ok so ive had my scion Xb for about two weeks now yes im loving it, but in the car i traded in i had an aftermarket Xm radio. I know that the Xb head unit is xm ready and has a hook up in the back to plug something in. im not sure what that is i saw it in a previous post. what im asking is do i have to hook up just my tuner box and antena from my aftermarket xm or will i have to hook up the whole unit? or can i do either way cause i would like to keep the aftermarket head unit because i love the features it has on it. any response is appreciated
thank you
Tripp

You have to buy the XM unit from Scion, it's about $330 or so.. If I were yoy I'd just go with an aftermarket deck and get the XM tuner that way, it'll be about the same money and you'll have better sound. The stock deck really limits the sound that you can get from the factory speakers. I just upgraded to Alpine with the stock speakers and it's a world of difference.

ok so i would need to just buy a completly different deck meaning i couldnt just hook up the whole aftermakret unit to the stock unit?

Why would I have to buy the Scion XM unit? Circuit City sells XM modules for XM-ready head units for $49.99. Am I to understand that these will not work with the Scion radio? I am considering buying an XM unit but there is no way in hell will I buy the $330 part from Scion. If it turns out that you need to buy the Scion XM unit then that was a bad move on their part.

you need to buy the scion xm kit to get an oem look, if you get the $49 setup you are going to have any extra peice to install somewhere that you control your xm from.. personally i would rather get the oem look if that is what you are going for..

This is something that I too completely don't understand. Why does my Scion stock single-disc radio say XM ready if it isn't? If I have to buy a completely different Scion radio to actually get XM radio, then isn't it false advertising? Hmmm.... help me understand!

It IS XM ready, however, the only way to get it to do XM, is to buy the Scion XM unit (receiver box, just like the $49 units at Circuit City, only those are not an option with the factory deck), which is insanely priced well over $300. The $49 units at Circuit City will not work with the factory HU. About the closest thing you could do is buy the AUX harness with RCA inputs on it, and THEN spend the money on the XM Commander (not just the $49 box, I'm talking the $160 unit) so you will be able to display XM channels as well as receive the signal. Basically the only way to play XM and control XM through the HU is to buy the Scion kit. So, you're pretty much better off avoiding that, and buying an aftermarket XM ready deck and using the XM kit from CC or Best Buy. You'll have better sound and better functionality, plus integrated XM, for about the same price.

Ok, thanks for that response! Now I have another question. So, if I buy the Delphi XM MyFi personal satellite radio unit with plug and play capabilities into car and home unit, will my stock Scion single-disc radio accept this?

Only if you use the FM modulator, which in my opinion, isn't worth spending the money on XM for FM quality sound (speaking from personal experience). But yes, it will work.

So, let me get this straight...

The stock radio that says XM ready is NOT XM ready? I thought the head unit was the controller, as evidenced by the branding and the little satellite button. This is starting to sound a little fishy to me.

:evil: :evil: :evil: booo to Scion for this. It is almost as bad as charging $500 for the little LED in the dashboard and calling it an alarm.

So, let me get this straight...

The stock radio that says XM ready is NOT XM ready? I thought the head unit was the controller, as evidenced by the branding and the little satellite button. This is starting to sound a little fishy to me.

:evil: :evil: :evil: booo to Scion for this. It is almost as bad as charging $500 for the little LED in the dashboard and calling it an alarm.

It is XM ready. You are not understanding the terminology. You headunit is a controller, not a reciever of XM radio. Most Pioneer Radios are "XM ready" these days. XM ready means that it is CAPABLE of playing XM after purchasing the appropriate equipment to do this. It does not mean that it will do this out of the box. Take my radio for instance- the Pioneer AVIC-N1, it advertises on the box that it has a rear view camera controls. It does not come with the rear view camera though, that is another 250-300 bucks from Pioneer. My AVIC N1 is also "XM ready" but I have to purchase the PIONEER XM reciever box to hook it into the system.

Does this make more sense to you now?

Ok, I was thinking about putting in the XM Sat radio as well. I just have the regular radio that came with it. I too am confused about how to hook it up or get what I need. Please xplain in like second grade terms. :D Thanks!

I use wireless modulation in my Box every day. There's too much road noise to worry about "FM Quality" anyway, afaiac. I use a SkyFi, which I can use on the boombox at work and at home, while using the car docking unit in the Box, Pilot or Miata.

yeah im sorry to say but the only way to do it is at your scion dealership. The stock HU has pioneer printed on the front of it, but thats as far as it goes. It is a toyota stereo and you need a xm or sirius reciever that connects to a toyota HU, and you cant get that at bestbuy.

