Hi scion experts, just wanted to know if the tC is going to have a limited slip differential? 200 hp, high torque, high dicplacement (2.4 litres) seems like a limited slip would be quite helpful. Man, if it does have a limited slip differential it truly is a great deal (the lack of which, on the Dodge SRT-4, is the car's the biggest drawback).

It doesnt have 200 hp....it has like 160 and I seriously doubt it about the limited slip

Looking at this press kit and reading the info on the net I haven't seen any mention of a limited slip on the TC. Would be great though.

I agree it would make for a awesome road course car....looking at the styling i bet it has a decent center of gravity too

Ahhh yes dinkjs, it has 160 naturally aspirated, but 200+ (supposedly) with the TRD supercharger option. And only 200 hp, out of 2.4 litres, means that there is a lot of Low end torque the SC will most likely produce.

We'll see...

I bet the Charger wont be coming out till 2005 I bet.....just because they say there going to make it doesnt mean they will.....they first have to see what kind of numbers with cars being sold first....no reason to make aftermarket parts for a car that sells like crap....but the tC wont sell like crap....it will make honda eat its crap

i doubt the tC will have a lsd. you would be able to pick one up later through the aftermarket support.

2004 SRT-4 comes standard with limited slip now. the 03 was the only model that didn't

Most likely Quaife will make one.....and possibly Phantom Grip

I had no idea that the 2004 SRT-4 came with a limited slip now!

yea and some serious horsepower too...I still wouldnt buy one though....

:oops: Ok, dumb question here, What in the world is limited slip and why does it matter?

yea and some serious horsepower too...I still wouldnt buy one though....

Doesn't Dodge have a Bad rep for their transmissions?

Ok, dumb question here, What in the world is limited slip
It think its the new feature found in the 2004 SRT-4. I think :P

Pablo xB, a limited slip differential (LSD) basically allows for torque to be aplied in different amounts to each respective wheel that is driven by the engine. An Open Differential, which the tC most likely has, always applies the same amount of torque to each wheel. So, if one loses traction (and overcomes the friction of the driving survace) wheels that are driven by an Open Differential will simply spin, while a LSD will lessen the amount of torque in order to maintain traction.

A LSD basicaly allows for torquey engines (which the supercharged 2.4 might have) to better maintain traction on a driving surface. When one tire begins to spin freely, a limited slip helps by applying more power to a wheel that does have traction.

Oh cool. In a way isn't that similar to what the xB does?

Does an LSD also help to reduce torque steer?

Pablo xB- (I may be wrong but...) I believe that the xB has a "Vehicle Skid Control" System, which is basically a computer controlled application of breaking to each individual wheel and overide of manual throttle contol. It only governs the application of the breaks and throttle in order to maintain stability. It does not, however, have a LSD.

quadraphonic- I am not sure if a LSD will affect "torque steer". Torque steer is mainly caused by the desire for front wheel drive cars to "straighten out" when the wheel is turned during acceleration (the ripping of the wheel from your hands)... well, that an unequal-length front drive shafts (which have plagued most japanese fwd cars). This, among other things, causes the steering wheel to jerk to the left or right.

as far as when the supercharged tc comes out...i think it will be close to the release...they have already developed that s/c for the 4 cyl solara.... you can buy it through your dealership...so y not make it a dealer installed option???? if not...ill buy one from trd and put it on myslef!!!! .....have a toyota master diag tech as a father pays off :lol:

editing my previous response...there is no 2.4 l supercharger yet available through trd usa...however i think it will be available when the vehicle is released so that potential customers of the s/c do not get impatient and go elsewhere

http://www.tctunerz.com/content/view/101/2/ <-- they sell it.

here you go everything nobody ever wanted to know about a limited slip differential. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm

The ScionSpeed Turbo Scion has an upgraded clutch, lightened Flywheel, and a Phantom Grip LSD... these are going to be avialable for sale soon.

From their site:
In an effort to bring the most up to date, innovative and reliable parts to the Scion Community, we will now offer a full line of Clutch Master Clutches and Phantom Grip Limited Slip Conversion Kits. All the custom pieces in this round of modifications will also be for sale through www.scionspeed.com.

There site also has pics of the LSD installation www.scionspeed.com

Is the Phatom Grip LSD their own creation or has it been taken from another platform? Or would you happen to know if it was a kit? I know for a fact that you can get a mini cooper that has an open diff and make it a LSD by simply opening up the diff and installing / replacing a few parts. Just wondered what kind of application their LSD is. Obviously one is more expensive than the other.

Oh yeah and I forgot to add. If you own a tc you can simply figure out if it has a LSD (which I doubt b/c of its great price). Simply put the car on jack stands (both front wheels) and proceed to turn the wheel by hand (the car should be in Neutral) and if the other wheel turns then yes it has an LSD.