OK guys, the info posted here is great... and normally that'd be all the info I'd want... BUT I've fallen in LOVE with a set of wheels that are discontinued.... I've only found them in 2 places that have any left... one has a set of 16's in a silver finish that'll work... BUT one place has in stock 17's in a polished finish that I'd much rather have, they are 17 x 7.5 with an offset of 45... I'm really stupid when it comes to wheels and I'll admit it. I see the fitment chart showing a max offset of 40... Can I use spacers to compensate? I really have my heart set on these rims and want to see if there is anyway to make this happen..

any and all help appreciated.i had a set of konigs that i got not knowing that it would take so much work to get them to look right. your going to need 25mm spacers in the rear and maybe the 10mm OTG shim. and in the front 15-25mm spacers. trust me its not worth it

here is the run down
H&R 25mm spacers are runing about 190-180 a set
H&R 15mm spacers about 170-160 a set
OTG 10mm shims are 70+shipping
so thats about $450 give or take on parts alone.

i did the math and said hell no that why i picked up a set of rims the are 40mm much less work.

I had bought a set of 17x7 enkei pkr's with a 42 offset.I have heard that they fit with no rubbing, but has anyone seen how this holds up with a 1.5 inch drop, and will the drop affect the tire size I choose? I know dumb question, but this is the first car I have owned that is not 30 years old , the tolerances seem alot tighter on the box! I plan to do the drop at the same time as my rim install and any advice would be great!Any tire recomendations would be great! Will I need shims?

20X7.5...45offset...Kyowa Racing...KR211...hyper silver (Taiwan, single piece...very nice)

225X30X20 tires, Tirerack.com, General Exclaim UHP (Ultra High Performance)

Rubbing reduced when removing 5mm spacers in front and back, and 15 mm shims from back hubs....now looking into fender roller...expecially in the front part of the front wheel wells.....I AM NOT TAKING OUT MY TRD LOWERING SPRINGS>>>THEY LOOK HOT.

AND THE RIDE IS SOFTER THAN THREE YEARS OF COMMUTING TO WASHINGTON DC ON PERELLI 225x35x 19 PZERO NEROs.....SOFTER YES, not just new wheel jive either.

I HAVE 20'S AND THEY ARE GOING TO WORK!!!!

i've gotten together a list, though i'm sure it's not complete, of "stock" wheels that will fit the xB/xA if anyone is interested. the CB is not always the 54.1, it is larger on some, but i think there are adapters that can be used.

I'm looking at getting some SportMax 006's in the 17x9 35mm offset. How would you guys recommend spacing the wheels out to get some nice fender flare action? I'm looking for just a bit of spacing as this is a daily driver, not insane VIP spacing. Also, would it just be smarter to go with the 17x7 40mm offset to avoid rubbing?

Question about too big a tire and throwing off speed and mileage.

ive got 17" wheels with 225-45 tires on them. According to this thread "when your odometer shows 1000 miles, you will actually have traveled 948.09 miles"

My question is this. My mileage shows that i get about 250-260 miles between fillups on these wheels. If i swap back to stock, i get 300-320 miles between fillups. Also if i measure the little mile markers on the highway i get .9 miles (shown on my odometer) for every 1 mile marker. Am I missing something or is that statement above the exact opposite of what would happen?

Im thinking it should say: When your odometer says 948.09 miles, you will actually have traveled 1000 miles.

I would like to add my setup, 04 XA on a 17x7 +45 offset with 215/45/17 tires. Unfortunately I have to use a 1/4 inch spacer (pepboys) all around. The front tire rubs a little at full lock and the back has about 3-5mm between the rim and suspension arm.

I am planning to install Tein H springs in a couple of months. I wonder if there will be a problem. :(

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/47981_1.jpg

Hey, noticed that there isnt a 20 listed on the first page...

