I'm thinking of getting some wheel spacers today for the rear of my xB. I'm not content with the rear wheels not being flush enough to the fender.

Are there any negative issues using spacers?

yeah, there is a big negative. the bolts aren't going to be long enough so it becomes a safety issue, if you can even get them on at all. you can get longer bolts if you really want to do this, although i still don't like spacers. they might make your wheels look good, but they are a real safety issue. and you don't want to take chances with a wheel falling off while driving.

i would not use spacers. another problem that can occur is vibration and it can be annoying. just keep that in mind.

i'm 100% against spacers...
but.....
if you do get them, only run the H&R style ones...
they have a second set of studs built into the aluminum spacer...
then the spacer it's self bolts to the OE studs so there is less sheer loads on the OE studs.
here's a pic:
http://www.hrsprings.com/site/products/images/spacers4.jpg
they are called Track+ wheel spacers.

plus you order them to fit your car...
w/ the correct center bore & hub centric diameter.
but they're considerably more than a off the shelf Pep Boys spacer.

Thanks for your thoughts and comments. I'm convinced not to compromise looks for safety since my xB is my daily driven car.

I think EV AIC got his rear wheel added with 10mm wheel spacer

http://www.autoimportcraze.com/images/cars/AIC-xB/xb13.jpg

u think he's still alive and well? haha.

What's funny is that even with a 10mm spacer, the rear wheel isn't near flush! So much space to play with on the Scions! Hopefully he's got extended studs to go along with the spacers...although I'm sure he did, as it's almost impossible to even start threading on your lug nuts with a spacer that big on the stock wheel studs.

You can't use stock studs with 10mm spacers.

I'm going for the 15mm spacer from H&R... Heck, might as well go with 20mm spacer kit from H&R.

You can't use stock studs with 10mm spacers.

I'm going for the 15mm spacer from H&R... Heck, might as well go with 20mm spacer kit from H&R.

how much would a 15mm spacer kit cost? does that include the longer bolts?

It's kit from H&R which included the longer bolts and the spacer is specifically for 4x100 bolt pattern.

It's kit from H&R which included the longer bolts and the spacer is specifically for 4x100 bolt pattern.

so how much many presidents are we looking at here? u may use benjamins for our discussion purpose

for 15mm H&R Spacers cost 120 @ Sciontuners.com but look around and you should be able to score one for 70 benjamins.

DUDE! $70 Benjamins!? I think you meant $70 George Washingtons.. 70 Benjamins is half our car costs :wink:

What's the thickest spacer H&R makes?
And how many copper Lincolns would it be?
Buffalo chips?

roger,
go with the 25mm spacers, that way you don't have to change your studs. i also guarantee that it will be flush or better. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

2fixa - You're right... it's washington not benjie...

I'm entertaining the idea of 20mm H&R spacers. That should make flush with the fender.

Roger, are you still only running the 5mm spacers in the back??

was wondering what spacers you were using in the pics with the ADR Fuel rims...


thanks!!

Brian

Roger, are you still only running the 5mm spacers in the back??

was wondering what spacers you were using in the pics with the ADR Fuel rims...



Yes, I am still using the 5mm spacers with the ADR Fuel Rims. BTW, the rims are still for sale but missing front tires so selling those ADR Fuel for $580 (shameless plug).

BTW, 13k miles with spacers and I'm still also alive...

dont listen to these guys, spacers are safe. i have been running 20mm spacers on the rear of my jetta for over 20,000 miles, everything is okay.

dont buy anything but h&r or FK hubcentric spacers (nothing else looks like it is made very well), and definitely dont buy the spacer from autozone or pepboys, they are crap.

5mm spacers dont come hubcentric (no lip) everything else does. i plan to put 20mm spacers on the rear of our xB (stock wheels) to get them out as far or a little farther than the front wheels, since they are so far tucked in.

i will be the test case for this board since so many are scared to death of them. stay tuned i will be posting images soon as we get them on. search for wheel spacers over the next couple of days.

oh yeah, FK spacers (i have seen them sold at amimotorsports site) are about half the price of h&r, but they are heavier than h&r. both are of good quality thou.

Hi guys i m driving a JDM IST in Singapore and i m not very sure if the H&R spacers fit into my car. I m very interested in the 20mm spacers because my new rims OFFSET is 42 and it look terrible coz of IST wide fenders.

Is the xA in 4 lugs? or 5 lugs? IST has 4 lugs on the rims and not very sure if the diameter of the spacers will fit. Please advise me, any help will be very much appreciated. :D

xA is 4 lugs. 4x100.
You want the 54.1 centerbore spacers.

Does any one know how to change the studs? (my first Japanese car)
I need to get H&R 20mm for the rear and i need longer stud on the front
( i have17"x7.5" +45 off set with 5mm spacer. stock stud are to short)
thanx.
http://www.mydubmedia.com/gallery/albums/youngvr6/myxb.thumb.jpg

I would guess that they need to be pressed out/in. Not sure though.

do i need any special tools?

