TylorWeaver
11-20-2004, 03:44 AM
Hey fellas, I've been noticing now, ever since around August of this year, that I've been getting more, and more stress cracks on my Toyota Installed Hotckis Bar...
I took it to my local dealer, which I have been doing business with ever since day one of SCION, lol. I was they're first customer, and first customer to have all these upgrades dumped into my car within the first week. Well, anyways, I took it to them about 3 weeks before I left for my move out here to Georgia. After SOO MUCH diliberation with all the head honcho's, etc, they told me, since its been over a year, since I've had the Hotchkis Bar installed, it no longer carries the Toyota Warranty with it no longer, AND, the cracks are due to stress, DUH, its a damn strut bar, you expect it NOT to bend and twist?? lo
So basically I'm left with this:
http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/2/66479100_1270-med.JPG
http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/2/66479100_1271-med.JPG
They told me it can fall under two categories... ONE: Abuse, shouldn't crack like that under normal driving... and TWO: not under warranty, etc, etc, basic dealer BS.
I told them, "LOOK, I have been doing business with you all since June 9th of 2003, and for ANY small to BIG problem I have had, I came to you guys for help. Whether it be the OEM foglight's rubbing on the AEM, to my TRD TOYOTA INSTALLED exhuast rattling every 2,000mi. due to a worn crush gasket on ALL occasions. You have EVENTUALLY helped me out with my problems by either beating around the bush SO BADLY, I had to call up the west coast Toyota CS Supervisor to have my problems fixed, to me LITERALLY standing on top of you, and WATCH you do work on my car. I am sick and tired of it. I am seriously, what you'd call a "preferred" customer...LMAO, so you guys need to make ends meet with this and the rest of my problems FOR GOOD." <<<And left it at that.
They looked at me, and just stared past me... I assume they knew I was moving to GA, and they won't have to deal with me anymore, so they just tossed in the towel on me one last time..
After all that ISH, I got my TRD exhaust rattle fixed, refinished Hothkis Bar, and all the other small things.. AND no more than 2 days after having my car back from them, YES>it took them 3 weeks with my car, and NO RENTAL, I had just pulled into the MAGIC MOUNTAIN parking lot with my car to spend the first night of our move back to Georgia, until suddenly I started to hear a light buzzing sound coming from my rear end... Finally when we got into Arizona, I think it was Flag Staff, or Tuscon (I dunno), my exhaust went into FULL RATTLE mode, and my paint began or powder coat, whatever it is, began to crack on my strut bar again... I was destined for a 2800mile trip with a LOUDER than my exhaust FULL EXHAUST SYSTEM rattle, and a ____TY looking strut bar...
My exhaust still rattles right now, and my strut bar, looks worse than ever... I have yet have time to take into town to the Toyota Dealer and confront them with my problems, yet, I dunno how to approach them without yelling at the top of my lungs. GRANTED, THEY did not do anything wrong to me (YET), but I am just so angered at this all, I dunno what I can do..
I think I'm going to lay it all out for them, toss down my 23 invoices for all things I've done at that dealer, and yell "HEEEELLLLPPPP!!!" then, see what they can do for me. And if they get it all fixed again, and it comes back, I will seriously go bezerk.. HONESTLY, I will ask for my money back for everything, warranty or not... and take my money elsewhere.
ONE LAST NOTE, my parents' AT ThunderCloud had the TRD Exhaust installed on theirs as well as the HOTCKIS bar since June 20th, 2003 and they only had the same Exhaust problems I've had, not the strut bar. But their's was a little worse than mine. AND, they had actually gotten they're exhaust replaced with a brand new unit, and all exhaust hardware pretty much.. 4k mi. later, its still fine. So I think I'm going to show them my parents' invoice as well to show them, SEE, DO THIS TO MINE!
lol..
sorry for the drawn out post, but I'm sooo frustrated.. I don't want to REPRESENT the CA Crew and all my clubs, etc, and SCION in general running around Atlanta with a PIECE OF ____ sounding exhaust system.. Its just NOT RIGHT.