I agree with pniz. Keep in mind, I'm not a audio nut, but i have no problem with the rm modulator. I can then listen to it at work and home. It seems silly to pay $13 a month only to have it in your car.

ok hmmm so would it be easiest to just buy the dealer xm radio instead of gong out and buying a whole different head unit?

It would be cheaper to purchase an aftermarket head unit and the XM tuner to go with that specific head unit. You will get XM and better sound quality than the stock headunit.

I got the following from Circuit City's website. The $49 product they sell IS compatible with the Scion XB as long as you buy the appropriate digital adapter. All said and done it should cost under $100. I guess the Digital Adapter thingy is just a fancy wiring harness since they are brand specific.

The superlong URL is specifically for the Scion XB 2004.

From Circuit City Website :

http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?c=1&mobileFitAction=seeWhatFits&carId=&year=2004&make=SCION&model=XB&type=4DR+SUV&trim=WITH+1.5L+ENGINE+AND+PIONEER%AE+AUDIO+SYSTEM&carFilter=true&c=1&oid=93341

and

http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/99987/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do


From what I am able to gather, the Terk XMDirect receiver AND the Terk XMDirect digital adapter are required to get XM on the Scions...no need to buy from Scoin or to get a new head unit.

OMAC


*EDIT Sorry for the long window, I tried to make it smaller but it did not work...

YES see i have that stuff the XM commander came with the tuner box and antena so i suppose i can hook it up with that little digital adapter thing which i would gladly pay to get it installed instead of doing all that other i thank you all for your response

I got the following from Circuit City's website. The $49 product they sell IS compatible with the Scion XB as long as you buy the appropriate digital adapter. All said and done it should cost under $100. I guess the Digital Adapter thingy is just a fancy wiring harness since they are brand specific.

The superlong URL is specifically for the Scion XB 2004.

From Circuit City Website :

http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?c=1&mobileFitAction=seeWhatFits&carId=&year=2004&make=SCION&model=XB&type=4DR+SUV&trim=WITH+1.5L+ENGINE+AND+PIONEER%AE+AUDIO+SYSTEM&carFilter=true&c=1&oid=93341

and

http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/99987/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do


From what I am able to gather, the Terk XMDirect receiver AND the Terk XMDirect digital adapter are required to get XM on the Scions...no need to buy from Scoin or to get a new head unit.

OMAC


*EDIT Sorry for the long window, I tried to make it smaller but it did not work...

This still will not work unless you have an aftermarket Pioneer in-dash XM ready unit. The factory HU requires the factory tunerbox, which is the only way to be able to control XM through the factory HU. Scion made sure that you would have to buy the tuner and receiver from them. There are no extra plugs that will fit the "universal" digital adapter on the back of the factory HU, only plugs that fit the Factory Bazooka harness, and the factory XM harness. FM modulation is pretty much the only way to go. You're going to spend atleast $100 on getting XM. However, replacing the stock HU with an aftermarket one gives you the ability to digitally connect XM to your HU as well as have all around better sound, because frankly, the stock HU sucks in terms of sound quality. If you are on a budget and don't mind FM modulation (only as good as the signal of the station modulating), then by all means do so. If you'd like versatility and better digital sound, go fully aftermarket.

Well if that is the case the Head Unit that is factory standard is not XM-ready. The term XM-Ready implies that the HU will accept any XM device. It does not say Scion XM-ready... it just says XM-ready. Calling the HU XM-ready and then forcing consumers to buy the proprietary XM parts from Scion is pretty crappy. /RUDE to Scion for doing this to consumers.

Well, technically it IS XM ready. It's manufactured by Pioneer, but, it has the Scion name right on it, and on the top of the unit, there's a Toyota sticker with a part number. So, their approach to using the device to accept XM, is to buy their tuner box.

The term XM-ready implies nothing more than "with the proper equipment, this receiver CAN display and control the functions of XM radio." Proper equipment in this case being the Scion XM tuner <sarcasm> for the incredibly low price of $330 </sarcasm>.

You won't kick yourself for getting rid of the stock HU, trust me, it really does suck compared to almost anything else on the market.

They sell the cars as XM Ready, which means to customers that they will have XM when they purchased the cars. Maybe if we can get a list of people who dont agree with Scion ideas of even telling customers that there HU are XM Ready because it is extremely misleading then they will work out something with us? Any ideas

BTW, did those parts from Circuit City work. I asked someone at CC and he said probably not, I would have to go to the dealer.

I wouldn't want to work something out with Scion, and I sure wouldn't want their XM unit either. The stock HU's sound quality is very very poor. It was night and day when I switched to Alpine even with the stock speakers.