20x7.5........+35.........225/30/25.............needs fenders rolled, sideskirts trimmed, front and rear fenderlinings removed...

to add to redneckwithan xb +45 offset also fits with the same modifications

Question about too big a tire and throwing off speed and mileage.

ive got 17" wheels with 225-45 tires on them. According to this thread "when your odometer shows 1000 miles, you will actually have traveled 948.09 miles"

My question is this. My mileage shows that i get about 250-260 miles between fillups on these wheels. If i swap back to stock, i get 300-320 miles between fillups. Also if i measure the little mile markers on the highway i get .9 miles (shown on my odometer) for every 1 mile marker. Am I missing something or is that statement above the exact opposite of what would happen?

Im thinking it should say: When your odometer says 948.09 miles, you will actually have traveled 1000 miles.

If you plug the stock size (185/60-15) and your size 225/45-17 into the tire calculator here:

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/brochure/info/tmpInfoTireMathNS.jsp

it shows your tires are nearly 4" more in circumference than stock tires - or about 5%. more. Since your tires are larger than stock, you will be going FASTER than indicated when compared to the OEM tires by about 5%. You will also go farther than indicated by 5% - so if your odo says you drove 100 miles, you really went about 105 miles.

Keep in mind that the same "size" tire can vary in section width and diameter from other models and brands in the same "size" - but not by enough to make that much difference.

Dennis

If you are running 195/60R15 on a Scion, you are already taller than factory spec (185/60R15). if you run a 225/45R17 on a Scion, you will be 5.19% taller than factory setting. This is even taller than the 215/35R19 tires for the 19" application. There's a good chance you're going to see rubbing issues, plus at 50mph, you will be going 52.6mph and when your odometer shows 1000 miles, you will actually have traveled 948.09 miles. It's recommended to stay within 3% of OE sizing if you want to keep the speedometer and odometer accurate. I'd go 215/40R17. If you'd like a bit more meat, then perhaps 225/40R17 which is only 1.46% larger than stock.

Alchemist is right...

I believe the odometer statement is backwards, when you have traveled 1000 actual miles, your odometer will read 948.1 miles. 1 rotation of the bigger will covers more distance that the stock odometer is calculated for... same reason why you are actually going faster than the speedometer reads.

I drive a lifted truck running 37" BFGs I've been down this road before...

A stock tire on an xB (circ = 74.58in) rotates 849.54 times per mile (at any speed) increasing tire diameter (and circumfrence) lowers this number. Alchemist is running a 225/45/17 (circ = 78.45in) which rotates 807.61 times per mile. Basically, the computer says to it's self the axles are turning at 849.54 times per minute, I will reflect a speed of 60 mph and log one mile on the odometer every ~850 turns. So on the 850th turn the odometer clicks from .9 to 1.0, but Alchem already passed that point on tire turn 808. Thus, hiding the extra 42 turns and the extra 206.6ft Alchemist traveled.

So when I trade my F-250 with 107K miles on it running 37" tires and stock gears, I will know that I actually drove my truck closer to 125K miles... it adds up over time. Keep track of this for percise drivetrain maintenance... or get your car recalibrated.

Thought I'd share my experience. I just got a set of Konig Rewinds - 15x7 - 4x100 - +20 offset for my 2006.5 xB. Perfect fit in my opinion. Brings the wheels out to a flush point, and does not rub anywhere. I should mention that I used 205/55R15 tires. I do not have a drop...yet.

Pictures available at: http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=171952

Where is a good place to buy wheels?

www.edgeracing.com
www.victoriatire.com
www.wheelsnext.com

www.edgeracing.com
www.victoriatire.com
www.wheelsnext.com

Thanks for the links.

Thought I'd share my experience. I just got a set of Konig Rewinds - 15x7 - 4x100 - +20 offset for my 2006.5 xB. Perfect fit in my opinion. Brings the wheels out to a flush point, and does not rub anywhere. I should mention that I used 205/55R15 tires. I do not have a drop...yet.

I'd love to see some pics. Do you know how much they weigh?

www.edgeracing.com
www.victoriatire.com
www.wheelsnext.com

Thanks for the links.

not a problem...