If they need to be pressed in/out, you'll need a press. That's pretty special. Probably best to confirm my info from somebody that's familiar with small toyotas first.

I would guess that they need to be pressed out/in. Not sure though.

i noticed that. when i added 20mm spacers to my jetta the bolts are just that, bolts. the xB has nuts and the threads stick out from the 'axle'. the spacers they sell here say that they come with longer bolts, but i don't know if and how to replace them on the car.

i will send an email or something to this board and/or h&r to see what the deal is. push comes to shove, i may go with 25mm and just add the adapter thing which you dont need longer bolts for.

i'm 100% against spacers...
but.....
if you do get them, only run the H&R style ones...
they have a second set of studs built into the aluminum spacer...
then the spacer it's self bolts to the OE studs so there is less sheer loads on the OE studs.
here's a pic:
http://www.hrsprings.com/site/products/images/spacers4.jpg
they are called Track+ wheel spacers.

Dang, these look nice, but a 10mm aluminum plate doesn't seem to be terribly strong, particularly when the plate is stressed as these are. It would reduce the shear loads on the original studs, but the plate itself picks up some pretty hefty loads.

Now if the plate was made of steel...

George

heavier does not always mean stronger.

Dang, these look nice, but a 10mm aluminum plate doesn't seem to be terribly strong, particularly when the plate is stressed as these are. It would reduce the shear loads on the original studs, but the plate itself picks up some pretty hefty loads.

Now if the plate was made of steel...

George

ive had 10mm spacer on my other car for 3 years and it is still holding
I would recommend to get the extended studs when buying a spacer

The wheel is made of aluminum too and I'd bet those spacers are stronger than many wheel pads.

heavier does not always mean stronger.

No, but higher yield strength numbers _do_ mean stronger:

High Strength Aluminum: ~60,000PSI
Steel: ~180,000PSI

Conventional wheel spacers can be made out of just about any metal, as they are strictly in compression. However, the spacers pictured carry loads between their own studs and the car's studs through the metal of the spacer itself.

However, they do provide a nice way to use other bolt patterns than the 4x100mm.

My own preference would be for conventional spacers with the hub-centric socket machined in the back and a hub-centric protrusion on the wheel side. This would carry the shear loads, leaving the studs (even long studs) free to carry only tensile loads.

George

im running 18's with 45mm offset....using a 5mm spacer in the back with stock studs.....no problems here....

Roger, are you still only running the 5mm spacers in the back??

was wondering what spacers you were using in the pics with the ADR Fuel rims...



Yes, I am still using the 5mm spacers with the ADR Fuel Rims. BTW, the rims are still for sale but missing front tires so selling those ADR Fuel for $580 (shameless plug).

BTW, 13k miles with spacers and I'm still also alive...
with the 5mm spacers in the back did u have to change your studs....i didnt have to....but im thinkin 20mm now...and for those i will need longer studs

[quote=stnley]

My own preference would be for conventional spacers with the hub-centric socket machined in the back and a hub-centric protrusion on the wheel side. This would carry the shear loads, leaving the studs (even long studs) free to carry only tensile loads.

George

That's how many of the H&R spacers are.

I got 17"x7.5" +45 offset with 5mm spacer (pep-boys type) front and back.
I ordered 17"x7.5" +40 offset. but WHEELOPTIONS.COM shipped me with 5mm spacer GLUED to my wheels. :x :x never order any thing from this UNPROFESSIONAL PEOPLE.
Anyway...
Front looks OK (stock studs is too short, not safe)
Rear not OK (stock studs is too short,not safe)
So according from my ruler i need H&R 15 mm(Part # 30245414) spacer wich it comes with longer studs for the front.(will remove GLUED 5mm spacers)
and rear, I'm getting H&R 25 mm spacer (Part # 5024541).(will remove GLUED 5mm spacers)

After the spacers basically i will have 17"x7.5" +30 offset for the front
and +20 offset in the rear.
With Spy 2" springs

I will post pic (before & after) as soon as i get my spacers.

This is the place you ordered from?
http://wheeloptions.com/wheels.html

That's ridiculous. Have you tried to get a refund or anything?
Please let me know. PM or email if you like.

Dude I would ask for a refund. That is very misleading. You can't give someone spacers to give them the correct offset for their rims. I would never order from them bro.

[quote=stnley]

My own preference would be for conventional spacers with the hub-centric socket machined in the back and a hub-centric protrusion on the wheel side. This would carry the shear loads, leaving the studs (even long studs) free to carry only tensile loads.

George

That's how many of the H&R spacers are.
the hubcentric spacers are for tire alignment....whats with this weight bearing BS...my hubcentric rings are plastic and there is no way in hell they can take the weight load of a car being plastic.....i called big o tires and they told me they were for tire alignment only....not weight loads...