They sell the cars as XM Ready, which means to customers that they will have XM when they purchased the cars. Maybe if we can get a list of people who dont agree with Scion ideas of even telling customers that there HU are XM Ready because it is extremely misleading then they will work out something with us? Any ideas

BTW, did those parts from Circuit City work. I asked someone at CC and he said probably not, I would have to go to the dealer.

While you were at Circuit City did you ask them what "HDTV Ready" meant?

It means that you can get HDTV with a special, separately purchased tuner. This has been the standard for years. Same goes with XM Ready. If you assume that XM Ready means it has the tuner built in then that's your own fault for assuming. :P

BTW, did those parts from Circuit City work. I asked someone at CC and he said probably not, I would have to go to the dealer.

The Circuit City website has a vehicle compatability matrix, and I entered the 2004 Scion XB. If you click the really long URL in my post it should take you to the product page specifically for the 2004 Scion XB, and it has a green checkmark indicating compatability.

While you were at Circuit City did you ask them what "HDTV Ready" meant?

It means that you can get HDTV with a special, separately purchased tuner. This has been the standard for years. Same goes with XM Ready. If you assume that XM Ready means it has the tuner built in then that's your own fault for assuming. :P

Phinz, you just proved my point. Thank you.

I actually have an HDTV. I bought it from Sears. It is a 46" Philips Projection HDTV Monitor. And guess what? I can buy ANY brand HDTV tuner and get it to work with the Philips. HDTVs regardless of brand have the same frigging inputs, Y/Pb/Pr and/or DVI. I can hook any HDTV Tuner box to my Philips HDTV. I don't even have to buy the tuner from Sears to get it to work with my HDTV. In order for the Scion factory HU to play XM you have to buy the Scion branded stuff from Scion. Thier product says XM-ready, but when compared to the HDTV standard it is not. It should say 'XM-ready*', with the asterisk indicating you have to buy Scion only stuff.

It is in the Scion dealers best interest to say that you must buy their XM tuner, and until someone actually buys these parts and tries to get non-Scion XM radio parts to work with the factory HU this will remain unanswered. The Circuit City website says the Terk products will work in a 2004 Scion XB 2004, yet the Scion dealers say it won't. On one hand you have the dealers that will lose $$ for every non-Scion XM unit sold, on the other hand you have Circuit City's website saying that it is compatible. I called Circuit City and I was told that as long as the head unit says XM-Ready their stuff will work. Best Buy says I have to go through the dealership since they only deal with aftermarket radios.

For me this is the first chink in the armor for Scion. My xB has the 6CD Changer, but then again I bought mine as a used demo from the dealership so they reduced the price a good bit for me. I would not have paid for the upgraded radio otherwise. I agree with the other posters saying that the factory HU sucks and an aftermarket unit is not too far down the road for me. It would be really really nice if they offered to sell Scions without a radio at all.

Meh. A radio isn't a "chink" in armor. It's a radio. I don't understand getting XM just for your vehicle unless driving is your business and you spend a ton of time in your car. I got XM more for the office and home, with occasional road trips as a bonus.

The whole point made by BlueBoxer, quoted and responded to by me, was that if it says "XM Ready" people will think that they can automatically get XM and BB wants Toyota/Scion to "work out something." It ain't gonna happen. There's a precedent in the use of "ready" that has been known for years.

Buy an aftermarket Sony "XM-ready" radio and try to use a Panasonic XM Direct tuner. It most likely will not work. The Sony can't communicate with the Panasonic, afaik. Is this any more disingenuous?

Hey SWF 05 tC, I noticed your post about XM radio. I'm curious......which model Alpine did you end up putting in your box?

Well if that is the case the Head Unit that is factory standard is not XM-ready. The term XM-Ready implies that the HU will accept any XM device. It does not say Scion XM-ready... it just says XM-ready. Calling the HU XM-ready and then forcing consumers to buy the proprietary XM parts from Scion is pretty crappy. /RUDE to Scion for doing this to consumers.

NO. The term XM ready does NOT imply that it will accept any XM device. THIS IS NOT INDUSTRY STANDARD! Industry standard has been that if a HU is advertised as XM ready, it has the capability of playing XM with the purchase of the APPROPRIATE hardware needed for THAT RADIO! This is not just Scion, this is EVERY car audio maker.

Are you one of those people who likes to call false advertising at everything because you have to spend more money on something than you originally planned? I explained all of it to you once already. If you dont get it, then maybe you shouldnt be trying use an advanced form of radio like XM....

I describe it as a chink in the armor because thier use of the term XM-ready is questionable at best. Again, it should read 'XM-kindofready' or 'XM-sortofready'. It has confused me and at least a few others. One of the main points behind the Scion branding is 'personalization' and this goes counter to that theme.