Thought I'd share my experience. I just got a set of Konig Rewinds - 15x7 - 4x100 - +20 offset for my 2006.5 xB. Perfect fit in my opinion. Brings the wheels out to a flush point, and does not rub anywhere. I should mention that I used 205/55R15 tires. I do not have a drop...yet.

I'd love to see some pics. Do you know how much they weigh?

I added the link in my original post at the top of this page. Here it is... http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=171952

I only used a bathroom scale to weigh them. I think the wheel and tire combo came in around 37 lbs. I believe the wheel was 14.6 lbs according to another website I found.

okay, dropping my xa tommorow (eibach) 1.6 in drop in the front, 1.8 in the rear...my question is-What would u guys recommend for tires/wheels when the time comes? I want a silver looking alloy ~17s or 18s? something probably 7 spokes, and i would like the tires/wheels flush with fenders! please throw me some suggestions!!!

alright so 15x8 wheels. Dropped on Tanabe springs, 205/60/15 would be good?

anyone know if 17x7.5 w/ a 42mm offset will fit? I'm on air suspension if that matters.

That shouldn't be a problem... I'm 18x7.5 et42... so 17" should be just fine.

Hello,

I'm buying some wheel for my girls Xa and I was wondering what offset do I need to have wheels to sit flush on fender....


Also, will 17 's with the trd drop...leave a large gap or just go 18's


Any pictures would be kool for my gf and all.

alright so 15x8 wheels. Dropped on Tanabe springs, 205/60/15 would be good?


i want to know the same. im also currently lowered on tanabe springs and have 205/50/16 and having some rubbing issues and now interested in getting some 15x8
should i go with 195 or 205? and 40 or 45?

brian hit me up.

i have df210s and am looking to get some 17x7.5 wheels on 215 40 series tires, if i get 35 offset in the front and 20 offset in the back will that be pretty even? would there be any rubbing?

Buddy Club 16x7" 45mm offset P1 Racing QF's + Falken ZE512 205/50R16 + OTG 10mm spacers + 1" drop = 30lb wheels and one nice lookin ride :P

expencive but... would be pretty nice :silly:

So i'm looking for a set of wheels and a set of tires to match my 07 BSP xB.

I came across these 16" ASA ar1s that i like, the picture on tirerack looks like its a 5 bolt pattern, but the site has it listed as a 4 bolt pattern.

Also, when looking for tires, tirerack recommended/and i like a 205/50-16. i didn't see that size on the 1st-Gen Wheel & Tire buyers guide, so will these tires fit?

205/50-16 should fit just fine. about 8/10th's of an inch wider tire track and about a half inch over all diameter size diffrence so it would be just fine.

I'll admit I didn't read through all 14 pages of posts, but I thought I'd toss this out there...

The Mazda Miata has the same bolt pattern (4x100) and center bore (54.1) as the stock XB rims (according to the chart on page one...)

Lots of choices there... and since the Miatas are so widely run on the track, there are a lot more rims choices... only "drawback" is that they sometimes in a RWD type of offset, like 30mm.

Do you folks know about this URL yet?

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

An offset calculator :)

According to that, a 7 inch wide rim with a 30mm offset would be +5mm closer to the strut housing and +21mm towards the outside of the car... I'm really leaning towards these rims for the box... http://www.flyinmiata.com/wheels/KZ-M-MX.php moving my 205/60/15s over to em.

Oh yes. 60 series... so nice and comfy and quiet inside! And they still handle/stick much nicer then the stock tires did.

I'll admit I didn't read through all 14 pages of posts, but I thought I'd toss this out there...

The Mazda Miata has the same bolt pattern (4x100) and center bore (54.1) as the stock XB rims (according to the chart on page one...)

Lots of choices there... and since the Miatas are so widely run on the track, there are a lot more rims choices... only "drawback" is that they sometimes in a RWD type of offset, like 30mm.

Do you folks know about this URL yet?

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

An offset calculator :)

According to that, a 7 inch wide rim with a 30mm offset would be +5mm closer to the strut housing and +21mm towards the outside of the car... I'm really leaning towards these rims for the box... http://www.flyinmiata.com/wheels/KZ-M-MX.php moving my 205/60/15s over to em.

