View Full Version : Want to get a lil more power without F/I
Kris5597 06-23-2008, 02:50 AM http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/kris5597/tcheaderandaeroresonator015.jpg
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alright guys im running a MMW header and s pipe, factory midpipe with an aero25 welded in between 2nd cat and oem resonator and a TRD axel back. i have a Weapon R SW intake with the ram air kit ran to the driver side vent which has been drilled out for better air flow. i have a 170 degree gates thermostat compared to the factory 180 degree one with redline water wetter added to the radiator. going to flush it and run 30% antifreeze with 70% water, NEVER FREEZES HERE, and run Royal Purple Purple Ice in instead of the water wetter for better coolant, i have TRD springs, rear sway bar and DC sports strut tower bar, TWM steel shifter cable bushings and a short shift, polished SS air diversion panel and a 1.3kg radiator cap, i run 100% full synthetic Amsoil high performance oil and Amsoil 100% synthetic Severe gear Transmission fluid. what else could i possibly do to make my N/a Tc faster cause i wont be going turbo for a while. want to do as much to an N/a as i can. DONT WANT NITROUS.
Lightweigt puleys. Etd for better launch.
Kris5597 06-23-2008, 03:46 AM woops forgot to post that. already have Ingalls ETD and A-power lightweight pulley. knew i was forgetting something.
Ok how about unichip or something like this?
FLINTstone 06-23-2008, 04:18 AM port and polish.
CarbonXe 06-23-2008, 04:21 AM The more N/A you do, the more you're going to have to take apart and sell if you decide to turbo. N/A is pointless unless you're willing to go huge. And you're not.
Kris5597 06-23-2008, 04:44 AM well maybe i should have made it a lil more clear. n/a tc is what i have to stick to i have a 100,000 mile extended warranty. im not going into the engine for no reason unless i really have too. im not trying to build a race car either just a faster DD. when i do go F/I it will be stock motor with TT turbo kit running 250whp no more than that. dont want to put a lot of stress on the engine or clutch. the question i guess i should have put up is what else can i do to my Tc as in bolt ons or something of that sort without going into the engine and not going F/I in any kind of way. until i can go F/I. and its fine im willing to spend what i have to spend for N/a bolt on and then buy a turbo kit. money is not a problem. already got this far on N/a with everything i got. turbo will come later when i put more miles on my car.
unxpectederror 06-23-2008, 08:11 AM sorry to tell you this but your warranty is already toast
B_Real45 06-23-2008, 01:48 PM Forget about your warranty.
Here are some things that you CAN do and will still benefit you in the future when you go turbo.
1.) Ditch the stock rims and get some ultra light-weight wheels and tires.
2.) AEM EMS or any other compatible standalone (Hydra)
3.) Port / polish your heads - good time to get better retainers, springs, and valves. (This along with #2 standalone - you can raise your rev limiter and tune for better gains with the new head)
4.) Crower makes a set of cams for N/A (so I heard) - but from the looks of the specs it would be almost just as good as their turbo sticks when you do go turbo. (Of course tune with EMS for maximum gains)
5.) Ditch the axle back (makes hardly any power) and get a true S-pipe-back 2.5" exhaust.
6.) Upgrade your clutch and get a light-weight flywheel.
Any of these things will help you now and in the future. They're not in any specific order. I would probably start with the lightweight wheels and a better exhaust.
Kris5597 06-23-2008, 03:04 PM yea i dont have the stockies anymore. and a true s pipe back 2.5" exhaust really didnt do anything but make it raspy and smell horrible. i didnt notice any power gain, just a loss in low end power. not really wanting to go into the motor and change anything of that sort. and as for the warranty if anything goes wrong with my car now i can easily just take it off and put it back to stock. dont have all the money together for turbo so thats out of the question right now. and turbo would take a lil while to take off. dealerships around here are more leanient for bolt ons such as I/H/E than a turbo kit. idk im prob just gonna start parting out the header and s pipe and intake so i can just get a good head start on turbo. order a skunk2 catback and run with that so i will have it when i go turbo. seems like the only solution for my case is turbo.
CSOCSO 06-23-2008, 03:10 PM the real problem is u wont get any big hp increase without FI.....
if you wanna stay n/a without loosing the warranty on the engine the only thing what you could do is full exhaust, header and intake. thats it.
no you wont loose the warranty if you have only these bolt-ons.. of course if you have any problems related to your mods then you will have no warranty on that part. but thats a different story.
so.. if you want more power you should get a decent exhaust system.
aftermarket s pipe, mid pipe and axle back
or just the s pipe and cat back
you can get the crank pulley too but that could do more poop to your car than the intake, header, exhaust system together....
btw if you dont want to loose your warranty why dont you go s/c?
B_Real45 06-23-2008, 03:37 PM The problem with going with any aftermarket exhaust right now is they're all 2.25" piping. That's not going to help you when you go turbo. (Obviously not including PTuning's 3" and Dezod's 2.5")
If you want to start saving up for a turbo, and still want to be semi quick - keep the header on for now and start a savings program for the turbo. The extra $200 for the header wont do you any good until you're just about ready to buy a turbo kit.
Why don't you make the car lighter? You said you have aftermarket wheels - are they lightweight or are they heavy like most aftermarket wheels?
Get carbon fiber body parts to lower the weight on the car.
get LSD from dealer. You can't go wrong with it. Just prepare your car to be turbocharged in the future is best you can do for now. Make it lighter, work on suspension, traction, grip and brakes.
Kris5597 06-23-2008, 08:13 PM alright thanks guys thats what the plan is. ima run a tanabe concept g axel back with a tsudo 2.5" midpipe. the kit i want comes with a 2.5" s pipe already ( turbo toyota kit) its what i want. i have pulley and ETD which is going to stay on the car. not sure really what to look for when looking for aftermarket lightweight rims. i want to get CF hood as well. but not till after i turbo. and as for the s/c IMO its crap. from what i hear about it its just not worth the money. no power gains. id rather spend the 3500 on a s/c on a turbo kit. something worth spending my money on. but thats what ill do. prepare for turbo keep it like it is till i get the money together and then sell what i dont need keep what i do any do it big with a turbo kit. thanks guys appreciate the info. anymore pls feel free to speak.
jblaze4lif 06-24-2008, 02:49 AM I say get fidanza lightweight flywheel and stage 1 or 2 clutch
hold off on the exhaust leave it as it is, when you go turbo in the future then dish out the cash for a 3" ptuning exhaust...
unxpectederror 06-24-2008, 03:31 AM is it even safe to run a lightweight flywheel with a lightweight/ underdrive pulley?
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