The dealer-installed one?

K&N?

Anything else?

None at all?

I would go with a short ram over a cold air

I'm using the Injen short intake. I like it. From what I've read in different postings here I don't think you'll notice any huge differences in power from one to the next, although everyone says the short Injen produces the most. Just pick the one you think looks the best in your price range and go with it.

I would go with a short ram over a cold air


Wow.... I have no clue what that means :lol:

The short ram is almost straight out from the throttle body and the filter ends up below the headlight. The cold air circles behind the engine and the filter ends up somewhere over the tranny.

The dealer-installed one?

K&N?

Anything else?

None at all?
the K&N typhoon produces the most power in the xB. I would get either the K&N, AEM, or injen... which ever was cheaper... there's not too much difference in performance between these three...

Injen short ram intake........the only way to go....

K&N Typhoon!!
Just ordered one from vividracingcom. PM them. Great price on it. Better than any I found on the internet or ebay.

Later

can anyone give some numbers here about the injen and the K&N

i have the injen cai which i purchased from bbist(steve) for a great price and i am very happywith it.

anyone try this??

http://store1.vividracing.com/catalog/images/blitzfilter2a.jpg

http://store1.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1573_1844_675_990&products_id=6165

Do a search, there are number listed for each different intake.

BTW .. i have the short CIA, the one that sits behind the headlight, and love it!

i have the INJEN CAI (RD2105P), this is a 2 piece cold air intake.
i've had this intake for over 6 months & never had any problem.
when the intake is a CAI, the filter sits behind & under the drivers side headlight/bumper. when the intake is a Short Ram, the intake is tucked away next to the engine, away from the water, but close to heat. i do have a heat shield on it & i don't think there is much diff. (deflecting the heat) but it looks cool with it on.
i like the versatility with this intake. when needed (yes it does rain in Cali....somtimes) i can switch from CAI to a Short Ram in under 15 min. minimizing the chance of hydrolock.
correct me if i'm wrong, i believe that the K&N has a "dry charger" to help minimize water intake, this maybe a plus.
does anyone know if INJEN has come up with a Dry Charger? if not, i may just have to come up with something. maybe a pantyhose and spray it with water repelent. :shock: :wink: it may just work :lol:
hope this 2 cent helps.
if you need pics, might want to check my pics. (enghosr) you will see the INJEN CAI top portion only. also (airportal, where my filter sits behind the bumper air dam. Mo Air Aspirated Turbo. :wink: )

injen or dont bother

How difficult are these things to install???




And, I don't want to put one of these things in my car if I'm going to run the risk of waterlock :shock:

How difficult are these things to install??? And, I don't want to put one of these things in my car if I'm going to run the risk of waterlock :shock:

INJEN CAI (RD2105P), this is a 2 piece cold air intake. when the intake is a Short Ram, the intake is tucked away next to the engine, away from the water, i like the versatility with this intake. when needed i can switch from CAI to a Short Ram in under 15 min. minimizing the chance of hydrolock.
it took me approx. 35 min. to install without a scratch. no scratch to my xB that is. :wink:

the aem the dealer sells comes with the water bypass valve
you dont want the engine to suck in the hot engine air it is no good for performance or mpg engines like cold air the kit
is no harder to install than any other and most important the
water bypass valve to avoid hydrolock

I also did a lot of reseach on what intake to buy. I recommend injen short ram, because it is cheaper and give you more HP and torque than AEM CAI at both low and high rpm. Plus, you don't have to worry about the hydro lock issue. K&N CAI gives the highest HP at high rpm and it's cheaper than the injen's SR. I have no info on the injen CAI since injen did not provide any info on it.

Hey guys the cheapest I've found on the injen short ram system was www.infinitemotorsport.com Talk to Pujan and tell him Rich Krone from scionlife sent you. He did mine for 165 shipped and I got the black one. Usually the black one is more money. You can't get a better deal from a nicer person. He is more than helpful and can get just about anything you need. Check him out and don't let me tell you I told you so on the prices.

I put a K&N typhoon in. Noticable difference in the low rpms.
After putting my RSR GTII exhaust on I gained some noticeable hp in the high end rpms also. Overall the xB seems much more powerfull, compared to stock.

I'd say none.

intakes are a waste of time, despite what everyone says, on this vehicle.

save the $$ for an exhaust...or a turbo!

I've ridden in and drove several xB's w/ diffenrent Intakes (short and CAI) and noticed
no real diffenrece besides your MPG going down...

MPG going down? Never heard intakes doing that before...

I'd say none.

intakes are a waste of time, despite what everyone says, on this vehicle.

save the $$ for an exhaust...or a turbo!

I've ridden in and drove several xB's w/ diffenrent Intakes (short and CAI) and noticed
no real diffenrece besides your MPG going down...