Oh yes. 60 series... so nice and comfy and quiet inside! And they still handle/stick much nicer then the stock tires did.

you may want to go with 205/55/15, with 205/55/15 it's already bigger in diameter over stock, 60 series would give you rub problems most likely. 205/55/15 will feel just about the same as 60 *almost un-noticeable dffrence* but you will also notice a big diffrence in grip.

they would like nice though, they actualy only get 2mm closer to the suspension and stick out 18mm farther then stock.

Ok guys, I noticed on the Guide that for 18x 8.5 no comments were made. If i get that size of wheels with out lowering the box, will I still need spacers or any sort or mod or will i be cool throwing those on the xb stock?

Thank you in advance!

Hello first time poster and i will make this short and sweet.

I was recommended to come here by someone on scikotics.com because they said this place had the best info for tire size/rimm matching.

I have absolutely fell in love with the Motegi DP1 and already am looking at a set to buy.

According to your wheel guide though the offset is way off.

18X8 with a 28 offset and 225-35- 18 tires is only offset i see and while i realize that is not a complete list the Motegi are quite a bit off

18X8 with a 40 offset 4X100 ET40

I have spent a couple days trying to find that wheel in any other offset but for that size it only comes in that one.

What does the offset actually take into account? I didn't see that explained in the FAQ post at the top of this thread.
Will those wheels fit my xB, and how much modification will i have to do? I really have my heart set on those wheels and I would like 18's. The site im looking at already has a direct fit for 17's but i really wanted them in 18's. If its not just going tobe possible without doing heavy modification then I will settle for the 17's. Also they make them in 20's but i am going to guess that would have major modification needed for it.

If it is possible to get the 18's how low of a tire and high of a tire would i be able to go with them?
for instance 205/35/18 i was thinking for the front and possibly a 205/45 or 50/18 for the rear to give it some stance? Does that make sense?

Any info would be helpful thankyou.

Work Euroline DH
Tein Basic Coilovers lowered max plus rear spring lock and perches removed.
Front 18x8.5 offset +25 215/35/18
Rear 18x8.5 offset +20 215/35/18
Front no rubs at all.
Rear over bumps with only driver in car. Even worse with passengers or weight in trunk. Rolled fenders so hard it bulges out. Now only rub with weight in trunk or passengers.

im gettin sportmax 002's 15" with falken 205/55R15 tires,would those be low pros or nice and thick?? someone help! thanks

hey all. i need some advice i am looking to buy some 18x7.5 rims for my Xb 2005... i have no idea what is the best option for me to go with! advice PLEASE!!!

im looking at 16x8 sportmax wheels with a 15 offset and was wondering if the will stick out or not. im currently running tein ss coilovers set aslow as they go and am worried about rubbing also. im rolling 17x7 right now 40 offset no rub at all.

wheels are these

http://www.edgeracing.com/2005/Scion/xB/wheel/5159

great thread

on my XA for those XA owners out there if you really want to do a tire change from 185/60/15 and stay with the same radius you can go 195/55/15 or 195/50/15 with the second dimension you will be sitting a full inche lower so if your in a city like me with a lot of speed bumps take that into consideration along with how fed up your streets are

hi, just wondering what the biggest rim looks good on XB?

Regarding the xA tire recomendation above, I also had to stay with 15 inch rims due to the wonderful roads here in the Detroit area.

However, I went with 205/55's. They are closer to the stock outside diameter size at only +2% larger than stock. I can't notice a difference with gearing, speedometer, etc.

The 195/55's that were suggested are 4% smaller than stock outside diameter, & the 195/50's are even worse at 12% smaller than stock diameter.

if i have 205/40/17's on the front, can i put 215/45/17's on the back...

Is there a problem with two different size tires.

I need to replace two of my tires.....long story...lets try something different.

Is anyone running 185/65/15 tires on 15" wheels with 42mm offset on their xB? Any fitment or rubbing issues?

