Well if you consider Santa the UPS truck like i do. He brought me a gift. Recently i ordered an APR Flex Conrol Bar from George at Scionsport.com.
George was an awesome guy to deal with, and sent me my product in a timely fashion and it looks great.
Review time: The bar adds a M4D TyTe JdM BlInG Yo of like 10, but the bar just isn't about bling! I haven't even got my Teins put on yet, but the stiffness of the front is deffinately felt now. The install was a _____ though, whoever designed the strut area for Scion needs to be shot, it is too small, and you have to pull up on the piece of metal there to be able to remove and install the bolts there.
Anyways without further ado, the pics.......i'm sure that is what you came to see anyways:
Santa Visits me
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjgxMDgyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
BLING yo
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjgxMDg0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
JDM YO
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjgxMDg1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
Bling Bling, that mark was easily removed with a soft cloth, the bar is Aluminum remember
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjgxMDg2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
Whoever made this design to Scion needs to be shot (not enough room)
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjgxMDg4NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
Yes it was raining while i installed this :wink:
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjgxMDg5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
That is all.
DJ_X_Trodinaire
12-09-2004, 05:57 PM
looks great!
kshymkiw
12-09-2004, 06:20 PM
Thanks, minus the hour to instal it is an awesome piece. Recomend it to anyone!
theappe
12-09-2004, 06:54 PM
how much did u get it for man?
TJandBOXCARWILLIE
12-09-2004, 07:00 PM
Nice.
lonewolfxb
12-09-2004, 07:06 PM
there are no threads coming thru the nuts on the studs anymore,keep a tight watch on them,the bar looks sweet other that that.
kshymkiw
12-09-2004, 07:41 PM
how much did u get it for man?
110 shipped
Scionsport.com has them in stock
kshymkiw
12-09-2004, 07:42 PM
there are no threads coming thru the nuts on the studs anymore,keep a tight watch on them,the bar looks sweet other that that.
Yes ther is, if there wasn't it wouldn't stay in place......you think i just put those on there for kicks? They are threaded and torqued down, hard
You can't really tell how thick the bar is. I wil take a comparison shot later
hotbox05
12-09-2004, 08:32 PM
hmm i have the cheapy scionfx one lol
Reno
12-09-2004, 08:59 PM
looks good. i know what you mean about the install. They guy should be shot multiple times.....
kshymkiw
12-09-2004, 10:37 PM
looks good. i know what you mean about the install. They guy should be shot multiple times.....
That is what i was yelling while instaling this, it takes some push and some force to get in, but it looks baller, and it matches my front emblem.
Next install is OEM CF Wing
Old_Punk
12-10-2004, 12:08 AM
Nice looking piece.
Could do without the bB logo, though.
kshymkiw
12-10-2004, 01:16 AM
Nice looking piece.
Could do without the bB logo, though.
Why not bB logo? I think the bB logo looks nice on there. Deffinately gives it more flare
SuperCrunchyAction
12-10-2004, 05:56 PM
Nice looking piece.
Could do without the bB logo, though.
Why not bB logo? I think the bB logo looks nice on there. Deffinately gives it more flare
Maybe but it's not a bB.
kshymkiw
12-11-2004, 05:02 AM
So what if it isn't a bB? I think i smeel some haters in here
SuperCrunchyAction
12-11-2004, 07:55 AM
So what if it isn't a bB? I think i smeel some haters in here
Yah i'm hating, I own a xB so i'm hating on another xB. :roll: I could care less what you do but it's not a bB no matter how many bB emblems you put on it.
kshymkiw
12-11-2004, 08:39 AM
Did i say it was a bB......nope......i bought the bar for the quality nto for the bB emblem
Munch
12-11-2004, 11:24 AM
Did i say it was a bB......nope......i bought the bar for the quality nto for the bB emblem
That looks sweet, and you can't please everybody. It's your car ,screw what that other guy thinks :twisted:
SuperCrunchyAction
12-11-2004, 03:54 PM
Did i say it was a bB......nope......i bought the bar for the quality nto for the bB emblem
Nobody said it was a bB. All someone said was they didn't like the bB emblem, you got all ____y and it went from there. Get over yourself.
phinz
12-11-2004, 05:09 PM
Anybody else get tired of people saying "why are you 'hating'" when all you are doing is saying that you don't like something?
Hate is a *really* strong word, and I'm really tired of people turning the word into a daily catchphrase.
FWIW, I like the bar, bB logo or not.
George
12-11-2004, 05:52 PM
[quote="phinz"]Anybody else get tired of people saying "why are you 'hating'" when all you are doing is saying that you don't like something?
Hate is a *really* strong word, and I'm really tired of people turning the word into a daily catchphrase./quote]
The funny thing is that a few years ago, "hate" wasn't all that strong a word. It was stronger than "dislike" but not as strong as "despise". People hated brussel sprouts, but nobody tried to shoot them because of it! :).
Then along came the concept of a "hate crime", a crime that was somehow made worse by differences between the criminal and victim. At that point, the word "hate" took on a stronger meaning.
phinz
12-11-2004, 09:14 PM
Then along came the concept of a "hate crime", a crime that was somehow made worse by differences between the criminal and victim. At that point, the word "hate" took on a stronger meaning.
