Hi guys

I just want to make a poll to get some numbers for our future project

Please do make yor vote

I have the factory but I would easily buy a new one that looked better. Hope it comes out nice

Showpaojoe:

Thanks for your reply :D
You have always been very supportive to us

For those who got factory spoiler, if its also easy for you guys to swap one, let me know

Red Genie xB....Is that your kit on the West Coast Customs xB?

Can someone please make a replica of the spoiler for less than the dealer? :D

I agree I am skeptical to buy any aftermarket one because of less quality, bad fittiment. I wanted to do the Carbon fiber one that is being sold right now on our forums but I am afraid it isnt going to look as good as stock.

$228 from the dealer uninstalled is not bad, but not good. The CF one is $189, I like that price alot.

But one in the range of $150-$165 good quality, same or equal to OEM would be great!

yah, i like the carbon fiber one...hey tim you should make carbon fiber ones with a lil more lip on the edges...like small canards...and have them available in different tinted colors like maroon, blue, silver...etc |_______| :wink:

Yes, it is out kit on the WCC's xB @ SEMA

Thank you for all your feedbacks (I need more!)

I am planning to create a brand new spoiler for the xB. Right now I am looking at all the spoilers available for xBs... So far I think the factory one look the best

It’s easy for me to make a replica factory spoiler and sell it for cheap. However, copy is just not my thing and price for factory spoiler is very good (Remember it is factory painted).

I am again, brain storming on designs and about to put my xB into a 2-week modeling process...

As for now, my idea is to have a spoiler similar to factory, but angled a little higher... also there is a gap between the spoiler and the trunk lid (if you look from the top) that I want to fill and make it completely flat. It will go all the way across the length of the roof instead ends at the trunk lid.

Let me know what you guys think… Photochop coming soon!

Does the factory spoiler on our xBs actually do anything other than go for looks? If it is just for looks, I'd buy an aftermarket one if it had a good fitment and looked longer and nicer than the factory.

By looking at the factory spoiler, I am sure it somehow provides extra down force to the car. However, I personally don't think that it will do anything unless you are traveling 80+MPH. I will design a spoiler and taking it to my friend who study physics, and hopefully I can make something that should create down force to the car when travel at certain speed *theoratically* :wink:

BTW, CF spoiler might be avalible too if some of you into CF products

I'm open for a new spoiler idea :wink: .

Tha factory spoiler also helps exhaust fumes to be flushed away from the vehicle, this is why there is a gap between the spoiler and the car, The forced air runs down the back. And downforce above 80mph is about right.

I have the factory spoiler, but will very much like to upgrade (if feasible) to something like a Spoon Sports Duckbill Carbon Fiber wing. I thought about getting an aftermarket spoiler when I was buying my car and and would've wanted the factory to drill my holes for me anyways rather than doing it myself or having a shop do it.

I am still figuring out how to have the spoiler installed
I don't have a factory spoiler on my xB so I don't really know how the factory one goes on the car. However, I noticed that there is caps on the spoiler so assuming the screws go from top of the spoiler to the car and cover by the caps. The spoiler that I am going to do will not have those caps, so installation will either be double stick tape from 3M, or drill from inside of the trunk lid to the car.
Is that okay with you guys??

i have the factory spoiler, but would like to get something different if it would install in similar manner as factory spoiler....

i would like something larger myself....

do you have any designs for us to look at?

thanks!

I'd stay away from double stick tape. Drillin from the interior would be fine, just need a template to make sure the holes are exactly where they're supposed to be....

spoilers are dumb , hahaha i am the only one that voted for that one, mainly because i see no use for the spoiler, the xb is not an areodynamic vehicle, why add on a part used for areodynamics, unless you just want it cause it looks cool, then that is o.k. you just won't see one on mine, it is a box needs to stay a box, IMO

i'm with ya spawn.

a spoiler ruins the entire design of the car. i mean it's a box. not a box with a lip on it. trying to make a brick more aerodynamic by adding a spoiler is just silly.

it's like the audi TT with that stupid little lip... just interrupts the lines of the car.

Hey Tim, do you need a factory spoiler? You can use mine if you need it for the little mounting pegs and what not, I don't mind. I also have a cracked one down the center but I don't think you want that.