I am running some staggerd 18" wheels
18x8.5,18x9.5 with a +35 front and rear

Real quick question for the people who know tires.

I have 18" wheels 7.5" wide 40 offset
"Suggested" tire sizes that I have read are 215/35 18

In the first post of this thread, there's a guy who had 215/35 18.... but his offset was 42 and he had rubbing at full lock

Will I be rubbing??? :question:

Thanks in advance.

if i have 205/40/17's on the front, can i put 215/45/17's on the back...

Is there a problem with two different size tires.

I need to replace two of my tires.....long story...lets try something different.
hey what part of NOVA you from I am from the woodbridge and fairfax area hit me up on my email

hey, this would have been nice to know before i screwed up the sensors in the rear wheelwell with some rims with the wrong offset :) owell, whats another $200

I'm considering ditching my 17x7s with 215/40/17s. I was looking at a set of Drag Dr-26 in 15x7 +40... would a 205/50/15 be a good tire size?

I'd go with a 195. Also, if you're not lowered, a 50 series is going to look terrible, it will also throw off your speedometer.

I'm not lowered, but the reason I was thinking 50's was to get some more sidewall back... the 40's ride like ___, and since its my wifes car, (she's not as careful as she could be) she's curbed them up too... Im trying to prevent that, as well. I would like to lower the car later on, but for now, would you suggest 60's? I just didnt want the tires to look like balloons...

195/60 tires will be good on 15's thats what im running atm

60 series is the appropriate size for a 15.
Here's a 195/50/15 on stock suspension... I had to snap a pic of it since it looked so terrible at stock height.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/burstaneurysm/wheelgap-1.jpg

lol man, nice visual. Thanks alot, I'll go with 60's.

How much trouble would 245/40/18's be with coilovers? lol... I have a really cheap set of Falken Azenis I can get so wondering if anyones gone this wide on our cars

That's pretty wide... the sidewall is too big for an 18 though. I think you'd have a hard time fitting that.

Correction... 235/40/18's... still big I know, they are off of a subaru

Specification
STOCK: 185/60-14
18": 235/40-18

Sidewall
STOCK:4.4in
18": 3.7in

Radius
STOCK:11.4in
18": 12.7in

Diameter
STOCK:22.7in
18": 25.4in

Circumference
STOCK:71.4in
18": 79.8in

Difference
STOCK:0.0%
18": 11.7%

That' pretty effing big. Just do it right and get appropriately sized tires.

Tires for 18's cost a TON so im trying to see if these will fit as they are Falken Azenis with only about 1k miles on them for dirt cheap (talking less than 200 for 4) from a friend of mine who has too many tires in his garage

Okay, then do it, but be prepared for it to not fit. How big is the wheel?

40 series on a 18" wheel is pretty big i'd go smaller
I'm running a 40 series on my 17" wheels

Well I measured the tires without the wheel on them and its going to come close... I think its possible... but REALLY close... thank god for coilovers so I can adjust accordingly lol

How wide is the wheel?

8" wide wheel... im sure ill have to roll the fenders already..

Wheels are 18x8 +32

To Jizzy Pickle I am on 1955515s on front and 1856015 stock size on back it does look a little weird but to get the better trac i do that anywho i did run 19555 on all and it was fine it didnt through my speed meter of to much 1-3mphs but it did hurt fuel econ but if you dont care than go for it it lowered mine by a little 1/3in but if you go down to 195/50/15 will lower by full 1 inch

Sooo who is Oper8r because his screenname doesn't exist...I want to see the pics/stance for his/her

17x8.5 . . . . . . . 16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . . Front doesn't rub: Oper8r
17x9.0 . . . . . . . 17 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 215/40-17 . . . . Rear rollled fenders: Oper8r

9 is sweeeeeet wide lol

ok looking for a new set of wheels/tires right now...

i'm checking out a 15x8 or 15x9 +36 offset. will the 15x9's rub at all with a completely stock setup ? and what tire size would people recommend ?

