier own decision. Geeze.. u remind me of Napoleon Dynomite... GEEEEEEEEEZZZEEEEEEE! :lol:
Jose
grnechory
12-26-2004, 09:51 PM
well i believe these scion guys can make an informed decision on what is already posted...those links are hard a FEW btw...that was no where near the amount that i found...i gave up posting...and that was plenty to read.
SR20DEvlyn
12-26-2004, 09:55 PM
In reality.. a few complaints from people over a 3 year span.. isn't too shabby. I am not denying the fact that we had problems. We did.. but those have been rectified.
Travis
Travis, in one of the threads on b15 for your customers you stated that all people could find are half a dozen members with actual issues with Forced Induction Racing. In that same thread you stated that you had sold 22 kits, with only half or slightly more coming from the forums (b15 and v-board). If your idea of a satisfactory business is that 50% of your customers are piping mad on the forums months after deadlines are past and every thread you post having someone asking where their parts are, then perhaps you should just state that on your webpage.
Enemigo, stop flaming him for posting his feelings on the company and maybe he would be able to stop responding. The going back and forth with name calling is very childish and looks bad for the community as a whole. Again, there was nothing wrong with the links he posted, they are honest feedback from customers of the company other than himself. Personal attacks turned this thread into what it was, and this wasn't Ryan's fault alone. You posted your feelings about Forced Induction Racing, be done with it.
FIracing
12-26-2004, 10:05 PM
6 out of 22 is 50%? Like I said.. I'm not perfect.
I'm not taking sides.... jusst wanted to be part of the action....
grnechory
12-26-2004, 10:10 PM
6 out of 22 is 50%? Like I said.. I'm not perfect.
Travis
travis you dont have to be perfect to have a reputable business...like said previously once before...where there is smoke...there is fire...you dont see hardly any reputable company that does custom work get reamed in the matter you have w/o cause and effect..you screw people...you get the aftermath....
but irregardless ....if you say you are slow...you should offer a refund plain and simple...when you inform a customer 4 to 6 weeks for something then it takes 8 to 12 months...you need to have a course of action ...but you refuse to have any recourse to your poor customer service and business ethics...instead you hold the customers money hostage and force them to wait..unless they lose a crap load of money selling to someone else who can put a fresh new set of legs on the waiting game.
I'm not taking sides.... jusst wanted to be part of the action....
lmfao... :D btw nice tc 8)
SR20DEvlyn
12-26-2004, 10:14 PM
6 out of 22 is 50%? Like I said.. I'm not perfect.
Travis
If half or slightly more than half of your customers are from the boards, the number of forum customers is 12-14. So yes, 6 of those 12-14 customers that are on the boards is in the neighborhood of 50%.
FIracing
12-26-2004, 10:16 PM
You didn't answer my question Ryan...
If I send out complete turbo kits via COD.. does that still mean that I'm a con artist? ;)
Travis
FIracing
12-26-2004, 10:17 PM
6 out of 22 is 50%? Like I said.. I'm not perfect.
Travis
If half or slightly more than half of your customers are from the boards, the number of forum customers is 12-14. So yes, 6 of those 12-14 customers that are on the boards is in the neighborhood of 50%.
Statistics prove that most people will post on the net only if they have been wronged, or had a bad experience. So, I don't go by just forum members a lone when I look at numbers.
Travis
SR20DEvlyn
12-26-2004, 10:22 PM
6 out of 22 is 50%? Like I said.. I'm not perfect.
Travis
If half or slightly more than half of your customers are from the boards, the number of forum customers is 12-14. So yes, 6 of those 12-14 customers that are on the boards is in the neighborhood of 50%.
Statistics prove that most people will post on the net only if they have been wronged, or had a bad experience. So, I don't go by just forum members a lone when I look at numbers.
Travis
Umm... right... I guess when comparing 27% to 50% unsastisfied customers, suddenly things look much better for FIR.
If you were able to send out the kits COD, obviously that would please the Scion members. If this were possible, why can't you fulfill the remaining kits for the B15 that have been outstanding orders for quite some time and paid for?
grnechory
12-26-2004, 10:22 PM
lol you are dealing on the internet forums..those #'s should be taken heavily as they would offer a valid comparison..but anyways .THAT is a crappy ratio...thats like bidding on ebay with someone with a 50 percent feed back rating...you send a kit cod? like that will ever happen...as you said yourself..you build these things to order...unless there is another reason why you dont refund?
FIracing
12-26-2004, 10:23 PM
Well, to sum this up... If you feel uncomfortable with sending me your money up front.. I will send out a kit to you via COD, at no extra charge to you. If you want to discuss anything as far as details, please PM me, or give me a call at 985-713-1542.
Travis
FIracing
12-26-2004, 10:25 PM
6 out of 22 is 50%? Like I said.. I'm not perfect.
Travis
If half or slightly more than half of your customers are from the boards, the number of forum customers is 12-14. So yes, 6 of those 12-14 customers that are on the boards is in the neighborhood of 50%.
Statistics prove that most people will post on the net only if they have been wronged, or had a bad experience. So, I don't go by just forum members a lone when I look at numbers.
Travis
Umm... right... I guess when comparing 27% to 50% unsastisfied customers, suddenly things look much better for FIR.
If you were able to send out the kits COD, obviously that would please the Scion members. If this were possible, why can't you fulfill the remaining kits for the B15 that have been outstanding orders for quite some time and paid for?
I AM! lol.. that's what you guys don't get. I have 2 more kits to take care of. Why do you think I asked Jamie at PTI for help? He is now helping with getting the fabrication done. I haven't realy taken anymore orders for kits.. because I want to get these cleared up first.
