View Full Version : One side lower than other


ChelsDS
07-26-2008, 02:28 AM
My mom just told me that she noticed the space between my rear drivers tire and fender was much smaller than the passenger side. So much smaller that our fingers can't go between the tire and fender straight! The passenger side we can stick the finger in no problem. You can see the problem on level ground better than my driveway.

Could my driver side spring be bad? I don't hear rubbing or popping or anything unusual back there while I drive. Whatcha guys think it could be?

cobaltbravo
07-26-2008, 02:52 AM
i imagine you havnt had the springs long enough for them to "wear out", although theres a chance the springs are saging due to material failure or something of that nature. did you get under and inspect them? if they werent installed properly, i could see the spring leaving the upper or lower mount plate over a sudden dip in the road or a pot hole maybe. grap the stands and take a look, and i wouldnt drive it till you find the problem. :no:

ChelsDS
07-26-2008, 02:53 AM
I was the R&D vehicle for Tanabe, so they've been on since... September of last year? Don't remember :) They installed them and I've only just noticed this too. :?

pickledchang
07-27-2008, 02:49 AM
wow, i have this same issue, the passenger side is not as low as the drivers side in the rear.... im pretty sure the springs arent designated for left and right were they? lol.

ChelsDS
07-27-2008, 04:20 AM
I doubt it lol. It would be silly if the Tanabe guys installed my springs the wrong way.

It is less noticeable on a level surface, but even more pronounced in my driveway. I hope this doesn't mean I need to get new springs or something. :(

pickledchang
07-28-2008, 05:22 AM
hmm, if we are both lower on the same side, maybe it has something more to do with the car itself. its possible the stock springs were designated a left and right, and tanabe has made a generic spring for both side. it would have to be researched further. its just odd now that two of us with NFs are dipping on the same side.

kris68
07-28-2008, 05:25 PM
Maybe it just has to do with the weight balance of the car. Or having the fuel tank to the driver’s side could have more weight to that side of the car. My car still has the stock spring on so I can take a look and see if it has a difference.

pickledchang
07-28-2008, 06:14 PM
maybe... but the car seems to be lower on the rear left no matter how the gas level is. even if i stand on the right rear door sill, it sits higher than the left. im pretty sure it did not sit like that with the stock springs.

ChelsDS
07-29-2008, 03:04 AM
Well that makes me feel better. Means I'm not that fat :rofl:

It has to be something with Tanabe's springs. I have my stock springs still and I might be able to figure this out given time and extra help. lol.

tmrepp
07-29-2008, 08:03 AM
Have fun, stock springs = spring compressor if you're putting them back on. I was happy I didn't have to use a spring compressor for the rear two springs, not the same strut setup back there as in the front. On the tC, you have to use a compressor all around, it SUCKS.

ChelsDS
07-29-2008, 08:17 AM
I wasn't going to switch them. Was thinking more along the lines of seeing if there were marks saying L or R for which side. Should prolly contact Tanabe about this.

tmrepp
07-29-2008, 08:25 AM
I don't remember any marking on the stocks, but also didn't study them. TRDs didn't have anything special on them either, as far as I noticed. Good luck!

pickledchang
07-29-2008, 03:24 PM
well, if i get the time, i will try switching the rear springs from side to side, or maybe putting the stock rears back on and see how it sits. somethings definitely not right now that i really look at it.

SeattleGuy
07-29-2008, 10:28 PM
I've noticed the same. Will be doing some other shop stuff on the car in a week or two. Will take a closer look then and let you know. Perhaps someone with stock and/or trd springs could look and see if there's any side-side difference in the rear?

cobaltbravo
07-30-2008, 03:45 PM
as far as i saw, theres no left or right, just front and back on springs. the only thing on the rears that was specific was which end was facing up ( obviously) ans that the toe on the lower end of the spring was installed at the 3 oclock position.

pickledchang
07-30-2008, 07:27 PM
maybe all three of us just happened to put the same spring in upside down or something on the same side? i dunno, sounds a little more than coincidence. ill have to double check mine again, but im pretty sure they are in right.

ChelsDS
08-01-2008, 03:15 AM
Do you think Tanabe screwed up putting their own springs on my car? Possibly. cuball in another thread has NF210s as well so in a few months maybe he'll notice. If he does have this then its gotta be the springs.

SeattleGuy
08-01-2008, 05:31 AM
I've done the spring install twice on the same car. Once when swapping out the stocks and again to install performance struts. It's not possible to misinstall the springs upside down and "clocking" the spring bases is simple. Only one pocket at three oclock as said earlier. So I'm reasonably sure installation is not an issue for any of us. After a little observation: When parked on a completely level and flat surface (surprisingly hard to find), side-side differences are much diminished and parking on some slopes actually reverses the effect. There appears to be some real difference but it is actually fairly small because the car is so sensitive to its attitude at rest. I suspect this sensitivity is due to the "coil-binding" tanabe topology. Still haven't got the car into the garage yet to look into it further. Will let you know.

pickledchang
08-01-2008, 06:43 PM
if it is an issue with the springs, than have all of us just happened to put the same "bad" spring on the same side? i think youre right seattleguy in the fact that it might have something more to do with the car and its sensetivity to slopes maybe. ill have to start paying even closer attention, but its definitely more sensitive to squatting on the drivers side.