Thanks for the patience and reading this.
-Tylor
I took it to my local dealer, which I have been doing business with ever since day one of SCION, lol. I was they're first customer, and first customer to have all these upgrades dumped into my car within the first week. Well, anyways, I took it to them about 3 weeks before I left for my move out here to Georgia. After SOO MUCH diliberation with all the head honcho's, etc, they told me, since its been over a year, since I've had the Hotchkis Bar installed, it no longer carries the Toyota Warranty with it no longer, AND, the cracks are due to stress, DUH, its a damn strut bar, you expect it NOT to bend and twist?? lo
So basically I'm left with this:
http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/2/66479100_1270-med.JPG
http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/data/2/66479100_1271-med.JPG
They told me it can fall under two categories... ONE: Abuse, shouldn't crack like that under normal driving... and TWO: not under warranty, etc, etc, basic dealer BS.
I told them, "LOOK, I have been doing business with you all since June 9th of 2003, and for ANY small to BIG problem I have had, I came to you guys for help. Whether it be the OEM foglight's rubbing on the AEM, to my TRD TOYOTA INSTALLED exhuast rattling every 2,000mi. due to a worn crush gasket on ALL occasions. You have EVENTUALLY helped me out with my problems by either beating around the bush SO BADLY, I had to call up the west coast Toyota CS Supervisor to have my problems fixed, to me LITERALLY standing on top of you, and WATCH you do work on my car. I am sick and tired of it. I am seriously, what you'd call a "preferred" customer...LMAO, so you guys need to make ends meet with this and the rest of my problems FOR GOOD." <<<And left it at that.
They looked at me, and just stared past me... I assume they knew I was moving to GA, and they won't have to deal with me anymore, so they just tossed in the towel on me one last time..
After all that ISH, I got my TRD exhaust rattle fixed, refinished Hothkis Bar, and all the other small things.. AND no more than 2 days after having my car back from them, YES>it took them 3 weeks with my car, and NO RENTAL, I had just pulled into the MAGIC MOUNTAIN parking lot with my car to spend the first night of our move back to Georgia, until suddenly I started to hear a light buzzing sound coming from my rear end... Finally when we got into Arizona, I think it was Flag Staff, or Tuscon (I dunno), my exhaust went into FULL RATTLE mode, and my paint began or powder coat, whatever it is, began to crack on my strut bar again... I was destined for a 2800mile trip with a LOUDER than my exhaust FULL EXHAUST SYSTEM rattle, and a ____TY looking strut bar...
My exhaust still rattles right now, and my strut bar, looks worse than ever... I have yet have time to take into town to the Toyota Dealer and confront them with my problems, yet, I dunno how to approach them without yelling at the top of my lungs. GRANTED, THEY did not do anything wrong to me (YET), but I am just so angered at this all, I dunno what I can do..
I think I'm going to lay it all out for them, toss down my 23 invoices for all things I've done at that dealer, and yell "HEEEELLLLPPPP!!!" then, see what they can do for me. And if they get it all fixed again, and it comes back, I will seriously go bezerk.. HONESTLY, I will ask for my money back for everything, warranty or not... and take my money elsewhere.
ONE LAST NOTE, my parents' AT ThunderCloud had the TRD Exhaust installed on theirs as well as the HOTCKIS bar since June 20th, 2003 and they only had the same Exhaust problems I've had, not the strut bar. But their's was a little worse than mine. AND, they had actually gotten they're exhaust replaced with a brand new unit, and all exhaust hardware pretty much.. 4k mi. later, its still fine. So I think I'm going to show them my parents' invoice as well to show them, SEE, DO THIS TO MINE!
lol..
sorry for the drawn out post, but I'm sooo frustrated.. I don't want to REPRESENT the CA Crew and all my clubs, etc, and SCION in general running around Atlanta with a PIECE OF ____ sounding exhaust system.. Its just NOT RIGHT.
Thanks for the patience and reading this.
-Tylor