Actually, the word "hate" has had strong connotations for a long time. If anything, the phrase "hate crime" has watered down the original meaning of the word. Perhaps it's the way I was brought up, but I have always said "I dislike them" or "I can't stand them." Hate is a word that is relegated to the bin of infrequent use.
I've always made a point of saying there are very few people I *hate* but there are many I strongly dislike. I can truly say that I hate the use of the word hate, and its various conjugations, as a commonly used noun, verb and adjective.
Yeah. I'm pedantic. :wink:
kshymkiw
12-12-2004, 07:11 AM
Nice looking piece.
Could do without the bB logo, though.
Why not bB logo? I think the bB logo looks nice on there. Deffinately gives it more flare
Maybe but it's not a bB.
Nobody said it was a bB. All someone said was they didn't like the bB emblem, you got all ____y and it went from there. Get over yourself.
I think you said a few things trying to call it a bB
SuperCrunchyAction
12-12-2004, 03:53 PM
Nice looking piece.
Could do without the bB logo, though.
Why not bB logo? I think the bB logo looks nice on there. Deffinately gives it more flare
Maybe but it's not a bB.
Nobody said it was a bB. All someone said was they didn't like the bB emblem, you got all ____y and it went from there. Get over yourself.
I think you said a few things trying to call it a bB
:roll: :lol:
BoomBox757
12-12-2004, 04:49 PM
alright well for yalll dumbass people out there, the xB is almost identical to the 2nd gen bB, they are almost the same, except for some little crap
icemilkcoffee
12-12-2004, 05:32 PM
^^^ What he said. xB=kouki bB, with some minor difference (LHD v RHD, metric, etc).
Those people who insist the xB is not a bB, let me ask you this- is our car a Toyota? Yes or no?
Zombietime
12-13-2004, 08:29 AM
^^^ What he said. xB=kouki bB, with some minor difference (LHD v RHD, metric, etc).
Those people who insist the xB is not a bB, let me ask you this- is our car a Toyota? Yes or no?
Yes it's a Toyota. It's not a bB, it's a xB.
BoomBox757
12-13-2004, 06:47 PM
it is a xB and a bb.....a rose by any other name is still a rose
excel_xb
12-14-2004, 06:06 AM
So what if it isn't a bB? I think i smeel some haters in here
Yah i'm hating, I own a xB so i'm hating on another xB. :roll: I could care less what you do but it's not a bB no matter how many bB emblems you put on it.
the car is manufactured in japan need i say more?. AND YES it is a bB no matter how many xB emblems i slap on it :P .
btw nice looking strut bar. i like it better then my DC one.
SuperCrunchyAction
12-14-2004, 06:15 AM
Now we'll have camry owners saying they own a Lexus because they're both built by Toyota.
excel_xb
12-14-2004, 07:12 AM
Now we'll have camry owners saying they own a Lexus because they're both built by Toyota.
no they wont. , lexus ES's are not build in the same assembly line as the camry's even though they share the same chassis.
the xB is a frekin bB. They come from the same assembly line in Japan. Built exactly the same way except for some minor adjustments to US standards.
SuperCrunchyAction
12-14-2004, 08:10 AM
Now we'll have camry owners saying they own a Lexus because they're both built by Toyota.
no they wont. , lexus ES's are not build in the same assembly line as the camry's even though they share the same chassis.
the xB is a frekin bB. They come from the same assembly line in Japan. Built exactly the same way except for some minor adjustments to US standards.
Minor adjustments? Not a bB then. If it was a bB it would be called that but it isn't, it's called the xB.
phinz
12-14-2004, 11:35 AM
http://www.thekirkhams.com/avatars/popcorn.gif
BoomBox757
12-14-2004, 04:21 PM
it is, trust those who know more than you :lol: :lol: :lol:
mill0048
12-14-2004, 04:49 PM
I have to side with SuperCrunchyAction here. Doesn't matter what it was in Japan. We bought a vehicle that was branded as a Scion xB and are registered to a Scion forum. I find it silly that everyone is trying to convert theirs to bB's and conveniently forgetting the column mounted shifter, crap ___ seats and various other things found in the Japanese model. Slap a Type-R sticker on it as well... But that's my opinion.
I understand the point of all this is to cusomize and make the car unique and fit your style. That's cool, that's your style and apparently many others. Perhaps, some of us don't like that syle. And for the record, I've seen some really nice looking USDM bB's on this site. :D
I don't think an emblem on the strut bar was worth de-railing the thread though. It's a nice bar, great mod and great price! I love the look of it.
SuperCrunchyAction
12-14-2004, 05:21 PM
it is, trust those who know more than you :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't pretend to know everything but I do know the car I bought is branded the xB in America, not the bB. Are you a representitive of Toyota of America or do you just have thousands of posts on a (lol) internet forum. :lol:
lonewolfxb
12-15-2004, 12:33 AM
BoomBox,
Get Over It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Who Cares!!!!!!!
JDMbB
12-15-2004, 12:37 AM
hmm i have the cheapy scionfx one lol
same here. but hell, it works
underESTIMATED
12-15-2004, 09:36 PM
I thought kshymkiw just thought on other message boards.
Didn't know he thinks his logo = JDM superiority. :roll:
VanillaRice
12-15-2004, 10:04 PM
Dude, I do think the bar looks good but I could do withought the bB on it. I'm just glad to see that I'm not the only person on this site that hates when people re-badge their car as something it's not.