View Full Version : 145 wheel HP Xd Mods


dynatek
02-25-2008, 06:23 PM
We have a dyno comparison between our stock 1.8L Dual VVTi motor (Scion Xd) and the same motor equipped with a new intake manifold, dedicated air intake, 2.5-inch cat back and (no cat) off-road pipe. The power output of the 1.8L jumped from 119 wheel hp (Dynojet) to 145 hp, the majority of which came from the new aluminum intake manifold. We hope to have all parts in production and even make the intake manifold emissions legal if sufficient interest exists. We sent an e-mail over to the moderator about advertising our products on this site but have not heard back. We are currently working on a new MAF upgrade and then the low-cost turbo system will be tested. We would like to post the Dynojet graph but aren't sure if it is possible. Any suggestions would be helpful (yes, we did read the posting procedure). Thanks. We can e-mail Jpeg if someone can get it posted.

jspectoaster
02-25-2008, 11:20 PM
do you have a website or anything?

dynatek
02-26-2008, 01:42 AM
The web site for Dynatek racing is www.dynatekracing.com, but it is currently being revised to include info on products other than Mustang/Ford. I will post photos of the production pieces as soon as they are available.

CASTREX
02-26-2008, 11:18 PM
Quite interested here!!

Do you have any pics? I have a Toyota Yaris 08 equipped with the 1.8L 2ZR-FE engine... and would love to have 25 extra HP's

I would love to see some more detailed info abou the improvements that you're claming. Those are big number for a manifold.

Do you have reading of the A/F during your testing? I wonder if the stock ECU can make up for all the extra air by itself... Din't you used any kind of piggy back to to tune it?

dynatek
02-26-2008, 11:45 PM
The power gains depicted in the graph are for the intake manifold, CAI and exhaust mods, though the intake manifold alone on the VVTi motor increased the power output from 119 hp to 136 hp. We logged air/fuel on all runs and actually changes to MAF orientation was more critical than changes to the intake manifold. That MAF is very sensitive to changes in orientation. If positioned properly, the new intake manifold will not alter stock air/fuel curve. No piggy back tuning was needed.

jspectoaster
02-27-2008, 02:12 AM
this all sounds very good please keep us updated.

theboxman
02-27-2008, 02:43 AM
sounds great. cant wait for it to come out

CASTREX
03-04-2008, 02:15 AM
Updates???

UnTouChbLe_D
03-05-2008, 02:45 AM
what inches is the intake?

CASTREX
03-06-2008, 04:52 AM
what inches is the intake?

What do you mean by that? This is the intake manifold... not the intake as in a CAI

The diameter of the intake is not the most important part of the design

UnTouChbLe_D
03-06-2008, 12:29 PM
sorry mis-read, but i am interested on the intake manifold how much 'cause the site doesn't load.... i have currently a custom intake, 2 1/4 pipe and with srt-4 resonator and it sounds nice and the performance was awesome, looking for more upgrades, any tips just let me know...

Tamago
03-07-2008, 02:46 PM
watching

bkuhl
03-19-2008, 03:41 AM
IM for the xD already, and the tC still doesn't have one... makes me a sad sad panda :( [still hard to believe without other confirmation that this IM exists! :P]

bkuhl
04-12-2008, 01:14 PM
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump! TTIWWP!!!

pickledchang
04-24-2008, 11:55 PM
any more info on this thing?

SHU
04-29-2008, 06:44 AM
What do these mods do to the gas mileage?

pickledchang
04-29-2008, 02:23 PM
this would be one of those "depends on how you drive it" deals and how its designed. chances are that if it provides more power with the same amount of gas being injected, you will get better gas mileage if you drive it the same, but having 25 more hp is going to be hard not to use on a constant basis.

MtnRunner
09-08-2008, 11:00 PM
any progress on the mods?????

pickledchang
09-09-2008, 02:58 AM
i got a hold of the guy about a month or so ago on the phone, and he basically said they are not going to pursue this unless there is "plenty of interest"... so if they still have this project on the back burner, it would be up to a lot of us to contact him and basically put money down on this.

MtnRunner
09-09-2008, 09:33 PM
bummer cause it seems to get any good amount of xd owners to get up and start bugging companies to get us parts it takes a major fire under the ___....

pickledchang
09-09-2008, 10:46 PM
yup, id totally be down for spending $700 for an intake manifold. maybe we could get another company interested, like skunk2 or something, i dunno.

draxcaliber
09-09-2008, 11:01 PM
What do these mods do to the gas mileage?

most performance mods will cause a decrease in mpg. the whole process of making more power out of an engine is adding more air so the engine can inject more fuel to make more power. the increase in power is directly related to the increased air flow and inversely related to mpg.

take for instance 318_tc, he made 454 whp and his turbo tc got 8 mpg. while my super charged tc has 225 whp and still gets mid 20's mpg. because his turbo sucked in WAAAAAYYYY more air then my tc ever could.

