Hello all! Brand new member.

My center rear seatbelt keeps falling out of the roof holder. Has anyone had this problem? Any ideas on how to fix? The plastic must have stretched. If it had some type of latch then this problem wouldn't happen. Thanks!

I had that problem, I then thought about it and realized that I never have three rear passengers so I pulled it all the way out and cut it, problem solved!

You cut it?? lol!

There is a thread here by zoltiz somewhere where he described how he removed the part in the ceiling and stuck it behind the pillar it comes out of.

I did the same thing that zoltiz did. I took a small screw driver and pried open the part on the ceiling that held the belt and used a 14mm socket to losen and finally remove the bolt. Then I pulled, be careful!, the pillar away from the body and tucked it inside. Also you have to pull the weather stripping away from the hatch opening to get a good grip on the pillar.

If you want pics I can quickly take some of what I'm talking about :)

You guys are all nuts, "CUT IT" your out of your mind. thats a 600.00 cut bro, nice....er...not...

I would just put a small dab of gorilla glue on it for now, that would keep it up and you could pop it out no prob if you needed it.

nutssssss. just nuts....

:loser: :rofl: :clap:

I looped the buckle back onto the belt and secured it with a small bungee cord. Any time I need the middle belt I just slide the bungee cord off to the side.

I thought about cutting it myself lol. I would have too if not for my girlfriend because im never going to have three people in the back of my car and if I did there not going to put on there seat belts. aside from kids who puts on seat belts in the back of the car anyway

Dont be scared just do it, cut it cut it if your going to go through all that trouble of taking the panel off chances are you are not going to ever put it back any way!
I cut mine and so far am not missing that 600.00 dollars.

Dont be scared just do it, cut it cut it if your going to go through all that trouble of taking the panel off chances are you are not going to ever put it back any way!
I cut mine and so far am not missing that 600.00 dollars.
p.s. am not too nuts!

I wouldn't cut that belt if I were you guys. If you go to sell the car down the road that will be a big deduction on the trade in value of the car since cutting the belt just reduced the car from a 5 seater to a 4 seater.

I'm with ChelsDS. Cutting it is just a bad idea.

STUPID! :no: just stupid

Cutting = bad news for resale...

I've been having the same problem! It stayed in the holster for 3000 miles and now it won't stay in for more than a day. I think I might use some rubber cement or jimmy up a latch. We'll see.

Runawayrogue: Do what I did and just use a 14mm ratchet to take out the bolt then pull back on the pillar and stuff it inside. No rattles whatsoever.

I didnt go into this thinking that I might sell my car, besides with all my other mods I would be losing money anyway, I guess it just depends on your plans in the long term for me it just made sence becuse thats just the tip of the iceburg for the stuff planed for my car. I dont think I am stupid or crazy, I bought my car as a investment, .....investment in having fun with it, I wish everybody could see it that way and have fun with there cars, besides isnt that why we are on here in the first place!

I agree with you on that, I have been thinking of removing it, not cutting, but because I am going to remove the back seats anyways so I dont need it and plus my rear is so low and no gap with my 19"s that when I have people in the back even my system it rubs on bumps! lol But if I wasnt going to ever resell it down the road when I get bored of it I would just cut it too! lol

I threaded a 1/4-20 tap into the plastic holder and screwed a 1/4-20 black plastic bolt into the hole. Locate the hole so the bolt enters the buckel of the strap. You can remove the screw with only finger torque and the strap never falls out. In addition, it looks like a factory install.

I think you guys are taking the turns too fast. I had this problem also but it only happened when I took a right turn at 40 MPH. If anything I would suggest LtNos's idea of glue temporarily.

Here's a link to the instructional post:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=192585

This will be my first mod =] Happening in a few minutes

I think you guys are taking the turns too fast. I had this problem also but it only happened when I took a right turn at 40 MPH. If anything I would suggest LtNos's idea of glue temporarily.

Mine fell out when I had my window down without turning. Sometimes it would fall out when I would go over a bump. Never came out on corners though.

To cut or not to cut, this is the question?
or if your dumb and crazy like me CUT!!!
live on the edage have some balls CUT!!!
or fall in in line sheeple and continue with your day
eather way your mama will still love you!

ChelsDS - I have 5 people in the car here and there, plus a carseat now and then, so I need to have it readily available. I think I will get some doublesided mounting tape and stick some of that in there to see how it works out.

ChelsDS - I have 5 people in the car here and there, plus a carseat now and then, so I need to have it readily available. I think I will get some doublesided mounting tape and stick some of that in there to see how it works out.

Double sided tape would remain sticky =P You're likely better off with Velcro. That way, you can reattach/remove it at anytime w/o needing more.

I don't think cutting out a factory seat belt means you are living on the edge or "have balls," dude. But whatever burns your toast. If it makes you feel cool and rebel-like, have a big time with it!

scifiscion... you have issues. :rofl: :rofl:

Run: Get rid of somebody to make it four! No, just kidding. I would go with what Jeff, xravexboix, suggested and use velcro. Probably put the velcro on the inside lip of the belt holder on the roof.

