i just got my car aligned and was wondering is this the new best thing? or was the guy just all talk? it was only 60 bucks.

It's legit! We have one at our dealership! Btw, $60 is a good price... :clap:

Pretty common from what I know of. Lots of alignment tools use lasers, so I am not sure what that shop has. And honestly, a good experienced guy can align it just as well with the proper non-electronic tools. But the newer tools allow some of the "tools" at not so great shops do a good job :D $60 is a decent price in most places. I pay $45 for a 4 wheel alignment to OEM specs and $60 - $100 for a non-oem alignment like I run on the tC for handling purposes. That is very cheap for this area (a lot of people pay upwards of $100 just for a standard OEM spec alignment), but it is a one man shop... also knows a lot more about what he is doing as well.

Pretty common from what I know of. Lots of alignment tools use lasers, so I am not sure what that shop has. And honestly, a good experienced guy can align it just as well with the proper non-electronic tools. But the newer tools allow some of the "tools" at not so great shops do a good job :D $60 is a decent price in most places. I pay $45 for a 4 wheel alignment to OEM specs and $60 - $100 for a non-oem alignment like I run on the tC for handling purposes. That is very cheap for this area (a lot of people pay upwards of $100 just for a standard OEM spec alignment), but it is a one man shop... also knows a lot more about what he is doing as well.

they showed me the machince that the car gets on. he said it cost him 60k and it was the latest thing.

it looked exactly like this,
http://www.ttshop.co.uk/images/workshop/alignment_bg.jpg

lol if the car flys off.

just a regular alignment should be fine. its not like your going 150mph+

lol if the car flys off.

just a regular alignment should be fine. its not like your going 150mph+


what does that have to do with anything? i want the best for my car thanks though. and if the car is in park its not gonna fly off.

i have a similar machine at my school it works great, and the car wont "fly off" there are support bars at both sides that keep it in place,
and tcCAlI the car isnt in park, its in neutral, to do an alignment you need to be able to move the wheels.

^ gotcha.

Pretty common from what I know of. Lots of alignment tools use lasers, so I am not sure what that shop has. And honestly, a good experienced guy can align it just as well with the proper non-electronic tools. But the newer tools allow some of the "tools" at not so great shops do a good job :D $60 is a decent price in most places. I pay $45 for a 4 wheel alignment to OEM specs and $60 - $100 for a non-oem alignment like I run on the tC for handling purposes. That is very cheap for this area (a lot of people pay upwards of $100 just for a standard OEM spec alignment), but it is a one man shop... also knows a lot more about what he is doing as well.

they showed me the machince that the car gets on. he said it cost him 60k and it was the latest thing.

it looked exactly like this,
http://www.ttshop.co.uk/images/workshop/alignment_bg.jpg

that picture is of a hunter engineering alignment machine. The dead giveaway is the sunflower looking targets. It's an infrared beam that flashes and lights up the reflectors "the sunflower targets", then digital cameras measure the delay in light and calculates the readings. http://www.hunter.com/pub/product/alignmentsystems/index.htm is where you can see their machines

Hunter is one of the best out there. $60k? Yeah that's about right, depends on the options he selected.

wow $60? i dealership i work at charges $115 per/hr. alignments pay 1.5 hrs

laser alignments are the shiznit, anyone who's used a compensating head machine knows it's so much easier, that scizzor style jack looks like it sits lower than the regular style lifts, I had to put 2 2X4s under the ramps on our alignment rack at work just to get my car on, Laser Alignments pwn

my guy uses a hunter machine (MUCH , MUCH less than 60k by the way) and does anything from the daily driver to porsches that are used for track use only.

Again, the tool they use is just that, a tool. The allignment comes down to the guy doing the job and how much he knows. I know guys that can use 50 year old equipment and I would bet one of my paychecks it will be just as precise as the newest tools out there. As long as the car comes out in the spec they say, the allignment is good, regardless of the tool they use.

The car itself has more error in adjustment than the tool does.

my guy uses a hunter machine (MUCH , MUCH less than 60k by the way) and does anything from the daily driver to porsches that are used for track use only.

Again, the tool they use is just that, a tool. The allignment comes down to the guy doing the job and how much he knows. I know guys that can use 50 year old equipment and I would bet one of my paychecks it will be just as precise as the newest tools out there. As long as the car comes out in the spec they say, the allignment is good, regardless of the tool they use.

The car itself has more error in adjustment than the tool does.

he probably uses the machine that my shop uses thats well old haha.

but that new Hunter machine is bad asss it is so accurate, you would be surprised that if you do an alignment on the older machine then bring it to the new Hunter machine that it might be off! i cant wait to start working for Toyota next year cus they have the new one :P

plus its easier to work with.

wow $60? i dealership i work at charges $115 per/hr. alignments pay 1.5 hrs

+tax, so i think it came out to like somethin.

It works just fine for the fully race prepped porches he aligns :) Again, a good alignment guy can do the same job with it as a newer one and it will perform the same (Even if the new machine is a tenth of a degree more accurate :P ) on the track. The newer machines make it easier to do the alignment. They are nice, but not a reason to go to one shop over another. I would trust him with a bubble camber tool and string levels over a guy straight out of school with a $60,000 machine.

Not saying you dont have experience dave... just an example :)

i agree completely dave, im not too keen on alignments and ill be the first to admit it. but theres a lot of other stuff im more confident in.

for people who have race alligned their tc.. what exactly were the specs and what were ur mods that u were working with?

tccali where did u get ur laser alignment at? n did u ask for oem setting or non-oem? how is the feeling?

I have had my car aligned with a laser equipment before and it turned out just fine. I payed a little extra to have the touchless alignment performed. Can anyone vouch for a fact that the clamps that attach to the wheel don't scratch/ding up wheels? I wasn't sure so I payed the extra bit of money....

tccali where did u get ur laser alignment at? n did u ask for oem setting or non-oem? how is the feeling?

this shop in orange(the city).. yeah i asked them to knock it back into oem specs. well that was almost a year ago and everything is still going great! i will be going back in a few weeks after i get my tokico's installed.

Where is this shop you speak off... I never got an alignment after my drop.. getting new tires soon so a alignment is a must. :P

I need one also. Put my springs on a few months ago been putting it off ever since.

mmm if u can give us a location address name etc will be good

haha i don't know the name i just know where it's at. let me see if i can find the receipt, if not i will make a trip up there for you guys.

Where is this shop you speak off... I never got an alignment after my drop.. getting new tires soon so a alignment is a must. :Px2, do they other installs or is it just an alignment shop? Need my sways installed then an alignment of course...

Where is this shop you speak off... I never got an alignment after my drop.. getting new tires soon so a alignment is a must. :Px2, do they other installs or is it just an alignment shop? Need my sways installed then an alignment of course...
You dont need an alignment after installing sways.....Btw thats the same Hunter Machine I use at my shop....very great machine

Where is this shop you speak off... I never got an alignment after my drop.. getting new tires soon so a alignment is a must. :Px2, do they other installs or is it just an alignment shop? Need my sways installed then an alignment of course...
no, i believe they only do alignments.

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After changing/adjusting suspension components it is always best to do an alignment. Having to drop the front subframe to get the bar in, it's a good investment, especially after the new shoes I got today.