I'm relatively new to MT but I'm getting the hang of it. I didn't really know of a good way to put the term but when accelerating hard and shifting at 5700rpm the tires will loose grip and screach. This is usualy only from 1st to 2nd but sometimes from 2nd to 3rd.

What I want to know is: Is this a result of poor shifting or is that just how it is? If it is because of shifting, on my part (which it probably is), then how do I stop the tires from loosing grip when I shift to second?

It would be very helpful if someone could explain the correct technique/method to me sense it's hard to tell me what I'm doing wrong when you can't see me.

 

From my understanding is that chirping the tires when shifting is actually a good thing because it's the engine's sweet spot where it produces most/all of it's power, and when it shifts, it has so much that it makes the tires chirp.

 

That's what I was hoping. I was afraid that it was because of weight transfer due to slow shifting even though I shift pretty fast, IMO.

 

Chirping gears doesnt really mean your a great driver. With a new clutch anyone can do it.

It means your keeping the momentum of the motors power, as well as fast shifts and fast clutch release.

I can spin all 2nd in my Mx6 :D
No chirping for me.

 

Yeah, 260hp (or was it 240?) will help with that ^_^. I actualy have never gone for a full burnout at high revs yet. I'm interested at what the tc can do as far as burnouts, but I'm also scared to put the car through that sense I don't know exactly what I'm doing. Most I've droped the clutch at was 3k rpm.

 

Well kindof a funny story seeing as I now know the burnouts in the tC. Long story short friend Omar (very knowledgeble about cars and very into tuners/modifying/racing) wants to drive it, me being stupid agree (I know he wont fu** anything up other then the tires) So he gets a quick feel for the car, drops it at 4.5 (i think?) and proceeds to burnout for ohh... 9 seconds or so.. chirps 2nd and 3rd along the way. So yeah there go my tires but it was fun I have done all kinds of lil chirps in 2nd but none in 3rd yet. My MT skills are getting better every day so hopefully (plus I just passed my own lil breakin period of 1000 miles) I'll be driving like this beautiful car was made to be driven real soon.

 

can someone explain to me pretty much how to race like from a standing start?

 

Not to say that this is the right way, but it's the way I do it.

Rev to around 2.5-3k rpm and when it's time, drop the clutch (release clutch and hit full throttle). It's all pretty self-explanitory from there. Just keep on the gas and shift quickly through the gears. Oh, and make sure you shift at 5700rpm each time.

This is assuming your tC is stock.... and manual. If it's automatic then just rev to about 3-4k in neutral, switch to D, hit the gas and hope for the best?

 

cool thanks wen u mean drop the clutch is it like bam and all the way out? or is like rev then go barely before friction point and slowly move it out, will it bog if u just drop it instantly? sorry guys im just in a learning process, im 16 and had this car for a month and almost hit 1000 miles on it, wanna have some fun wiht it

 

why 5700??? and why 2.5 or 3k???i hit that bad boy 4 or even 4 half and pop the clutch...and shift at 6200 if you ask me shifting at 5700 you are losing alot of power...the vvti opens around 4k so you probably be dropping the needle pretty far down if you aint powershifting...

 

"Yeah, 260hp (or was it 240?) will help with that ^_^. I actualy have never gone for a full burnout at high revs yet. I'm interested at what the tc can do as far as burnouts, but I'm also scared to put the car through that sense I don't know exactly what I'm doing. Most I've droped the clutch at was 3k rpm."

burning out with this car is pretty impressive, espcially considering it is a front wheel drive

 

I got a question for you, how much do your tires spin when you do that? I know if I pop the clutch any higher than 3K, I'll get wheelspin. Also, if you look at the dyno sheets, power starts to drop off around 5700rpm. You'll have more power in the next gear.

 

That's why you rev the engine. So it doesn't bog on you. Even if you don't rev you can still pop the clutch. As long as your fast it will be fine.

I drop the clutch at as low rpm as I can before the engine starts to bog down in the beginning. I found 2.5-3k to be the seat spot. After that the tires are spinning unecissarily and you're losing grip/speed.
Well the peak hp is at 5700, so after that you get less torque than you would get if you were to shift. I haven't really taken vvt-i into consideration because I don't know what it does but like ScummyMcOwnage said, dyno readings show that power drops off after 5700 anyway.

I haven't really measuerd but I think they spin for the better part of 1st gear. But that's not much considering how quickly the tC gets out of first. I think it's just enough so that the engine pulls hard through 1st without bogging down at the beginning but without too much loss of traction.

 

you want to shift around 6k yeah you get max power at 5700 but you want the next gear to be higher in it's powerband so when you shift at 6k you're still making more power then you would if you shifted at 5700 and started the next gear lower in it's powerband. now i'm no expert this is just what i'v noticed from my experiences, if i'm wrong someone please correct me

 

5700 is where peak hp and torque is. Also, just so you know, vvti doesn't "open" at any specific rpm, it's constant...please go educate yourself on your own car.

 

"you want to shift around 6k yeah you get max power at 5700 but you want the next gear to be higher in it's powerband so when you shift at 6k you're still making more power then you would if you shifted at 5700 and started the next gear lower in it's powerband. now i'm no expert this is just what i'v noticed from my experiences, if i'm wrong someone please correct me"

i think you're right. i've always noticed that too.

 

I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the advice.

 

If you do that, you can kiss your tranny goodbye. If it's automatic, leave it in drive and brake-torque it. As in left foot on the brake, right foot on the gas and hold it that way... with the brake down all the way and about 2000rpm worth of throttle. If you hear a slight groaning sound and the rear of the car starts to settle, you're giving it to much gas.. Increase the throttle a little bit as you get ready to lift the brake (when you release it, don't slowly do it pop it), and right as you release just floor it. Gets you a much better launch than just flooring it in the first place, your transmission will love you for it.

 

Oops, sorry. I guess I'm not used to racing AT.

 

Just don't get pulled over and add to the statistic and make my insurance rates higher, please. And don't hurt/kill any innocent people in the process, just yourself is fine.