BigDaddy101
08-03-2008, 03:48 AM
If it is any consolation, I had the NF 210's installed about a month ago and no issues with gap differences yet. I will keep an eye on it and let everyone know if I encounter the same issues.

pickledchang
08-03-2008, 08:16 PM
could you check and see where your rear springs are clocked to? so there is an exact equal amount of gap between rear left and right with yours? im not talking close, but i mean exactly even.

kcxd
08-04-2008, 02:06 AM
What do you mean clocked to? i am having my installed as soon as my 09 comes in this week. i want to avoid any future problems and get it done right the first time.

matt
08-04-2008, 02:17 AM
yeah i had the exact same problem with my tc when i got my springs put on... turns out the car was not on level ground so one side sits lower than the other. took it to a parking lot, boom. level.

pickledchang
08-04-2008, 03:12 AM
by clocked to, i mean which way are they oriented... like which way the end of the spring is facing. if you are having them installed, check and make sure the car is sitting level before you drive off.

XD_2_NV
08-05-2008, 07:41 AM
I know that with Sprint Springs I never had this problem and havent heard of any problems from anyone else, I think you should all ditch those NF's of yours and and go SPS! lol but seriously though there is no right or left side springs for the xD and it should still sit pretty level even on slightly unlevel ground! Go Sprint and I will see what I can do on price !!

pickledchang
08-05-2008, 02:34 PM
how much lower are the sprints than the DFs? ride nice and stiff?

XD_2_NV
08-05-2008, 07:45 PM
The Sprints are a full 2" drop and they are 25% stiffer than stock, so it still is a very nice ride, not bumpy or anything like that, if you decide to go Sprint I am sure that I can get you a good price on them...PM me if you want a number to get a price!

pickledchang
08-05-2008, 08:55 PM
are the sprints progressive or linear? how are your shocks holding up or do you have aftermarkets?

XD_2_NV
08-05-2008, 11:00 PM
are the sprints progressive or linear? how are your shocks holding up or do you have aftermarkets?

Sprint Springs are linear springs progressively wound, just like everybody else 95% of the applications in the industry are progressive wound but are linear weight! I hope that this helps, If anyone need clearification on what the difference is just hit me up, I didnt know untill recenty and it was surprising to me and I actually found out that even nascar and indy race cars use linear weight springs!!!

My shocks are holding up just fine, the springs are designed to use the stock shocks and struts on all applications!

kcxd
08-05-2008, 11:06 PM
The person who is installing my tanabe springs said he rides tanabe gf's on his nsx and never had a problem. Hope the same goes for the xd.

ChelsDS
08-06-2008, 12:01 AM
This isn't creating a problem. There is no problem. The issue is that on a slope you notice there is a smaller gap between the wheel+fender on the driver's side when comparing it to the passenger side. I have no issues from the smaller gap, it's basically a cosmetic issue.

The only way I'd get different springs if I can get them for half the price and find a recommended installer in my area :P

pickledchang
08-06-2008, 05:39 PM
to me, the car not sitting level on level ground is a problem. ive never had a problem on any cars ive had with aftermarket springs. and i dont just notice a smaller gap, i can see my car squatting to the left from behind as well.

XD_2_NV
08-06-2008, 08:41 PM
Like I said go Sprint Springs!

shangtsung
03-21-2009, 05:58 PM
I have the same issue with coilovers on my XA. I have reinstalled the springs half a dozen times, swapping and flipping them every which way. The only way I could finally get the car level was to raise the driver rear 3/4" higher than the passenger rear. I think it's a problem with the car and apparenty the XD has inherited it as well.

moaiD
03-22-2009, 12:17 PM
does this happen to stock too??? i go check my stock ist

DeathMachine
03-22-2009, 11:37 PM
thats where your gas tank is.... If you have a full tank its gonna sag a little more. Same as if you have a system, both of my subs sit on the driver side and that makes it sag a little lower, but not so much that it is really noticeable.

XLR8R
03-26-2009, 07:55 AM
i have the df's on mine and i have noticed just a slight lean that differs on the ground surface im on. its even there on flat ground. it doesnt bother me but my friend had the same problem on his colorado and it turns out that his problem wasn't how full the gas tank was it was just the location of the gas tank that gave it a slight lean. needles to say he decided we take his drop springs out and use an angle grinder to cut half a coil off of one of them to balance it out, and it worked. idk how safe that is but he hasn't had any problems yet. lol.

sv650m
04-28-2009, 01:26 PM
Its a month later than this thread, but I just wanted to point out that my rear drivers side is also a little lower than the passenger side with the DF210s.

scionstyle2009
04-28-2009, 02:05 PM
pics would be great, im thinking about getting df210's, but i wanna see this height difference

ChelsDS
04-29-2009, 01:33 AM
It's not that big of a deal, I didn't notice until my mom pointed it out to me. Now, I barely notice it at all.

shangtsung
12-12-2009, 04:07 AM
does this happen to stock too??? i go check my stock ist

What did you find?

YELOSUB
12-12-2009, 07:52 AM
It's not that big of a deal, I didn't notice until my mom pointed it out to me. Now, I barely notice it at all.

Yep, with my Tanabe DF210's, one side is lower than the other...Not much you can do about it...