I love the seats in my xA RS but I with they were a bit lower. I'm 6'2" and I'm very close to the roof when driving. The roof also blocks my view a bit.
I was wondering if anyone had aftermarket seats and if they are lower or not. Any info woul;d be appreciated!
XaRS0888
11-14-2004, 09:30 PM
i'm looking to lower the stock seats as well, i think the stock seat brackets can be custom lowered.
jct
11-14-2004, 09:50 PM
:shock: i'm 6'4" and i got at least 4 extra inchs above my head
but then again i'm drivin a reg. xa
Epitrochoid
11-14-2004, 10:27 PM
:shock: i'm 6'4" and i got at least 4 extra inchs above my head
but then again i'm drivin a reg. xa
The RS has the sunroof which eats up some space. I didn't sit in a regular xA so I don't know how much different the seats are other than the fabric.
Any info on the custom backet would be good!!
matt_a
11-15-2004, 01:15 AM
I've sat in both a regular xA and a RS1. The moonroof does lower the headliner a good 1 1/2". That's fairly significant.
Distracted_Thinker
11-15-2004, 09:11 PM
F-it just open the sunroof and stick your head out. Just make sure you keep your mouth closed incase of bugs :lol:
squirrel
11-16-2004, 04:36 AM
Some aftermarket seats will raise you also depending on the base and slider you get. Not too mention if ifs a fixed bucket, or reclining.
rolex87
11-16-2004, 04:49 AM
I'm trying to use Wedge Engineering brackets for my new seats. They seem to raise them a little. Be warned, they fit like ___, I mean real bad. I'm out in my garage trying to sand down the edges of a hole trying to make it fit, and I haven't even tried the driver's seat bracket yet.
LeeD
11-16-2004, 05:38 AM
The ones from Wedge Engineer, if I'm not mistaken, allow you to tilt front to back, and lift/drop the over all height. It's done with bolts. There are 3 height adjustments on all four corners.
I installed 2 Sparco Torino seats in my 300Z about 3yrs. ago. When I bought them, I bought the seat brackets from the vendor too, but I think it's almost safe to assume they got them from Wedge Engineering.
Even more so after Rolex87 mentioned how much of a pain in the ___ they were to install. Crap, I had all kinds of alignment problems too. Had to shave some stuff down or clip some stuff off too.
Just an FWI, I wanted to install one of my Z's Sparco Torino seats in my xA RS 1.0 last week, before the track day I attended. I called up Wedge Engineering Monday or Tuesday last week and tried to get an adapter bracket shipped next day (I can use the same slider, just needed an adapter). They said they DON'T HAVE adapters for an xA. ONLY for the xB. He wasn't sure, but he thought the xB might have one extra tab, or something or other, and might fit. He offered to ship it to me, but I turned it down because I didn't want to deal with the hassle, and a bigger potential mess than what I had to deal with for the Z, and have to make it work in a very short period of time.
They offered to make one fit, if I brought my car to them, but they are in S. Cal, I think by Long Beach.
I'm still up for doing it though, and may try again later. Maybe one of you guys can buy the guinee pigs? ; )
Epitrochoid
11-16-2004, 10:51 AM
Sounds like there is no easy solution right now. Oh well. :(
Tamago
11-22-2004, 03:32 PM
i have 2 momo START seats, and when we designed the brackets, we dropped about 2 inches in seat height.. just enough to be comfortable, without being excessively low.. my elbow now sits barely above my shoulder when i rest it on the windowsill (instead of being the other way around)
but you're looking at $$$$$ to get this done..
Teammischiefek
12-02-2004, 12:19 PM
yes most aftermarket sets such as recaro sits lower than stock seats. JDM companys such as BRIDE makes "low" brackets. Search!!
hotbox05
12-02-2004, 01:14 PM
go to www.nopionlineonline.com and look it up they have em for xb lemme look for an exact link eh only for xb but here ya go 80 a piece
http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/dsp_parts.cfm?vpcid=038&vcatid=0050&vcatyear=2004&vmodelid=200&vmakeid=380&vL1id=0&&vtitle=SCION%20xB%202004
Epitrochoid
12-02-2004, 10:55 PM
go to www.nopionlineonline.com and look it up they have em for xb lemme look for an exact link eh only for xb but here ya go 80 a piece
http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/dsp_parts.cfm?vpcid=038&vcatid=0050&vcatyear=2004&vmodelid=200&vmakeid=380&vL1id=0&&vtitle=SCION%20xB%202004
Cool, thanks!
hotbox05
12-02-2004, 11:03 PM
i beleive they fit xa's but not 100% i'd call and ask. but yeah in general racing seats are a lil lower but their brackets may be a lil higher so it normally stays close to the same
LeeD
12-02-2004, 11:33 PM
I just tried calling right now, but missed them because their closed. Damb, it's only 4:15pm here in California.
I'll try again tomorrow. If I can't get xA brackets, I may just buy xB brackets and rework them myself.
I'm going to do what ever I have to do to get my Sparco Torino in my xA by the time I hit the track for my next 2 day track day at the end of January! At least now I have time to do any rework that needs to be done
hotbox05
12-03-2004, 12:20 AM
if yer willing to work it out then i'm sure u can make em fit. damn those east coast companies.