Now I'm really confused :x

General rule: go with a plastic one or insulate the hell out of a metal one. Metal CAIs soak up more engine compartment heat, turning them into intake air heaters and defeating one of the main purposes of a COLD air intake (the other purpose being passing more air with less restriction). Though it doesn't look as _____in, a length of plastic hose the diameter of your throttle body or mass airflow sensor opening (any larger than that is pointless) will do the trick.

I'd say none.

intakes are a waste of time, despite what everyone says, on this vehicle.

save the $$ for an exhaust...or a turbo!

I've ridden in and drove several xB's w/ diffenrent Intakes (short and CAI) and noticed
no real diffenrece besides your MPG going down...
the K&N Typhoon adds 9.1 HP (10% increase in HP... that's HUGE!!!) for less than $200... Which exhaust did you have in mind that could even come close to adding that kind of power, much less come even close to twice the price?

I have a gripe I about the factory installed AEM CAI. The stupid thing bends every which way throughout the engine compartment (I think there is like 6 bends in the pipe). I look at the K&N CAI and the filter ends up in the same position that the AEM does, but there is a lot less pipe and it only takes like 3 bends to get there. It makes me think that the AEM version is just for looks and that makes me mad! With all the bends it restricts air flow and since it wraps around the engine and there is a lot of metal pipe, there is more of a chance that the pipe will become warm from the engine and defeat the purpose of cold air induction. I plan to get rid of my AEM and get the K&N when I can afford it.

what about the blitz short ram intake found on slstore.com... i really like what blitz does but haven't heard or seen anybody with this short ram intake...was thinking about getting this one...anybody have any comments or complaints about this choice.

Corey

the K&N Typhoon adds 9.1 HP

Where does that number come from?

the K&N Typhoon adds 9.1 HP

Where does that number come from?
Sorry, typo... It's 8.1hp... :?
Heres the link
http://www.kandn.com/dynocharts/69-8605.jpg

So the 8.1 HP difference is at that one sweet spot at 5450 RPM, but most of the time it's half that or less.

I don't doubt a better flowing intake will help performance -- though most of the improvement is in the upper RPM range, like most bolt-on mods. But the K&N dyno sheet only shows their intake versus stock (and only their very best run), not theirs versus other brands. That's because those differences are negligible. And what it doesn't show is their product versus just clamping a filter on the end of the throttle body, with no pipe -- because they're trying to sell the pipe. I'm not slamming K&N -- all performance part manufacturers do the same thing.

I'd say none.

intakes are a waste of time, despite what everyone says, on this vehicle.

save the $$ for an exhaust...or a turbo!

I've ridden in and drove several xB's w/ diffenrent Intakes (short and CAI) and noticed
no real diffenrece besides your MPG going down...

The reason why MPG goes down is usually caused by the driver revving it up more -- if the "intake roar" is there, they just want to hear it once in a while. I'm not saying that most people are like this, but this is just coming from personal experience.

In my opinion, an exhaust is even more pointless than an intake. Increasing airflow to/from an engine can only maximize the efficiency of the engine, which I personally believe to be very good in stock form, so in that effect, I agree with you. If you want more power, forced induction is the way to go.

On the other hand, an intake is only around $100-200 dollars. It's really not that much in the long run, so if you really want one, just think of it as a toy.

So the 8.1 HP difference is at that one sweet spot at 5450 RPM, but most of the time it's half that or less.

I don't doubt a better flowing intake will help performance -- though most of the improvement is in the upper RPM range, like most bolt-on mods. But the K&N dyno sheet only shows their intake versus stock (and only their very best run), not theirs versus other brands. That's because those differences are negligible. And what it doesn't show is their product versus just clamping a filter on the end of the throttle body, with no pipe -- because they're trying to sell the pipe. I'm not slamming K&N -- all performance part manufacturers do the same thing.
of all the mods that were dyno tested by owners, intake mods reaped the greatest rewards, more than a whole exhaust system (header, high flow cat, catback). Plus you can't really beat the price. Noise levers increase only negligable versus exhaust as well. I'll probably do both mods, but not nessessarily for perforance, more for "looks".

:roll:
I have the ELP CAI on my 05 Xb. My only concern is with the Air Filter itself. The filter seems so close to the ground. I have a fear of the intake taking in water while I'm driving during a rain storm.

Does ayone else have this concern???

I don't know why people think water is going to go through the filter when it rains, that part of what the filter is for. the only thing you have to worry about is bid puddles and standing water, if your filter touches the standing water you are screwed, but the filter will stop what ever dorps of rain make it to it

I really want an intake...either K and N Typhoon or Injen short ram but ive heard some bad stories about messing up the MAF and i really dont wanna void my warrenty. :? Anyone had ANY problems with the Typhoon?

bump

What's with the "bump"?

Can anyone tell me how there intake sounds. I am looking for one that is nice and loud and don't know which one to go with thank you.

What's with the "bump"?

he wants a answer to his question which was

Anyone had ANY problems with the Typhoon?