Zefoxe
09-10-2008, 12:13 AM
I would put the money in too. Could take xB2s and tCs easy with that kinda power :P

SeattleGuy
09-11-2008, 09:22 PM
Thanks for following up on this pickled, despite the bad news.

Runawayrogue
09-12-2008, 12:43 AM
Well here's what you do if you people want the parts... get a group of 10-20 people (or more, preferably) who are committed to putting down the money on this part upfront. THEN you go talk to the company and say, "Hey, I have X people commited to putting down their cash for those parts if you are willing to produce."

Group buys work wonders in the production industry!

JDMJim
11-18-2008, 01:28 AM
$700 is a lot of dough and I'd like that part. too bad I'm laid off

pickledchang
11-18-2008, 04:07 PM
PM richard, maybe he would let you put one on layaway, i think he is making an extra one or two.

equinox2355
11-18-2008, 04:34 PM
I have a Toyota Yaris 08 equipped with the 1.8L 2ZR-FE engine...

Wait I thought all the Yaris' had the 1.5L motor (just checked on toyota's website, all the yaris' that are sold (at least here in the US) are 1.5L

CASTREX
11-18-2008, 04:51 PM
I have a Toyota Yaris 08 equipped with the 1.8L 2ZR-FE engine...

Wait I thought all the Yaris' had the 1.5L motor (just checked on toyota's website, all the yaris' that are sold (at least here in the US) are 1.5L


Who said I'm in the US??? :P

I'm from Cost Rica. And yep all US Yaris are are sold with the 1.5l no exception.

Mine is a 2008 Yaris TS (T-Sport). Is an European version. A few of these were brought here on a special order.

Check it out:

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq175/castrex/Droppedandclean002-1.jpg

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq175/castrex/yarisrojoynegro042.jpg

equinox2355
11-18-2008, 04:55 PM
Oh I wish I had the TS, small light, Dual VVT-i, its just begging for a turbo :P

CASTREX
11-18-2008, 06:33 PM
Oh I wish I had the TS, small light, Dual VVT-i, its just begging for a turbo :P

ohhh I'm sure that Richard will assist us in that regard eventually... :pray:

hint:

He already has a AEM FIC wired to his xD..... what do you all think that is for? :nails:

equinox2355
11-18-2008, 07:01 PM
Oh I wish I had the TS, small light, Dual VVT-i, its just begging for a turbo :P

ohhh I'm sure that Richard will assist us in that regard eventually... :pray:

hint:

He already has a AEM FIC wired to his xD..... what do you all think that is for? :nails:

sweet! keep us updated, my g/f might be getting one of the 1.8L matrix (with the same motor the xD and your Yaris) so it would be fun.

dynatek
11-19-2008, 01:27 AM
The fuel economy issue is less related to the mods and more related to how you use them. The long-tube header and intake manifold might actually improve fuel mileage or at least have no effect on a steady state test. If you have your foot in the throtle more, you will use more fuel-it takes extra fuel to make the extra power but there is no change under cruise conditions. I like the Xd-especially the motor-I wish my Yaris had the Xd motor-I got nearly 40 mpg (39.5) driving from Cali to Vegas at a steady 70 mph.

pickledchang
11-19-2008, 02:14 PM
engine swap? lol.

richmond2000
12-12-2008, 04:54 AM
engine swap? lol.
has ANYBODY looked into for xB /xA / Echo /Vios /yaris?
I have looked
(sorry about jacking)

CASTREX
12-12-2008, 12:50 PM
engine swap? lol.
has ANYBODY looked into for xB /xA / Echo /Vios /yaris?
I have looked
(sorry about jacking)

What do you mean? Swapping a 2ZR into a xb-xa-Echo-Yaris?


My Yaris comes equipped from factory with the 2zr'fe 1.8L engine.


Engine bay on the Yaris and the xD are almost the same.

Zefoxe
12-12-2008, 03:10 PM
I honestly believe you could fit the tC motor in our cars since the corolla has both equipped in their lineup. I don't think its worth it though since Dynateks upgrades will have u at the same numbers most likely for at least half the price.

JDMJim
12-12-2008, 03:49 PM
I wouldn't want the lunk in my xD. too big and boring of an engine. M2 Motorings 3S-GTE swapped xD for the win! that is a much better and prolly easier swap than the tC motor :yawn:

Zefoxe
12-12-2008, 04:36 PM
yea but M2 can't even disclose how much it cost them lol they just tell me too much when I do.