17x8.5 with 25mm offset, will it rub?

you should be fine, in the rear, front might rub a lil (if i did my math correctly)

17x8.5 0 offset wit 10mm spacer in the rear, will i need flairs in the back?

yeah you will

swweeet thanks much

If your tires dont rub that means you did not go big enough. The occasional rub is no big deal.

would 205/50/17 fit for an '04 xA?

205/45/17 will be better

I too am interested in the 205/50 -17 set up. I have 215/45-17 now, and i'm looking for a bit smoother ride, and also a bit taller gearing for the highway. Anyone ever run these? I also have bent a lot of rims on my previous car with /45 series tires, and /50 series tires seems to be the safe bet.

I am also assuming that taller profile tires will give better MPG. (so too will the taller gearing)

If they fit in the wheel wells, what are down sides of taller tires than stock?
- Speedo is off ( I can deal with that)
- Brakes aren't as strong (they are strong enough)
- Won't accelerate as quickly (Yeah, a concession I'll live with)

On the positive side:
- Smoother ride
- Better MPG
- Fills in the wheel wells better.
- Taller gearing not so buzzy on the freeway.
- Won't bend rims so easily.

Comments?
Phil 04 xA

is a 215/45/17 gonna have any issues (i.e. rubbing/clearance) in a 2004 xA with stock suspension? how about with it lowered? (1.3 inches)

No problems as long as the offset isn't too low.

Hey all,

I have been offered Volk GT-A rims that are 17x7 with a +44 offset. I am getting 205/45R17 tires. I am also planning to drop my box on S-techs. I would like to know if anyone has a similar set up and will it rub or fit nicely?

That's gonna be pretty sunk. You're gonna want some spacers in back.

i currently have 215/45/17 (17x7) on my xa with stock suspension. i have absolutely no rubbing issues. idk what it will be like lowered however, sorry.

i currently have 215/45/17 (17x7) on my xa with stock suspension. i have absolutely no rubbing issues. idk what it will be like lowered however, sorry.

Cool,

That sounds like what I will be doing instead. What is your wheel offset? I'm just worried about the +44 on the Volks it might be a little tight. Looking at the first post of this thread it ranges between something like +30 - 40 tops. This is an offer I can't refuse esp. since these wheels are worth like $1500 :)

That's gonna be pretty sunk. You're gonna want some spacers in back.

Yeah thats what I was told and someone recommended 5 mm spacers. I might not drop it at all depending on how it fills the wheel well. I see too many xb1's with rims that are too far from the body and it looks weird without a 1.5 - 2 inch drop.

im running wider tires than you will be and i have maybe 1/8 inch of space between the tire and suspension in the rear. As for the front, when turning the wheel completely to each side i have maybe 1/8 inch as well. Theres no need for spacers with a 17x7. As for the offset, I believe mine is either +42 or +44 I can't remember.

im running wider tires than you will be and i have maybe 1/8 inch of space between the tire and suspension in the rear. As for the front, when turning the wheel completely to each side i have maybe 1/8 inch as well. Theres no need for spacers with a 17x7. As for the offset, I believe mine is either +42 or +44 I can't remember.

What kind of wheels do you have? I can look up the offset. The thing is I'm probably going to lower my car, so spacers may be needed. I know another guy that has 17x7's and running 215/45 17's with TRD springs with 5mm spacers in the back.

I have Konig Unknowns. I hope spacers arent needed cuz i just ordered some TRD lowering springs, we'll see haha.

I have Konig Unknowns. I hope spacers arent needed cuz i just ordered some TRD lowering springs, we'll see haha.

I just looked up the Unknowns on the Konig catalog, they have a +40 mm offset and that is true for a lot of their 17x7 wheels. Congrats on your TRD springs purchase. I ordered a TRD set myself last night instead of the Tein S-Techs. Since my wheels have a +44 offset what difference does 4 mm make Plus the 0.7" difference in diameter between a 205/45 17 tire and 205/40 17 tire? Will it rub with the TRD drop?

Your unknowns should fit no problem with plenty of clearance with the TRD springs from what I understand. Just worried about my set up.