By looking at the factory spoiler, I am sure it somehow provides extra down force to the car. However, I personally don't think that it will do anything unless you are traveling 80+MPH. I will design a spoiler and taking it to my friend who study physics, and hopefully I can make something that should create down force to the car when travel at certain speed *theoratically* :wink:


Since the factory spoiler is known to direct air down over the rear window it may also reduce pressure drag by "breaking" the vacuum of the wake. On most cars it wouldn't be a consideration but let's face it, our little boxes can use all the help they can get :D

Now I wish I'd stayed awake in fluid mechanics class ...

i love the look of the fabulous sporlier
http://www.fabulous.co.jp/domestic_car/toyota/popup/bb/images/03.jpg

I'd be interested if the price was right (under $200.) But yeah, an original design would be tiiiiight!

I'd prefer having that "gap" between the spoiler and the edge of the roof. Not only does it push the exhaust down, it also helps during episodes of rain by helping to clear the rear window (don't have to use the wiper so much); additionally, it helps to keep the dust from building up.

Not just a look thing, but in addition to a little more downforce, the factory style spoilers provide this further functionality.

Tim...I have a stock one, but I would buy a high quality DUCKBILL type one...similar to Fabulous style.

Tim...I have a stock one, but I would buy a high quality DUCKBILL type one...similar to Fabulous style.

i like those too! do they have any gap at all similar to the factory spoiler....someone mentioned that helps vent exhaust away from car...

Great! Now I kind of get the idea
Thanks for all your help :D

Thank you Showpaojoe for offering me a stock one
Yes, I might need a factory one to play around with (the cracked one is okay too)
Maybe I can pick it up at the meet tomorrow (If there is a meet tomorrow)

By looking at the functions that factory spoiler offer, I kind of get an idea how I want to make my spoiler

This is what I want to do:
A spoiler ends at the edge of the car instead of the trunk
This spoiler will tilt a little higher than stock
The spoiler will be a little bigger than factory
The spoiler will have a sharper cut at the tip of the spoiler (More like fabulous one)
I will keep the gap between the spoiler and the trunk because it does serve some purpose
It will somehow look like DUCKBILL type
It will require drilling to install since 3M is just not going to work

For those who is interested in one, please just PM me, e-mail me, or post here and put "Keep me posted" I need to know if this project is feasible

If there is enough interest, I will send the car in Monday for making the first prototype.

that sounds like a good design!

will it be able to attach in the same place the factory spoiler does now? otherwise there will be some holes to plug and/or cover up...

is it going to be available in matching colors/carbon fiber?

I don't know about you guys but I've always liked this one

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/bodykits/rtype_aeromaster_type2_xb_02.jpg

These are the 2 styles that you guys seem to like

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/bodykits/pond_premium_xb_02.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/bodykits/aeromagic_fullbloom_speciale_xb_02.jpg

I have the factory spoiler, but I am looking for something different

I wont call rear spoiler dumb. At least there's some function to the OEM spoiler w/that slit. Kinda off topic, but how about a clear hood bug deflector :lol:

I think they should've had a 5th choice. They are fine, just not for mine. I don't want one and don't think they are dumb so the poll left me hangin'.

honestly... I want a 10" spoiler off mine... with a nice inside slope... can even have flat sides...

message me and I can get some images together of what i would love... i would gladly use it also...

Thomas

i don't like the factory spoiler too much...makes the xB look like a shopping cart.

we need these JDM spoilers...they look better and makes the xB look sleeker... not to mention more aggressive. ne idea how much this spoiler cost? and where i can get them?

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/bodykits/pond_premium_xb_02.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/bodykits/aeromagic_fullbloom_speciale_xb_02.jpg

Of the 3 you posted, this ones my favorite! That's sick... And look at those tail lights!

i think making it fit without drilling
EXCESS holes would be perfect,..
like if it can REUSE stock holes(off a stock wing)
so people with wings already just unbolt and bolt..

or newbies can just drill hole that can accept a oem wing..

and i remember that like other cars. u actually replace your whole top
tailgate lid(like totally remove it and replace it). that would work good.
cuz that way, we just unbolt our tailgate cover(top piece where the wing goes)

I wont call rear spoiler dumb. At least there's some function to the OEM spoiler w/that slit. Kinda off topic, but how about a clear hood bug deflector :lol:

i have been looking for a hood bug deflector in black but do not know where to find anything for the xB....i have seen some nice ones on trucks and thought it might look good....

anyone seen these anywhere for the xB?

the fabulous one is super clean and simple. I think that style with CF will look good.

Does it come with matching color of the car or do we need to paint it?