Henry Ford once said about his Model T cars, "You can have any color you want, as long as it's black'.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Scion xB, and rave about it to anyone that will listen. I pretty much won't shut up about it and my friends and family are sick of hearing me praise and worship The Car. This little branding of the XM-ready thing in no way changes my mind about the car. There are many people and divisions that are responsible for what components go into the car, and my frustration over this matter is directed at the dork that thought this would be a good idea, not Scion as a company.

They sell the cars as XM Ready, which means to customers that they will have XM when they purchased the cars. Maybe if we can get a list of people who dont agree with Scion ideas of even telling customers that there HU are XM Ready because it is extremely misleading then they will work out something with us? Any ideas

Again, Scion is following industry standards in Car Audio by advertising a radio as XM Ready. They cannot be held responsible for your ignorance in this area.

Are you going to argue to Scion that since you saw the xB on TV with some TRD 18s that its misleading since when you came in you were hit some ugly ___ hubcaps? Would this make the car "18s ready"? :roll: As a matter of fact I remember reading the fine print in one of Scions adds and I remember it saying that XM was availible at ADDITIONAL costs.

My point is, the people in this thread who are complaining about being mislead and having to pay more money for OPTIONAL features on their cars need to stop _____ing. You have to pay to play.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Scion xB, and rave about it to anyone that will listen. I pretty much won't shut up about it and my friends and family are sick of hearing me praise and worship The Car. This little branding of the XM-ready thing in no way changes my mind about the car. There are many people and divisions that are responsible for what components go into the car, and my frustration over this matter is directed at the dork that thought this would be a good idea, not Scion as a company.

Its good that you like your car. Im happy for you. The "dork" you refer to is not one person, if he was one person- he doesnt work for Scion. The "dork" is actually the entire aftermarket 12v community that adapted the term "xm ready".

I wouldn't want to work something out with Scion, and I sure wouldn't want their XM unit either. The stock HU's sound quality is very very poor. It was night and day when I switched to Alpine even with the stock speakers.



What alpine did you go with?? I am looking to go the same route.
Thanks

When I was working at CC we offered a ton of adaptors, and parts, for tieing into stock systems.

There is a very good chance that the stuff will work, why? Because Pioneer probably used a standard harness for making the radio.

The number of wires involved in all of this is the same, it doesn't matter who makes the damn thing. But, none-the-less, Pioneer isn't going to make a special XM setup just for Scion. They may make a special plug for them, but not a whole new form of XM reciever.

So their stuff should work fine, though you might need an adaptor somewhere.

Why do I say this?

Because, for a long time, Pioneer made disk changers (probably still do) for a couple of car companies. The radio said it was a 6-disk controller, but you couldn't hook up just any CD Changer. In fact, the dealer said they were the only one who had it.

They lied. It was a standard changer, just a special cable (actually, same wires, different plug).

We sold the adaptor cable.

We also sold one for adding Alpine changers to VW's.

So don't be so quick to think the dealer is right on this one, they might be. But I spent 2 years proving they were liars on 12v topics. Actually, not all are liars, some are just ignorant.

Is it worth it? Who knows, but I wouldn't doubt that the parts are there to do it.

Well if that is the case the Head Unit that is factory standard is not XM-ready. The term XM-Ready implies that the HU will accept any XM device. It does not say Scion XM-ready... it just says XM-ready. Calling the HU XM-ready and then forcing consumers to buy the proprietary XM parts from Scion is pretty crappy. /RUDE to Scion for doing this to consumers.

NO. The term XM ready does NOT imply that it will accept any XM device. THIS IS NOT INDUSTRY STANDARD! Industry standard has been that if a HU is advertised as XM ready, it has the capability of playing XM with the purchase of the APPROPRIATE hardware needed for THAT RADIO! This is not just Scion, this is EVERY car audio maker.

Are you one of those people who likes to call false advertising at everything because you have to spend more money on something than you originally planned? I explained all of it to you once already. If you dont get it, then maybe you shouldnt be trying use an advanced form of radio like XM....

The generic term 'XM-ready' implies industry standard. My whole point is about the use of that term. When you compare the usages for HDTV-ready and XM-ready in these instances you get two vastly different results. By your own definition above, 'APPROPRIATE hardware needed for THAT RADIO' the same could be said of ANY head unit with the use of an FM modulator, AUX input or cassette adapter. By your definition I could slap an XM-ready tag on the factory head unit on my 15 year old Honda because I can use an XM radio via a cassette adapter or FM Modulator.

My point is, the people in this thread who are complaining about being mislead and having to pay more money for OPTIONAL features on their cars need to stop _____ing. You have to pay to play.

We aren't bicthing because we have to pay more., just that we have to use Scion parts.

Are you one of those people who likes to call false advertising at everything because you have to spend more money on something than you originally planned?

