View Full Version : gaining height with 17s?


parkyboi
12-10-2004, 03:21 AM
hey guys, im probably gonna get new rims later in december, but i was wondering if anyone knew how much the xb would get raised if the wheel size went from stock(15 inch) to 17 inches. i wanted to get tein s-tech springs, but im not sure, cuz the streets where i live are horrible. thanks!

SWF_05_tC
12-10-2004, 04:45 AM
Depends on what tires you go with. 205/40/17 will be closest to stock, 215/40/17 will be a little higher and 215/45/17 will be almost an inch taller than stock, but with a 7" wide rim and a 40mm offset, you will not rub.

parkyboi
12-10-2004, 05:00 AM
koo...so if i was goin with the 215/45/17 and lowered my car with s-tech springs, i would lower it about .5-.7 inches?

SWF_05_tC
12-10-2004, 03:06 PM
It will still lower it however much the s-techs say, you will just have a taller tire, so there will be less fender gap and the actual "drop" will not look like the 1.5" or whatever they claim, but only due to the taller tire. Also, you really won't be able to tell without measuring. It will look lower, and the tires will come almost right to the fender with a tire that tall. Your speedometer will be 3.7% too slow at 60mph, so youll actually be doin like 63 mph when your speedo says 60. Other than that, go for it.

CBSIMONSEZ
12-10-2004, 08:03 PM
Your speedometer will be 3.7% too slow at 60mph, so youll actually be doin like 63 mph when your speedo says 60. Other than that, go for it.

I would like to know where the hell you guys are getting your information from.

Specification - Sidewall - Radius - Diameter - Circumference - Revs/Mile - Difference
195/60-15 - 4.6in - 12.1in - 24.2in - 76.1in - 833 - 0.0%
215/45-17 - 3.8in - 12.3in - 24.6in - 77.3in - 819 - 1.7%


This is off this site ....

http://www.saturnperformance.com/tech/tiresize/

Please do your home work before you post your results.

Sid_xBicious
12-10-2004, 10:03 PM
koo...so if i was goin with the 215/45/17 and lowered my car with s-tech springs, i would lower it about .5-.7 inches?
for your reference, this is 215/45/17, with 7" width ET 38 wheels, on Tien s-thech.
no rubbing problem. and go here: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
for calculator.
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TQACA*0VKTypbUUlZyLizw0*AwhXz53qnmHaw*RzXN3pgjAhdjWeAlHGpsKyoNseddCeRFQEZxgZ68tdMl0FSi6ETQ1CgxBuLZu61mwtq1ZAdfi9lkowxw/IMG_0087.JPG?dc=4675472754523287310
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Sid_xBicious
12-10-2004, 10:11 PM
Your speedometer will be 3.7% too slow at 60mph, so youll actually be doin like 63 mph when your speedo says 60. Other than that, go for it.

I would like to know where the hell you guys are getting your information from.

Specification - Sidewall - Radius - Diameter - Circumference - Revs/Mile - Difference
195/60-15 - 4.6in - 12.1in - 24.2in - 76.1in - 833 - 0.0%
215/45-17 - 3.8in - 12.3in - 24.6in - 77.3in - 819 - 1.7%


This is off this site ....

http://www.saturnperformance.com/tech/tiresize/

Please do your home work before you post your results.

my stock tires are 185/60/15
new tire 215/45/17
stock dia: 23.7
new dia: 24.6
3.7% difference
speedo 60mph
actual 62.2 mph

SWF_05_tC
12-11-2004, 01:26 AM
^^^^ that's what I'm sayin. Helps to have your values correct before doing the equation.

turtles808
12-11-2004, 06:04 PM
I found this site to be a little more helpful because it also calculates inboard and outboard increase in relation to offset.
So you get a better idea of overall fitmet before buying. No more guessing about what offset would best fit your ride.

:arrow: Calculator (http://gs.tolan-hoechst.com/tirecalc.htm)

CBSIMONSEZ
12-12-2004, 02:39 AM
I just wanted to post, that if you look under the first sticky here, it lists the stock size as 195/60R15. That was the size i was going off of. I wouldnt know the stock size since i only put 5 miles on them. If this is the size, then im right. If not, then im sorry for the above post, but 3.7 percent isnt that bad anyway.

parkyboi
12-12-2004, 06:28 AM
thanks for all ur posts, guys...im not really concerned with how off my speedometer is, though.

i just wanna double check this: so if i get 215/45/17 tires, and then lower it with, let's say, springs that lower an inch, i would eliminate the gap but the height of the car itself would be close to stock?

CBSIMONSEZ
12-12-2004, 01:30 PM
Not exactly. Check out my sig pics. In there you can see the before and after with springs installed. I installed the Tein H Techs, but have a 215/45R17. When i park next to a fellow RS1 owner ( Jennay ) her Scion sits higher then mine. By about an inch.

This is why i say that the 215/45 cant be much more off then stock. I have very little wheel well gap, and yet i sit lower then stock. Hope this helps, and you can hit my PM if you need any other info.

parkyboi
12-13-2004, 03:59 AM
aiite, thanks a lot man...just wanted to clear that up.

bB2NER
12-15-2004, 09:55 AM
If your springs lower it 1.5" and your tires are 1" taller than stock it works out like this... you gain 1/2" from the tire height but lose 1.5" from the springs so it will only drop the ride height 1" from the original stock height by the time you are done.