I really want an intake...either K and N Typhoon or Injen short ram but ive heard some bad stories about messing up the MAF and i really dont wanna void my warrenty. :? Anyone had ANY problems with the Typhoon?

In this forum, I heard people have some problem with check engine light becomes on. Most of them managed to fix it by resetting the CPU...

Try doing a search on "typhoon cai"

Try to make a comparison of the dyno chart among K&N, injen and AEM, and weight it with their price, you will know what to buy :wink:

DUDE, read the fine print, K&N and the other companies give estimations based on theories. There should always be a disclaimer somwehere close to to where ever they say this. The best way to test this is call them, tell them what you want, explain to them that your buddy owns a race shop with a dyno and if it doesnt gain what they say you are going to raise hell about it. They will tell you the real story.

anyone try this??

http://store1.vividracing.com/catalog/images/blitzfilter2a.jpg

http://store1.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1573_1844_675_990&products_id=6165

$140, you gotta be kidding!

FIREBALLFISH:

it's the TBE exhaust that attaches to a turbo charged car like a used WRX, which can be less than a new toaster and WAAAYYY more bang for the buck when it comes to performance.

oh yeah that TBE ads like , oh, I dunno, roughly 40 HP, which you can actually feel while you drive, starting at about 3k RPM, not 5400. the box sounds like it'll explode @ that RPM.

the toaster is not a performance vehicle, it's a box on wheels. why not just let it be?

I just laugh my ___ off when I see these performance thread for the box.

the CAI and all these other power mods for this vehicle are a joke, until you get into forced induction.

I could see handling mods, maybe, but power, what a joke!

sit back and enjoy the ride....

8)

anyone try this??

http://store1.vividracing.com/catalog/images/blitzfilter2a.jpg

http://store1.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1573_1844_675_990&products_id=6165

$140, you gotta be kidding!

I dont think I even understand what it is, or what it does, looks cool though, and I know its something for the intake but thats about it.

FIREBALLFISH:

it's the TBE exhaust that attaches to a turbo charged car like a used WRX, which can be less than a new toaster and WAAAYYY more bang for the buck when it comes to performance.

oh yeah that TBE ads like , oh, I dunno, roughly 40 HP, which you can actually feel while you drive, starting at about 3k RPM, not 5400. the box sounds like it'll explode @ that RPM.

the toaster is not a performance vehicle, it's a box on wheels. why not just let it be?

I just laugh my ___ off when I see these performance thread for the box.

the CAI and all these other power mods for this vehicle are a joke, until you get into forced induction.

I could see handling mods, maybe, but power, what a joke!

sit back and enjoy the ride....

8)
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here ^^^ in fact, I'm not even sure you've read ANY of this post. let me explain this to you as simple as I can (((breaks out crayons and construction paper))) the post is on which cold air intake would someone recommend, and since it's in the xB forum, gee go figure, he wanted to know about a cold air intake for the xB... not which exhaust adds 40 hp to a WRX... :roll: needless to say, most people posting here in the xB forum have an xB, not a WRX, perhaps you can go join www.wrxforum.com, I'm sure they'll benefit more from that information than ANY of the xb owners looking for an intake...

^^^^damn, well put^^^^

[I have had great results with the K&N. It comes with the dry charger. Seems to me, the short ram intakes still sucks up the hot air in the engine compartment. As far as hydrolock, don't drive thru water more than 2 inches deep.

i have injen 2 piece cold air intake. you will notice a small increase in acceleration with any intake, but its not going to be that significant. i say jus get the intake that looks the coolest or whatever is cheaper. weather it is 3hp, 5hp, or 9hp, u wont be able to tell the difference between those power increases.

Can anybody tell me how loud there intake sounds and which one they have. Thank you.

Can anybody tell me how loud there intake sounds and which one they have. Thank you.

you can't hear any of them.........................if you have your stereo cranked

Can anybody tell me how loud there intake sounds and which one they have. Thank you.
the shorter intakes tend to be the loudest, but all the aftermarket intakes get pretty loud at high rpms (when there is lots of overlap) as exhaust soundwaves escape through the intake valves.

Thanks for your help guys. If anyone has any input it would be greatly appreciated.

yes heat definitely is a factor t oconsider

yes heat definitely is a factor t oconsider
^^^ word. I use the foam that is made for roll bars, I've used "header wrap" before, but the foam seems to insulate better (temps are not high enough to melt the foam)

I have the 2nd gen injen short ram on my xa. It sounds great. A nice throaty growl when youre hard on the gas.

INJEN! 'nuff said.

I would go with a short ram over a cold air

I don't think there's huge difference between short ram and cai. I used to have both CAI and short ram (both Injen) on my last car (Celica), and didn't feel much difference. I would definetely go with short ram, because 1. easier to install, 2. don't need to worry about water getting in ...

yea those were part of the reason, but there is "suppose" to be larger gain