Are you going to argue to Scion that since you saw the xB on TV with some TRD 18s that its misleading since when you came in you were hit some ugly ___ hubcaps? Would this make the car "18s ready"? :roll:

I never used the term false advertising, nor did I expect 19" rims on my Scion when I bought it. However, if you bought your Scion xB and later found out that ONLY rims from Scion would fit on it wouldn't you get ____ed off about that?

As a matter of fact I remember reading the fine print in one of Scions adds and I remember it saying that XM was availible at ADDITIONAL costs.

Again, we aren't _____ing about paying more for optional stuff, just _____ing about paying more than we should have to - $300 vs $99.

I understand your point. You are arguing that they are compliant because they can get a single XM product to work with their system. My point is they are not compliant because of the exact same reason.

I explained all of it to you once already. If you dont get it, then maybe you shouldnt be trying use an advanced form of radio like XM....

Just because we do not have the same opinion on this matter is no reason to get ____y with me and insult me or others in this thread. Stop taking this personally and get over it.

One thing to note, as I said above, usually, each manufacturer has one standard for their plugs of a type.

For instance, kenwood has one cable for controlling their disk changers (this changes from year to year, but they do have an internal standard).

So you will not be able to get a Pioneer XM kit to work with an Alpine, it should work on all pioneer systems that say "XM Ready". Now, it might change from year to year as new options come available (like alpine has a regular shuttle cable and an AI Net cable), but they will have a standard.

They do this to save money, internally. It would cost Pioneer a bunch if they had 5 variations of the XM kit floating around. It would confuse their customers, cost more to make and wouldn't sell as well.

Has any on put the XM in. My question is how do you install the antenna?

That is , how do you thread the wiring so you can put the antenna on the roof?

I plan on getting an XM Roadie or something like that with a car and home
base.

Thanks.

I wouldn't want to work something out with Scion, and I sure wouldn't want their XM unit either. The stock HU's sound quality is very very poor. It was night and day when I switched to Alpine even with the stock speakers.



What alpine did you go with?? I am looking to go the same route.
Thanks

I am using the CDA-9827 right now. It has AM/FM/CD (with cd text) and is XM and Sirius ready. Blue and green face colors, detachable face, no motorized face to break. Came with a wireless full function remote, 3 4-volt pre-outs, and uses Alpine's "Bass Engine" and MX technology. And can also be connected to Alpine's variations of different media control devices, as Alpine is making this an internal standard now.

it comes out to be the same price in the end i just got the factory setup clean install no extra controllers or crap hanging off the dash sounds great has factory warranty its all designed to work together was only $300.00 easy to
install no problems
there are lots of head units that play mp3 and are sat ready
if you go aftermarket that sound and work great and you may
pay 300/350 depending on what you get .

I wanted to add one more thing about the debate between "industry standard" and "internal standard". The XM functionality that Scion offers on their Pioneer HU's is an "internal standard".. XM is not industry standard, as stated before, only certain equipment will work with certain receivers. This saves companies money, time, and confusion. Chances are, if you bought your HDTV from Scion, and it has a big old Scion logo on the front with a Toyota part number on the back, any old HDTV receiver wouldn't work with it. This is the exact reason these companies do this, to make more money, by keeping the "internal standard" for the products they offer. This is also why you can go buy ANY XM or Sirius ready HU and buy the approriate adapter and it will work perfectly, because that standard is being applied. ALL of these units are XM or Sirius ready. All that means is that they will accept and control the transmission of that certain service as long as the correct parts are used. Scion's not lying to you by saying their HU is XM ready, it is, all you have to do is buy the Scion XM kit. Case closed. If you want XM, you might as well go aftermarket anyway, you get better sound all around for the same price.

So the Terk will not work with the Scions and it may be better off to get an aftermarket radio with xm installed on that?

To sum it all up If you want to use the stock Scion headunit to control the XM satellite, you MUST I repeat you MUST purchase the dealer setup. The CC adapter will not work, the headunit is made by Pioneer but it is a Toyota product. I went through this whole process over a year ago when the XM option was around $600 from the dealer.

THERE IS NO WAY TO USE THE FACTORY HEADUNIT AS THE XM CONTROLLER WITHOUT THE DEALER OPTIONAL XM TUNER.


And as a side note Alpine does sell a head unit with the tuner and controller built into it, all you need is the antenna. Here is the link to Cruthfield with that unit. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-pcXi6FGiFUL/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=205350&I=500CDA9820

I will buy the items from the Circuit City website site, if it doesnt work I will take it back to them and get a refund. Can someone give me a quick run down on how to install it or email me at . Because I dont know how to install anything. Is there a previous post with some install photos. I will let you all know if it works.