You won't rub with any drop on those.
I'm running 17x7 et40 with 20mm spacers in back and I'm on DF210s, no problems whatsoever.
A 5mm spacer is barely going to be noticeable.

Also, I run the TRD drop in the winter, it's not much of a drop at all.

i don't know about anyone else, but i have had big issues with that stupid protrusion on the rear subframe rubbing any high offset wheel i've put on there without a spacer.

17x7 +43 will hit that stupid thing w/o a spacer. i think the minimum offset required will be around +38/+39. maybe someone else can speak on this for me. i haven't read this whole thread.

Yea, with a wheel of that high of an offset, there's the possiblity that you'll rub on the inside. I can't speak of personal experience, 40 was the lowest offset I've run and I've pretty much always had at least 10mm spacers in back.

Yea, with a wheel of that high of an offset, there's the possiblity that you'll rub on the inside. I can't speak of personal experience, 40 was the lowest offset I've run and I've pretty much always had at least 10mm spacers in back.

What kind of spacers do you use or recommend? I am looking at the Ichiba off of ebay for $129. Preferably a spacer that will not require me to chop off my oem studs (25 mm spacers maybe?). I also hear rear hub spacers works well.

What kind of spacers do you use or recommend? I am looking at the Ichiba off of ebay for $129. Preferably a spacer that will not require me to chop off my oem studs (25 mm spacers maybe?). I also hear rear hub spacers works well.

i think 95% of scion xb1/xa owners go to hub spacers before they go to wheel spacers. its much better on your car, and no stress to hub and bearings, compared to wheel spacers which create unnecessary torque on those parts. i myself have a 20 mm rear hub spacers i got from bbszero, who sells em from his own manufacturer.

Definitely do hub spacers.

This thread dominates every other vehicle forum I have ever been on! Thanks for doing it right!

good information...

I am kind of confused with offset matters.

Will a 18x8 with a +42 offset fit without spacers or rubbing issues?

The wheel is a Rev 288 and tires are 225/40/18

I installed 15x6.5 +38 offset rota grids on my xA. The fronts needed 5mm spacers. I'm not sure if they're wheel or hub spacers, but i'm assuming it's wheel. The shop I had it installed at just said spacers so yea.

I got this rim's about 2 years ago for an Honda Accord. I put them on it, and hated the way they looked. So since then, I had been trying to sell them for about the 2 years. Well, I just bought my first Scion. An 2005 xA. I posted a question on this site to see if my old rims and wheels would fit but no one replied. So, Yesterday I took them down and slapped them on. and I have to say, they look wonderful. Way better then they did on the 2002 Honda Accord I had. I have no rubbing issues. Sometime down the line I will look at putting some lowing springs on, but for now I am just going to enjoy the ride as it is. I am also tinting the windows soon. Let me know What you guys think.

Loving the site.

hey everyone i just got some enkei bobt 18's Part number 00041-79018 the 18inch rim option on the customization from what i heard. their nice rims i got them on the bargain. now im worried about the hub centric rings i know these rims were designed for scion xa/xb but im wondering if i need the rings cause they didnt come with the rims.

Anyone on here running 17x9 all around?

15x8 what would be the lowest offset before I would start rubbing

Im droped 2" and have a 10mm spacer in the rear

Thanks much

^^^ huh? it doesn't make sense to me. offset is not the reason why tires rub inside or against the fender. With 15's, you should have no rubbing issues even with a 2 inch drop. I'm saying this in xA perspective, not sure about the xB. If your 2inch drops makes it so your fingers don't even fit in between the fender and tire, then yea you will need a high offset.