XaRS0888
12-03-2004, 02:57 AM
can someone swap seats with a XB and see if it will fit or not?
Tamago
12-03-2004, 03:17 PM
mine are custom aluminum built by www.billetdesign.com and they freakin ROCK! strong as hell, no drilling into the car, stock bolt holes, and the option to either use 4pt harness or stock seatbelt/harness
FYI to you all, when you swap seats, you'll want to pull all sensors etc off the bottom of your stock seats, and keep them plugged into the wire harness. pull the seatbelt switch out gently, and use tape to hold the switch in the closed position. otherwise, you'll have the airbag light flashing, or the seatbelt light flashing.. annoying as hell!
my next project is to move all that wiring elsewhere so it's not cluttering under my seats.
LeeD
12-09-2004, 08:58 PM
I just tried calling right now, but missed them because their closed. Damb, it's only 4:15pm here in California.
I'll try again tomorrow. If I can't get xA brackets, I may just buy xB brackets and rework them myself.
I'm going to do what ever I have to do to get my Sparco Torino in my xA by the time I hit the track for my next 2 day track day at the end of January! At least now I have time to do any rework that needs to be done
Just ordered the xB brackets to install my Sparco Torinos in my xA. Got brackets for drivers and passengers side. Should get them in a week or two. Won't be in town when they arrive due to visiting family for the holidays, but will try and install the seats after xmas.
Rolex87, where you trying to install the xB brackets for an xB, or an xA, when you said that it made the seats sit higher and you had to rework on of the holes?
LeeD
01-22-2005, 10:58 AM
Well, I got my brackets. Driver and Passenger side. and suprise suprise....
THEY DON'T ^%$#@#*$#%^$#@$#W%^$# FIT!!!!!
AND I NEED THEM BY THIIIIIS SATURDAY!!! :flame:
Epitrochoid
01-22-2005, 11:32 AM
Well, I got my brackets. Driver and Passenger side. and suprise suprise....
THEY DON'T ^%$#@#*$#%^$#@$#W%^$# FIT!!!!!
AND I NEED THEM BY THIIIIIS SATURDAY!!! :flame:
Bummer. :(
hotbox05
01-22-2005, 07:12 PM
try weapon-r , they make em , 75 a pair. dont know if theyre in-stock tho.
LeeD
01-22-2005, 08:13 PM
Unfortunately I'm not going to buy another set. I'm just going to make this one work, or send it back and work with these guys and try and get a discount because of the hassle. If I can't get these things working by Saturday, no, Friday because I'm leaving Friday, racing Saturday, then I've got plenty of time to work with Wedge Engineering.
I'm even thinking if I can't get these to work by Friday, then to just return them for a refund because my fiance doesn't want them in the 'her' car all the time, so I'll only be installing them for track days and this one may be the last in the xA RS 1.0.
econobox
01-23-2005, 12:13 AM
Here's why lowering the seat could be a bad idea, especially if you're tall. Part of the reason the xA works for tall people is that the seat is high and your legs are quite upright for such a small car, at least compared to other small cars I've owned and driven. This gives plenty of leg room with the stock seat height. Cut two inches off the seat height and you're taking over an inch of leg room too.
The stock seat with side airbags is 13" high from the carpet to the top of the cushion. In my upright driving position, I keep it almost near the back slide setting, leaving enough room for a passenger in the back seat. Draw an invisible line from the front of the seat to the carpet for a place to start, then measure to where the floor starts curving up (which is generous since your heel probably sits before that. That gives me 16" of distance from the seat to the front. The hypotenuse of the triangle there comes to 20.6", which is the closest thing we're going to get for a generic "knee bottom to heel" measurement of legroom.
Cut 2" off the height of the seat and you're down to 11" of height. The hypotenuse of the triangle there is down to 19.4". So if you cut off 2" of seat height you lose 1.2" of legroom. Something to think about if you've got long legs.
So you bought an RS but the sunroof destroys your head room? Shoulda thought about that on the test drive, huh? :) That's one reason why the RS was a no go for me.
jct
01-23-2005, 01:31 AM
:shock: i'm 6'4" and i got at least 4 extra inchs above my head
but then again i'm drivin a reg. xa
correction i'm 6'2" :roll: damn bare feet with shoes i'm around 6'3"
boilerman
01-23-2005, 10:21 AM
I am quite happy with the stock xA. I am 5'10" and can operate this xA while wearing a hat and still not be brushing the headliner. In my old Metro I had to recline the seat back to keep my head sans hat or cap from touching the headliner. It would be desirable to operate a prospective vehicle for a few weeks to experience the undesirable traits prior to purchase. Unfortunately the dealerships do not have loaners for this purpose. Rental perhaps?
staypuft
01-23-2005, 04:17 PM
Well to start out i found nothing wrong with the stock seats in the xA, but i go a sweet deal on some Nex racing seats. I had them installed on a set of sparaco brackets. the seats are very noticably lower. I like the feel of sitting in my car 10x more. The door pannel arm rest is Perfect now, before it was to low to be effective. They made the over all feel of the car awsome imo.. now i just need some shoes for the car :P