I can save you your time and money by having you read the post above yours. The CC adapter will not work. Trust me there is only one option if you want to keep the factory unit as the XM controller and that is the dealer tuner.

The adapter CC sells is for aftermarket radios only. There is an XM Direct adapter for factory installed XM Ready radios. They sell for $299 plus installation and are available only through the vehicle dealers. And they do not make one for the Scion. Still need further information click on the link below.

http://www.xmradio.com/xm_direct/factory_installed.jsp

Thanks,
Nevermind, I wont purchase it.
I was looking to getting the XM Commander, anyone have that? Like it?

I have the Roadie 2 That I move from my car to my office to my home. The FM modulation in the car sounds horrible. When it is wired through my home stereo it sounds great.

I should also let you know that there is an adapter available that can be used with the Roadie and I believe the Commander that plugs into the Scion headunit. It is called a P.I.E Adapter which is used to hook up Ipod's and other accesories to the factory headunit's that have disc changer ports on the headunits. Here is a link with more info. I don't have any experience with these things.

http://www.logjamelectronics.com/pietoy03aux.html

It also looks like they now have an adapter that lets you install a certain Pioneer XM tuner to the factory headunit through the PIE adapter. I have never seen this before.

scion has just lowerd the price of their xm tuner to compete with the universal units just released by xm and terk its now around $300 just in case anyone was intrested in the factory unit

wow im just suprised my one simple question stirred up so much stuff and i still have no idea of what will work but from what i hear i will have to buy a different head unit so if i do that id hate to buy just any regualr xm ready unit anyone know where to get a in dash dvd player possibly with navigation that is xm ready??

i think eclipse makes one kinda spendy but very high quality and a unusual warranty that was very good

I have the Roadie 2 That I move from my car to my office to my home. The FM modulation in the car sounds horrible. When it is wired through my home stereo it sounds great.

Have you tried changing channels? I have to use 88.3 in Atlanta because of bleedover from other channels anywhere else, but here in Knoxpatch 107.3 works best. My workmate uses 88.1 at the office, and I can listen to his SkyFi2 through my stereo when I want to hear what he's listening to (though I usually just listen to my own SkyFi in the office)

This is just a confusing thing to do....I guess I am still confused. I just want something that will sound good, and will work. Grrr.

So go aftermarket. If you spend $300 through Scion, it will only ever sound as good as stock.. and if you upgrade from there, you're out the $300.

Buy a new deck and the appropriate XM tuner. You're welcome. :-)

Okay, I stopped by the Scion dealer where I bought my 2004 Scion xB. I spoke with the Scion Brand Manager and put the question to her. I did not speak to anyone in service, but the person responsible for Scion car and accessory sales.

I was told with absolute conviction and without hesitation that aftermarket XM units ARE compatible with the factory head unit. They said that as long as it was XM branded it would work, and the Scion XM unit is not required.

I guess the only thing to do is to take your Scion to Circuit City and try to have one installed. If it works it works, if it doesn't you won't get charged.

Now on a related subject, after actually LOOKING at my my Scion head unit I noticed that the logo actually says 'Sat Ready' or something to that effect, not actually XM-Ready. Not that it matters at this point anymore.

If anyone has any questions about who I spoke with and at what dealership feel free to email me at jgkelly@gmail.com. I will reply with the name and phone number of the person I spoke with. I do not want to post this persons name and number without them knowing.

So now, I guess its easy to say that you can basically get whatever you want, and it will work...and if you wanted to go with Scion, then you could, if not, you could get an aftermarket radio and Sat. So you could still keep your headunit, and go with the TERK and only spend $100 or so rather than $300. Thats how I am reading it. Let me know if I am right. Thanks!!!

So this means the XM will work through our stock HU right? I just dont want one of those ugly little XM screens on my dash or wherever people put them.. looks out to place regardless of where you mount it.

Yes, according to the Scion Brand Manager where I bought my Scion the aftermarket stuff will work. Go to circuitcity.com and look up the XM radio parts in the automotive section, then you can use their compatibility matrix to see if it will work with whatever car you have.

Better than paying an arm and a lef, you only have to pay an arm.

there is nothing to be confused about. the info on the aftermarket units is scetchy thus causeing missinformation
to be leaked out i work at a toyota dealer and tryed this seeking of info in september for myself and my customers
untill they make an adapter so you can use the factory head unit as a xm controller for the universal xm reciver the only
choices so far are factory stuff a complete aftermarket system or one of those fm modulated jobs by the way i was told by blitzsafe.com in november by dec they would have an adapter for the scion/toyota. comes dec i givem a call and the say no we plan to develop one in the future right now we are working on ford adapters for this app ... i was dissapointed i say we givem a call (201) 569-5000 and
express the need to develop the necc parts i mean c,mon its
not like scions or toyotas are not popular strength in numbers

Okay, I stopped by the Scion dealer where I bought my 2004 Scion xB. I spoke with the Scion Brand Manager and put the question to her. I did not speak to anyone in service, but the person responsible for Scion car and accessory sales.