Hmm... is that what the little piece in the roof is for? I just stuffed the belt in the right side "c pillar". It's so snug it doesn't rattle. But it does have a slight bulge, LOL.

Your pillar has something for you Jeff :rofl:

Mine doesn't bulge at all. I think you did it wrong :P

Ahhh yes, velcro WOULD make more sense. Now I just have to not be lazy and do it.

lol... That takes about 2minutes to do it, but I know what you mean, its the lil things that you dont really want to do..LOL

I don't think cutting out a factory seat belt means you are living on the edge or "have balls," dude. But whatever burns your toast. If it makes you feel cool and rebel-like, have a big time with it!I think humor is lost on you!
oh well

Took down the center seat belt this weekend and i didnt cut it. Only one bolt is was easy thank guys

if so many people are having the same issue with their new car, couldn't you just file a complaint to scion corporation and see if a recall can be made for that part? it sucks to be the one to
make a complaint, but seriously, if you could get it fixed for free,
why wouldn't you?

I don't think cutting out a factory seat belt means you are living on the edge or "have balls," dude. But whatever burns your toast. If it makes you feel cool and rebel-like, have a big time with it!I think humor is lost on you!
oh well
Not really. It just wasn't even remotely funny. Bless your little hear t for trying so hard to be funny. Awww.

I don't think cutting out a factory seat belt means you are living on the edge or "have balls," dude. But whatever burns your toast. If it makes you feel cool and rebel-like, have a big time with it!I think humor is lost on you!
oh well
Not really. It just wasn't even remotely funny. Bless your little hear t for trying so hard to be funny. Awww.I'll try harder next time, I guess no comedy show for me stick to my day job!

Ha! Sounds like a plan.

if so many people are having the same issue with their new car, couldn't you just file a complaint to scion corporation and see if a recall can be made for that part? it sucks to be the one to
make a complaint, but seriously, if you could get it fixed for free,
why wouldn't you?

That makes sense actually. I would've already done it but I can't think of how to start it. :?

To be totally honest, do you think that Scion will recall all of the xDs for a little issue like "our seatbelt roof holder isnt working right, can you fix it?" lol... How silly does that sound? Maybe its just me, but its nothing that is unsafe and it cant harm anybody, most people probibly didnt even know that it disconnected untill they read it on this forum topic anyways! lol, It took me one and a half months to figure it out myself, but I dont think that they will recall this part, to much headache for such a little unsignificant piece.

whatever super pan! :P jk mario....no but seriously,
i guess i should have read a little more into this. i figured
if it did something like that, maybe there is a chance of
that seatbelt not grabbing when you're making a hard stop.
i forget what it's called, but you know how your seatbelts
lock up when your turning or stopping sometimes.

to me it would seem like it's a safety issue. toyota did a
recall recently on corolla's because of an automatic window
motor, why not for a seatbelt?

Well maybe not a recall but at least come up with a way to fix it for those xD owners not able to come up with a solution for themselves.

Did I mention I cut mine? jk lol

LOL.. Whatever... I also tryed to lock it them stick it into the plastic holder, but I still think that the velcrow idea is the best, NO cutting or redirecting, but velcrow or maybe a srew or tab to hold the seatbelt in when not in use, but to recall a seatbelt would be hard because it works fine in its regular function, its supposed to be connected to the seat, but we all dont like seeing that seatbelt! But IDK what Im talking about, so lets see what Scioon/ Toyota has to say about the matter... just give corporatea call, you know what I have Jack Hollis' number and email, lets go direct to the source, I will get back to you when or if he hits me back!!!

I just let it hang. It not bothering me to bad to cut or glue.

The seatbelt bugs me when I'm looking at my rear view mirror. I'm doing some sound deadening to my car, so it's totally apart now. I'm just not going to put the seatbelt back on when I put everything back together. I figure I can put it back in whenever I sell the car. However, I do think you have to remove the right rear seat to get the panel to pop off so you can remove the entire seatbelt.

Thanks everyone for all the information! I think I will thread a hole in the roof holder and install a plastic bolt. This seems like the most effective solution since I use the seatbelt periodically.



I threaded a 1/4-20 tap into the plastic holder and screwed a 1/4-20 black plastic bolt into the hole. Locate the hole so the bolt enters the buckel of the strap. You can remove the screw with only finger torque and the strap never falls out. In addition, it looks like a factory install.

Thanks everyone for all the information! I think I will thread a hole in the roof holder and install a plastic bolt. This seems like the most effective solution since I use the seatbelt periodically.

I threaded a 1/4-20 tap into the plastic holder and screwed a 1/4-20 black plastic bolt into the hole. Locate the hole so the bolt enters the buckel of the strap. You can remove the screw with only finger torque and the strap never falls out. In addition, it looks like a factory install.