I have a xA.
I bought a set of tanabe's 2" lowering springs.
I was looking to put on 215/45/17
I currently have 205/40/17 with TRD springs. I don't know my rim offset.
I don't like the wheel gap. So I figured to put the tanabes and then bigger tires and fill the wheel gap up.
With the taller tires it should help keep me off the ground a little more so I won't scrape to often.
I have 3/4 hub spacers in the rear. I also have a 10mm or bigger wheel spacer in the front. I also have a 5 mm spacer If I need to use it.
I already rolled my fenders with total success.
So my question is Can I fit a set of 215/45/17 in with a 2" drop?
I don't think this has been done very often by reading through every page on this forum.

lol i'm pretty sure it can be done. i'm thinking about going 215/50/17 with 2 in drop. i haven't measured from the floor to fender yet, but you should after you put on the springs OR subtract 2 inches after adding the trd drop plus the current length. 215/45/17 has a diameter of 24.6 inches. 215/50 is 25.5 inches. that is what you got to work with.

I've got 215/45/17 on TRD lowering springs. No wheel spacers or rolled fenders and I never get rubbing issues. Granted it's not as big a drop as 2 inches but with all the extra stuff you have a few extra mm shouldn't harm you

Thanks guys for your reply.
I'm going to put them on. I just have to burn through the tread life that's left on the tires that I have.
What I really want with this new drop and wheel fitment is; CAMBER.:biggrin:
There's a scion camber society out there and the look is awesome.
The problem is there hard to find. It takes skill to make them right.
The legit makers are few.
Anyone out there looking to part with some legit camber with toe?:pray:

^^^ huh? it doesn't make sense to me. offset is not the reason why tires rub inside or against the fender. With 15's, you should have no rubbing issues even with a 2 inch drop. I'm saying this in xA perspective, not sure about the xB. If your 2inch drops makes it so your fingers don't even fit in between the fender and tire, then yea you will need a high offset. Oh yes it is, the smaller the offset or EG will move the lip closer to the fender lip of the car. A wheel that is 17 X 8.5 with a 35 offset will have the lip sitting closer to the fender wall then the same size wheel with say a 40mm offset. width of the wheel also plays into it was well. Thats why alot of time you see stretched tires and on wheels with very low offsets and running negitive Camber because they would not be able to run a larger width tire and even still you may run into rubbing!



now I was wondering. An sorry to say I doubt that anyone that is still on here would know, but as far as running say -3 camber what would be the top 4 best brand/model tires to use?

I was looking at buying some -3 camber. Just kind find someone at the moment that makes legit camber shims. I must have patience.
In my research I found
"Nitto - Neo Gen"　tires. They are designed to run on lower vehicles with negative camber.
A place that I found them cheap was TireBuyer.com.
There prices are really good and they have free shipping.

I was looking at buying some -3 camber. Just kind find someone at the moment that makes legit camber shims. I must have patience.
In my research I found
"Nitto - Neo Gen"　tires. They are designed to run on lower vehicles with negative camber.
A place that I found them cheap was TireBuyer.com.
There prices are really good and they have free shipping.



if your running a gen1 xb or xa look into http://www.realcamber.com/ best camber shims out there now and there is no tow in or out they sit flush

BTW thanks for the heads up on thw tires

I have 215/35/18 on my xa. I want 15"- 16" though. What would be a good xxr wheel with a nice offset and tire?

umm are you on coilovers? i wouldn't make the switch unless you plan on dropping the height. the old school xxr 002 or 501 looks good. i'd go 16s, 15s are too small.

umm are you on coilovers? i wouldn't make the switch unless you plan on dropping the height. the old school xxr 002 or 501 looks good. i'd go 16s, 15s are too small.

You lost me on coilovers.. I'm not car savvy by no means. I found xxr 522 15x7 with 4x100 pattern for $69 ea. They did look tiny though and thats what I'm afraid of. I guess I could lower it though.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

compare your wheels such as from your 18s to I prefer 16s or 15s. What I really look for is the diameter. I do not like the huge gap from the fender to the tires and want to close it as much as possible. You measure the distance from the floor to the middle of the fender and that's how much "diameter" you have to work with. If you plan on lowering it, the take away how ever much the drop the springs will get you.

Ohhhhh ok. I'll do that. Thx!

will 17x9 35mm offset with 225/45/17 fit on the xA? I read that it will not fit the front, but will fit the rear with spacers though. Can someone confirm it?