I was told with absolute conviction and without hesitation that aftermarket XM units ARE compatible with the factory head unit. They said that as long as it was XM branded it would work, and the Scion XM unit is not required.

I guess the only thing to do is to take your Scion to Circuit City and try to have one installed. If it works it works, if it doesn't you won't get charged.

Now on a related subject, after actually LOOKING at my my Scion head unit I noticed that the logo actually says 'Sat Ready' or something to that effect, not actually XM-Ready. Not that it matters at this point anymore.

If anyone has any questions about who I spoke with and at what dealership feel free to email me at jgkelly@gmail.com. I will reply with the name and phone number of the person I spoke with. I do not want to post this persons name and number without them knowing.

That manager is wrong. You need a special harness and the Scion XM tuner to work with the factory radio. This is something Terk does not supply. You still have no option other than factory if you're using the factory deck. It has already been tried and the result was a failure.

I actually called Terk a few weeks ago about compatability. They indicated the Terk unit would not work with the Scion XB

Does anyone have the Roady or Roady 2 in their car? Can you also use the Delphi XM SKYFi or the XMCommander in the car?

ok so ive had my scion Xb for about two weeks now yes im loving it, but in the car i traded in i had an aftermarket Xm radio. I know that the Xb head unit is xm ready and has a hook up in the back to plug something in. im not sure what that is i saw it in a previous post. what im asking is do i have to hook up just my tuner box and antena from my aftermarket xm or will i have to hook up the whole unit? or can i do either way cause i would like to keep the aftermarket head unit because i love the features it has on it. any response is appreciated
thank you
Tripp

E-Mail to sales@indoaudio.com They have the pioneer (GEX P910XM) module with the mini antenna for $135.00 plus shipping this the same unit as the Toyota option from Pioneer that will plug into the stock unit

Does anyone have the Roady or Roady 2 in their car? Can you also use the Delphi XM SKYFi or the XMCommander in the car?

Again...
I use an XM SkyFi with a wireless FM modulator. Works fine for me. Roady 2 and SkyFi 2 both have FM Modulators built in.

well, I own the $49 XMDirect unit and $49 pioneer adapter... the connector from this unit will only connect to the Pioneer aftermarket head units... the Scion deck does have a similar connector, but as for now, there is no way to connect the two...

I spent $450 TOTAL for the pioneer p5000mp DVD player (no screen) and the XM units, they work as expected... you can get a pioneer xm deck NEW & DELIVERED for under $100 from ebay...

I have the same problem with my XM Delphi module. I purchased the FM Modulator and it is working fine. A few problems in LA when I am around strong stations near the band but almost 95% of the time it works fine.

I have the same problem with my XM Delphi module. I purchased the FM Modulator and it is working fine. A few problems in LA when I am around strong stations near the band but almost 95% of the time it works fine.

replace the wireless FM modulator with a wired one, this will disconnect the physical antenna from the deck.... or as another option, put a small switch to turn off the FM booster, this might work well for this setup...

a pioneer xm tuner will not plug right into the back of the scion radio. Pioneer after market uses what is called a IP-BUS cable now if you can get and adapter to go from IP-BUS to the connection in the back of the factory unit you are in luck but I dont think there is such a thing out there. Also you would have to buy a pioneer XM antenna....I work at a stereo shop and we sell pioneer, I drive a xb and I have an aftermarket pioneer deh-p8600mp in mine so I will get the pioneer xm tuner in the future and plug it right in.....You can believe me if you want, or you can try to do it your way, I dont care just don't post right after this telling me I am wrong and try to belittle me.

a pioneer xm tuner will not plug right into the back of the scion radio. Pioneer after market uses what is called a IP-BUS cable now if you can get and adapter to go from IP-BUS to the connection in the back of the factory unit you are in luck but I dont think there is such a thing out there. Also you would have to buy a pioneer XM antenna....I work at a stereo shop and we sell pioneer, I drive a xb and I have an aftermarket pioneer deh-p8600mp in mine so I will get the pioneer xm tuner in the future and plug it right in.....You can believe me if you want, or you can try to do it your way, I dont care just don't post right after this telling me I am wrong and try to belittle me.

you can get the XM direct for your P8600MP for about 1/2 the price... I picked my unit up last week for $99 at bestbuy... I had some cash back coupons, so I really paid less, but... everyone carries the XMDirect units for $99... EVEN CRUTCHFIELD!!!