I agree, that's the most sensible solution to me - a good mechanically-inclined fix for all us guys who spend a lot of time in a hardware store buying stuff to fix things right, haha!

I haven't had any issues with my belt falling out yet, I have just under 5000 miles on my 'D, but if it does start to come loose, I'll remember this fix.

Or you could just cut it!

lol...

Or you could just cut it!

Uh, no thanks... That's a solution for the typical mechanically-inept person who doesn't even know what a tap set looks like or how to use it... 1/4-20?? whut's that? Probably wouldn't know how to replace their own oil filter, either. Just cut that off, too. Oooo.... :loser: :rofl:

if you are going to cut the seatbelt, you might as well cut out the seat too! more storage room, less weight so you can go faster too! weeeeeeee!

if you are going to cut the seatbelt, you might as well cut out the seat too! more storage room, less weight so you can go faster too! weeeeeeee!

Yeah, what HE say! Hmmm...what else could he possibly cut?...

Hey -I got me a real sharp pair of scissors you can run with.... :lalala:

Or you could just cut it!

Uh, no thanks... That's a solution for the typical mechanically-inept person who doesn't even know what a tap set looks like or how to use it... 1/4-20?? whut's that? Probably wouldn't know how to replace their own oil filter, either. Just cut that off, too. Oooo.... :loser: :rofl:
Hahaaa. This is excellent!

Uh huh, and you wouldn't even want to think about what might happen if his girlfriend/wife would decide to just up and leave him - seein' as how he likes to cut off things he never plans on using anymore.... :nails:









OK, I'm done, I promise to behave now... :P

Haaa!

[quote="Cylon_xD"]Uh huh, and you wouldn't even want to think about what might happen if his girlfriend/wife would decide to just up and leave him - seein' as how he likes to cut off things he never plans on using anymore.... :nails:






You talk a lot of smack to some one you dont even know, how do you know how dumb I am tuff guy! it was all in fun you turd !

tuff guy or not, i thought it was pretty smooth, lol.

tuff guy or not, i thought it was pretty smooth, lol.
What so smooth about a guy talking stuff that dont even know me?

doesnt matter if he/we know you or not, the fact is you stated and defend that you hacked a seatbelt off because it was a nuisance, of which the majority of people here think is a lame idea. personally knowing one another has no effect on the smooth rating of a comment.

doesnt matter if he/we know you or not, the fact is you stated and defend that you hacked a seatbelt off because it was a nuisance, of which the majority of people here think is a lame idea. personally knowing one another has no effect on the smooth rating of a comment.Thats alright to think my ideas lame but doesnt give you the right to judge my intelect, becuse you and your boy friend think your way smarter!

Oh grow up and get back on topic. :roll:

Oh grow up and get back on topic. :roll:

Good idea, like I was saying just cut it !!!!!!
Yea be dumb and lazy like me and just cut it with no regard to your family or what other people think and no it doesnt make you tuff or a rebel or prove you have balls or anything of the sort, just do it becuse this is america and you can!

how can you say hes my boyfriend if you dont even know me?

another thing to try is to take out the plastic retainer in the ceiling, drill a small hole, and use one of humanities greatest invetions, a zip tie.

how can you say hes my boyfriend if you dont even know me?

another thing to try is to take out the plastic retainer in the ceiling, drill a small hole, and use one of humanities greatest invetions, a zip tie.Becuse you stump all over my feels like you were protecting your boy friend!

scifiscion, you are making things worse. Just shut it, please. Save yourself before it is too late. Actually, I think that time has already long passed. Hah.

scifiscion, you are making things worse. Just shut it, please. Save yourself before it is too late. Actually, I think that time has already long passed. Hah.
I never said anything bad about any body intill they started on me and I was passed it in till you opened your mouth I dont need you telling me to shut it becuse I was joking and not talking down to you or anyone else !
Really do people take cutting a f-ing seat belt that serious ?

anyone looking for info regarding the seatbelt falling out of the retainer, please refer to page 1.

Thats all I wanted, was to go on with the show.
thank you!

wow, I missed a lot here since I left work a few hours ago! Geez...

Scifi - Dude, I was only yankin' your chain, just being silly, adding some humor - Didn't mean for it to come across personal - don't take it so hard, sorry man...

You're right, this is america, you can do what you want, more power to you! But, free speech and all, we should be allowed to make fun too... and that's exactly what it was supposed to be, just fun...

Anyway, as I said in my last post, I'm done now, that was my last little nasty, so let's all shake hands, move on and talk about our Sci-lons and how great they are, instead! K?

:clap: :clap: :clap:

anyone looking for info regarding the seatbelt falling out of the retainer, please refer to page 1.

x2

Or click this link

Link (http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=192585)

Guys I wasnt trying to ____ anyone off, I was kidding around, and am sorry if I offended any one, I always like to keep things friendly!
peace

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