This is what I want to do:
A spoiler ends at the edge of the car instead of the trunk
This spoiler will tilt a little higher than stock
The spoiler will be a little bigger than factory
The spoiler will have a sharper cut at the tip of the spoiler (More like fabulous one)
I will keep the gap between the spoiler and the trunk because it does serve some purpose
It will somehow look like DUCKBILL type
i was going to suggest something inbetween the OEM and fabulous
and also in CF but then when i go down to your post your idea sounds
awesome

the only thing i would have to object to your design would be this
It will require drilling to install since 3M is just not going to work

IMO i would rather stick to the stock holes if possible
i have the factory wing but the ideas of your design sounds awesome and if the finsih product looks as it sounds im sold

Hi guys

Thanks again for all the feedbacks and suggestions

Tomorrow I will take the car to the shop and start working on it
I know it is not that cool if the installation requires drilling...
I did some searches yesterday and still trying to come up with few installation ideas
Here is what I found out and I need to let you guys know:

The stock spoiler is secured with bolts from the top to the bottom, and cover by the caps on the spoiler to have a clean look. If I design a spoiler that use the factory mounting, for people that does not have a spoiler now will need to drill holes anyways and buy the caps from dealer. Plus my cost will be higher too to make something like this possible, and the price for this spoiler will no longer fits everyone's budget. Sorry, but I have to say no on use the factory holes... :(

I will try to find out if I can use a clamp to install my spoiler. If the clamp can be use for this installation, the clamp will camp on each side of the spoiler (top of the trunk lip has about a inch of flat area to be clamp on) Then the price for the wing might be several dollars higher but required no effort on installation. :D

Worst-case scenario... The drilling is required... But its not going to be a major drill... At the ends of the top trunk lid, there is a flat surface where the clamp design plans to be. There can be drilled either 1 or 2 holes each side and the spoiler will be attached there. Lets say the spoiler needs to be removed, use 2 plugs painted body color will completely covers up and cannot be seem. (It will be on the roof part of the trunk lid) I will try to design a spoiler that you don't want to take it off once its installed!

Bump. What happen to this project?

I bought my xB with the oem spoiler already installed and like the looks of it.They charge way too much for it though.

1NZFE, I agree on the clear hood bug guard.I need one of those in a BAD way!

i dont have a spoiler at all but i do like the idea of an aftermarket spoiler. :)

Spoilers are great, they break up the boxy shape a lil bit, enough that it compliments the general overall look of the car, and during rain its a blessing. Plus considering alot of us do travel at 85mph it helps...

Plus considering alot of us do travel at 85mph it helps...

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You know what, since the Opr8r got the fabulous spoiler, I am thinking about gettin it. The dam hing looks great, I even added an led brake light in mine to help me keep it, but I seriously considering the fabulous spoiler 8)

I really think the idea would fly when Red Genie gather all the input on the spoiler to create a new style. Thinking this would be one killer looking spoiler build from all these input. Call me stubborn but I am still waiting for this Multi-Users Input Spoiler.

or you could go to Pep Boys and get the APC wing
http://www.caraddons.com/images/exterior_accessories/apc_wing_104105_LG.jpg

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Spoilers/wings in general are dumb, IMO.

The stock basic little lip hanging off the top isn't bad though, that's smooth. Just stay away from WINGS. Yes, the well designed one's actually serve a purpose on a select few vehicles that cruise at 100+ regularly. The problem is that now every damn car built today seems to come with some kind of ghetto tacked on piece of crap spoiler as a piece of styling garnish, they are so played out it's not even funny. It's harder to buy a new sedan WITHOUT one than it is with. :roll:

Got to love the triple decker stacker wing on a 106 hp Civic DX that can barely maintain 75 mph on the highway with a 5% uphill grade. Wings are freakin ___ for the most part.

Whatever floats your boat, but they are retarded and if you drive an xB there is pretty much no point in doing anything related to aerodynamics. I can't imagine Toyota even bothered to do a wind tunnel test, if they did, I'd love to see photos LOL.
The only thing that looks more retarded than a sedan with a tacked on wing is a wagon or a box like the xB with a biplane wing on the roof.

It couldn't make less sense from any point of view, aerodynamics or styling, IMO...

I wasn't able to submit a vote in the poll.

The last option should of said, "spoilers are dumb / pointless / rice / carbage on certain cars" and I would of picked that one.

IMO, a spoiler takes away the boxy look and we all can admit it has NO performance benefit on the xB :?

i have not seen a spoiler that looks good they all look big and ugly to me
plaese make a nice small lip spoiler that looks clean and little