I bought the Roady 2, and now I am wondering how I should hook it up. I didnt want to go through paying 400 dollars to get the factory one, where I could get something different, like the Roady and hook it up. If you could, could you send some pictures this way too so I can figure out how to plug it in, and hook it up. I know you need some additional adapters and what not in order to plug it into the head unit. What exactly do I need, and if I can get some pictures it would be great!

for those of you who did not byu their scion yet toyota announced in feb of 05 they will offer both xm and or sirrus for 9 of their vehiclesim shure scion will be in the lineup as well .
good stuff will be here soon...

I bought the Roady 2, and now I am wondering how I should hook it up. I didnt want to go through paying 400 dollars to get the factory one, where I could get something different, like the Roady and hook it up. If you could, could you send some pictures this way too so I can figure out how to plug it in, and hook it up. I know you need some additional adapters and what not in order to plug it into the head unit. What exactly do I need, and if I can get some pictures it would be great!

Just use the built in wireless FM modulator. No connection to the head unit needed.

a pioneer xm tuner will not plug right into the back of the scion radio. Pioneer after market uses what is called a IP-BUS cable now if you can get and adapter to go from IP-BUS to the connection in the back of the factory unit you are in luck but I dont think there is such a thing out there. Also you would have to buy a pioneer XM antenna....I work at a stereo shop and we sell pioneer, I drive a xb and I have an aftermarket pioneer deh-p8600mp in mine so I will get the pioneer xm tuner in the future and plug it right in.....You can believe me if you want, or you can try to do it your way, I dont care just don't post right after this telling me I am wrong and try to belittle me.

you can get the XM direct for your P8600MP for about 1/2 the price... I picked my unit up last week for $99 at bestbuy... I had some cash back coupons, so I really paid less, but... everyone carries the XMDirect units for $99... EVEN CRUTCHFIELD!!! Yep, and too me going aftermarket on the HU is the only way to go, it really brought the most out of the stock speakers in my box. To each his own though, if you want to stay stock go with the roadie 2, wireless fm modulation and it is plug and play...

I went with the Sirius setup....and it doesn't look "nice "installed w/2 wires hanging....On the other hand....the price was right....free for the device :) ....In order to get the radio free I paid for an annual subscription upfront....and they do charge sales tax and shipping charges....Bottomline: My total was $168.94 for everything delivered (all auto parts/cables for mounting) and a 1 year subscription....

I bought mine thru the Howard Stern promotion (which is over)....but was told by a friend that if you go to the sirius.com website and select "Get Sirius"....then click "Visit Sirius Direct"....and enter the Promotion Code of 70....that you can still get a receiver free....It is a different receiver than I have so I can't comment about its quality/sound....and my friend hasn't received his yet....

Mine is great and I am rather pleased....The thing about satellite radio for me was whether I would actually use it long term....The promotion gave me a chance to try it out at a reasonable price....If I don't like it....or find I am not really using it later (like when the novelty wears off!)....I can drop the service 12 months from now without having put out a ton of $'s....

Julie

I bought the Roady 2, and now I am wondering how I should hook it up. I didnt want to go through paying 400 dollars to get the factory one, where I could get something different, like the Roady and hook it up. If you could, could you send some pictures this way too so I can figure out how to plug it in, and hook it up. I know you need some additional adapters and what not in order to plug it into the head unit. What exactly do I need, and if I can get some pictures it would be great!

feel free to try the above recommendation to just use the wireless FM modulator, but trust me, you will hate it... if you travel, live in a big city or even near a big city you will hate the wireless setup... I tried to do this with my carpc, and it sucked, you had to adjust the station every 100 miles or so, because without fail the station I was using was gonna be used in the next town... spend the $25 and pickup a FM modulator from Bestbuy, etc and just plug it in... the setup is super simple and it gives you a set of RCAs to hook your unit too, the wired modulator actually disconnects the antenna when it is in use, I wired up a friends suburban and HE LOVES IT... the quality is every bit as good as FM, which is plenty in a noisy environment like DRIVING...

OK
well i just wanted to thank you all for your response, and i didnt expect so many people to respond but what im going to do is go to BestBuy next time i get the chance and ask them if it will work or what they have to do to get it work without buying an aftermarket cd player, i am short on cash it being so close to christmas.
I will be letting yall know if they were able to make it work i wouldnt be so worried about it if i had cash and i would just buy me an aftermarket cd player that is XM ready or dvd player (thats would i would perfer) but anyways i just wanted to say i thank you all for your response
ohh and i noticed some of you talking about joining with sirius just a quick note look at thier stock and try to find out how much in debt they are might not be around for too long so the guy that got the 1 year subscription might be out some cash in the end just a tip.