CASTREX
12-12-2008, 06:35 PM
yea but M2 can't even disclose how much it cost them lol they just tell me too much when I do.


Is that M2 car running? Or is just another show car only?


I don't think it will be cheaper swapping a 3SGTE over the TC engine... But it sure would be awesome!


Anyways.... We wont see engine swaps on these cars any time soon. Maybe in 5-6 years. The cars are too new. There are no easy enough swap options yet.

You know what will be nice? a 3ZR-FAE swap. But again it will be quite a few years before we can get one of these bad boys from Japan. Not sure if it will be coming to America. Maybe in the corolla in a couple of years.

For the people who don't know what the 3ZR-FAE engine is. Is the new 2.0L 4 cyl with double VVT-I and VALMATIC ( The new lift technology)

3ZR-FAE
158 hp @ 6,200rpm
148 lb-ft TQ @ 4,400rpm
33 MPG
164 g/km of COČ emissions


Lots of potential there....!

JDMJim
12-12-2008, 10:41 PM
true, we have a decent engine. once some sort of turbo kits hit the market, it's over

Zefoxe
12-13-2008, 03:01 AM
yes it runs Castex, they actually time attack and use it for show. its been tuned to run between 400-500hp

JDMJim
12-13-2008, 04:55 PM
too much HP for a little car. U.S. time attack is still about HP and not balance. so sad. it only needs 200HP and a kick a$$ suspension

CASTREX
12-13-2008, 06:27 PM
yes it runs Castex, they actually time attack and use it for show. its been tuned to run between 400-500hp



Videos anyone????

ChelsDS
12-13-2008, 09:24 PM
I could've sworn the M2 xD was not able to run. :?

JDMJim
12-13-2008, 11:23 PM
not at United at least.

Zefoxe
12-14-2008, 06:33 AM
dunno, thats what I was told from the M2Motoring user on this forum in the discussions we had thru PMs

RAGE
12-28-2008, 05:47 AM
Whatever happened to this? I read the thread end to end and it looks like it just died - anyone know what happened?

We have a dyno comparison between our stock 1.8L Dual VVTi motor (Scion Xd) and the same motor equipped with a new intake manifold, dedicated air intake, 2.5-inch cat back and (no cat) off-road pipe. The power output of the 1.8L jumped from 119 wheel hp (Dynojet) to 145 hp, the majority of which came from the new aluminum intake manifold. We hope to have all parts in production and even make the intake manifold emissions legal if sufficient interest exists. We sent an e-mail over to the moderator about advertising our products on this site but have not heard back. We are currently working on a new MAF upgrade and then the low-cost turbo system will be tested. We would like to post the Dynojet graph but aren't sure if it is possible. Any suggestions would be helpful (yes, we did read the posting procedure). Thanks. We can e-mail Jpeg if someone can get it posted.

pickledchang
12-28-2008, 01:30 PM
holy crap!

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=245409

stunt-man-hans
05-17-2009, 04:39 PM
+100 im in for this.[/img]

xD_kidd91
07-27-2009, 05:51 AM
I know this seem abit late but with some parts that are available now. (injen cai.greddy exhaust, nst pulley, I believe it can make atleast a good 140hp on our little xd lol . btw I talked to the people from m2 at a scion car show and told me the mr2 swap cost about 10k and thats just to get it running. but then your also going to need axles and whatnot.

pickledchang
07-30-2009, 07:38 AM
with enough money, i could put whatever engine i wanted in an xD... i think im finally settling in with the fact that the xD is a dead end, which is fine because i can put money into more important things.

xD_kidd91
07-30-2009, 02:33 PM
Im starting to lose hope too. but im still saving till spring incase if something such as headers come out. who knows. If not, then i guess i can put some bags on my mini truck haha

ChurchBlumpkin69
08-04-2009, 01:30 AM
Finally! You have sobered up Pickle!

It's a crying shame, but the economy killed the xD's chances for aftermarket. There are just too few out there to justify the R&D necessary to make a product (which probably couldn't be sold in the numbers necessary for ROI)


with enough money, i could put whatever engine i wanted in an xD... i think im finally settling in with the fact that the xD is a dead end, which is fine because i can put money into more important things.

xD_kidd91
08-04-2009, 02:28 AM
well, I dont make much but I didnt get an xd to go nowhere with it. So i'll try to save and go with some lightweight wheels. great tires. throttle response system. coilovers. swaybars.. autocross anyone?

coloskydiver
08-04-2009, 02:43 AM
I know this seem abit late but with some parts that are available now. (injen cai.greddy exhaust, nst pulley, I believe it can make atleast a good 140hp on our little xd lol . btw I talked to the people from m2 at a scion car show and told me the mr2 swap cost about 10k and thats just to get it running. but then your also going to need axles and whatnot.