Every time that I try to get things straightened out, people have to come in like this, and ruin it.
Travis
grnechory
12-26-2004, 10:29 PM
Every time that I try to get things straightened out, people have to come in like this, and ruin it.
Travis
lmfao..this is the classic travis trying to make the unknowledgable feel bad for him and sympathize for something thats totally his fault....
man you have been trying to do this so called "staightening out" for 2 years..if it hasnt happened by now...maybe you should try a different profession?
D31usion
12-26-2004, 10:30 PM
just wanted to add... con artists usually exploit a weakness in their victim. Using the victim's desire in order to profit. Sacrafice a little.... gain a lot more...
I'd say COD'ing a few turbo kit's is a small sacrafice...
FIracing
12-26-2004, 10:33 PM
If you think that way.. I'll do them all COD.. how's that? I have no desire to rip anyone off. And if you go in on the boards and look around.. EVERY SINGLE person, has always gotten thier stuff from me. Not ONCE have I ever taken someone's money, and not delivered.
Travis
FIracing
12-26-2004, 10:35 PM
Every time that I try to get things straightened out, people have to come in like this, and ruin it.
Travis
lmfao..this is the classic travis trying to make the unknowledgable feel bad for him and sympathize for something thats totally his fault....
man you have been trying to do this so called "staightening out" for 2 years..if it hasnt happened by now...maybe you should try a different profession?
No, this is Travis, fed up with people like you, who blow things out of proportion, and travel around on forums to bad mouth me. My offer still stands too btw.. Of course, you're too much of a coward to accept it.
Why do I need to try a different profession? I've been doing this, succesfully for almost 4 years. People don't stay in business for that long by "ripping people off".
Travis
grnechory
12-26-2004, 10:39 PM
bro...if you are having to get bailed out by another company...and you arent taking anymore orders on a turbo kit..how in the heck do you plan to get this off the ground eh? not making alot of sense! if yo uhave to have help to complete crap thats been in the basket waiting for over a year...to the point where you supposedly say you arent taking orders on a turbo kit...why take orders on this turbo kit? just b/c its a different car? same principle of boost here...you still need the parts fabbed...and its odd how you can build these so called motors in so long..have manifolds fabbed up for them..but yet you supposedly need help for the turbo kits that need fabbing..bro youve been called out...youve been measured...and the evidence against you is overwhelming.
FIracing
12-26-2004, 10:44 PM
bro...if you are having to get bailed out by another company...and you arent taking anymore orders on a turbo kit..how in the heck do you plan to get this off the ground eh? not making alot of sense! if yo uhave to have help to complete crap thats been in the basket waiting for over a year...to the point where you supposedly say you arent taking orders on a turbo kit...why take orders on this turbo kit? just b/c its a different car? same principle of boost here...you still need the parts fabbed...and its odd how you can build these so called motors in so long..have manifolds fabbed up for them..but yet you supposedly need help for the turbo kits that need fabbing..bro youve been called out...youve been measured...and the evidence against you is overwhelming.
Bailed out? We subcontract our fabrication over to companies to get it done. Almost every turbo kit manufacturer does this.. including PTI. We are using the same company that they are using. How is that getting "bailed out"?
When I build custom stuff in the shop.. that's exactly what it is. "Custom". Turbo kits are different.. they are fabricated from "jigs" that are made from the test car. We don't have the skill/tooling needed to mass produce parts from jigs. It's not rocket science to figure that out.. of course, you wouldn't know anything about running a shop.
Called out? By who? You? lol.. All you have proven is that you are a lunatic, who will go to any lengths to try and ruin someone. By stating the fact that I will send these out COD, to prove you wrong, and prove my business, it squashes anything that you are trying to drum up. Thanks for trying though.. and better luck next time.
Travis
FIracing
12-26-2004, 10:46 PM
bro...if you are having to get bailed out by another company...and you arent taking anymore orders on a turbo kit..how in the heck do you plan to get this off the ground eh?
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.. when I have several kits in stock, and ready for COD shipments. ;)
Travis
grnechory
12-26-2004, 10:50 PM
it came from your own mouth! you said that you were recieving help from jamie at PTI! to finish up these so called kits....you say you are supposedly finishing up...if you need help with this fabrication...and arent taking any more orders on the se-r kit b/c of this...how can you realistically say you are going to cod orders out that are built to order, when you cant even complete the crap youve had on hold since the end of 2003..and holding customers money hostage by not allowing refunds...you say you cod..i wont believe that till i see it...and it came from your own mouth several times..you build these to order...if you build these to order...how can you possibly cod ? the ONLY time someone gets a response from you is when the customer has been on the forum _____ing and moaning b/c they havnet recieved anything from you or word from you in months...then they get these poor excuses about your wife...my cable internet was down....i fell of a truck...bs why you need extra time...like i said ...i believe these scion guys have alot better heads on their shoulder as they wouldnt have a reason to sack ride your business like a few guys do on the sentra forums...i believe they will make an informed decision based upon real testimoy of real customers thats been well documented..
FIracing
12-26-2004, 11:08 PM
Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. ;) I mean, hell, a complete turbo kit, shipped to your door, with no risk? Sounds pretty good to me. ;)
Travis
George
12-26-2004, 11:24 PM
I've locked this thread because the argument has gone circular.
Two pieces of advice with buying expensive stuff from folks you don't know:
1. COD means you pay _before_ you inspect the contents of the box. COD is no guarantee that the box will contain the goods that you ordered.