I am the process of building a Monster Miata (V8 Miata usings a 5.0 HO Mustang Motor) and can build the whole car for 10K. Some of these engine swaps are so expensive. For 10k I will have a car that will run 0-60 in 4.5 sec and run the quarter in the 12's. I knew what I was buying when I bought the Xd; a cool little car that is fun to drive, gets great gas millage and handles really well. There are gains to be had as well. I have a Fujita CAI, NST Pulley, lightened wheels, and open up the exhaust (still running stock mufler for noise control) and there is a huge difference over stock. These cars are still a lot of fun and you can drive the ____ out of them.

xD_kidd91
08-04-2009, 03:06 AM
I am the process of building a Monster Miata and can build the whole car for 10K. Some of these engine swaps are so expensive. For 10k I will have a car that will run 0-60 in 4.5 sec and run the quarter in the 12's. I knew what I was buying when I bought the Xd; a cool little car that is fun to drive, gets great gas millage and handles really well. There are gains to be had as well. I have a Fujita CAI, NST Pulley, lightened wheels, and open up the exhaust (still running stock mufler for noise control) and there is a huge difference over stock. These cars are still a lot of fun and you can drive the ____ out of them.

thats impressive. keep us updated with that. miata is a nice car to work with :icon_smile: . but I can kinda say I seen it coming too when it comes to not making soo much power such as the tc. but despite the economy. im sure this isnt the end for the xd.

Aseries
03-19-2010, 03:17 PM
Thanks for the info. I want to avoid forced induction. The 1.8 Xd engine is pretty amazing even in stock form. Back in the day, 1.17 hp/cu. in. was bonafide hot rod territory. Getting that in an econobox was unthinkable. Some proven induction and exhaust mods that the stock computer can handle would be great. The handling of the Xd is about 85% of a MINI but you get to sit upright like an adult.

2zrfeoncrack
11-16-2010, 05:19 PM
I HAVE SOME NEWS!!!!

Im a new member but have been trolling the forum for a little bit collecting info on the 2zr-fe motor because its what i'm sporting. I have contacted a few different preformance header companies, one of witch i thought was the infamous dynatek from this post, but was not. . . . . Its a company called Dynatech.

Back to the point at hand, I have been going back and fourth with the Head product manager Greg Fuesler, and he said that they would be willing to make a prototype, Im going to copy and paste the exact E-mail Mr. Fuesler sent me so you guys can see with your own eyes . . . . Here it is . . .

It would all depend on the volume. We would need some sort of commitment
before we would begin a project as such. Typically it would take a 50 set
order before we would consider prototyping. That being said, it would be a
50 set order from one company, etc.

Please let me know if something like this will work.

Greg Fuesler
Dynatech Product Manager / Corporate Sales
A-FAB LLC
PO Box 548
Boonville, IN 47601
Phone 800-848-5850
Email: gafuesler@afcoracing.com

JDMJim
11-16-2010, 09:50 PM
^^ this is why the intake plenum never happened.

CXTKRS1
12-03-2010, 06:13 AM
I HAVE SOME NEWS!!!!

Im a new member but have been trolling the forum for a little bit collecting info on the 2zr-fe motor because its what i'm sporting. I have contacted a few different preformance header companies, one of witch i thought was the infamous dynatek from this post, but was not. . . . . Its a company called Dynatech.

Back to the point at hand, I have been going back and fourth with the Head product manager Greg Fuesler, and he said that they would be willing to make a prototype, Im going to copy and paste the exact E-mail Mr. Fuesler sent me so you guys can see with your own eyes . . . . Here it is . . .

It would all depend on the volume. We would need some sort of commitment
before we would begin a project as such. Typically it would take a 50 set
order before we would consider prototyping. That being said, it would be a
50 set order from one company, etc.

Please let me know if something like this will work.

Greg Fuesler
Dynatech Product Manager / Corporate Sales
A-FAB LLC
PO Box 548
Boonville, IN 47601
Phone 800-848-5850
Email: gafuesler@afcoracing.com

Now we just need to convince a company to buy fifty of these headers. Dynatech does make pretty good products too at least in the F-Body world.

2zrfeoncrack
12-03-2010, 06:46 PM
We can ask nonstoptuning.com to be the company they have some interest in the production of aftermarket parts for the 2ZR-FE, but I don't wanna be the guy who asks, I don't know them like that.