On my way to work, mindin my business and I see a cop in front of me, so I pull up right behind him, thinkin that i have no problem. A couple seconds later I change lanes to my left & the cop pulls in behind me. So i'm thinkin whatever he must be goin left too, hopin he didn't see that my front plate was missing.

Any how he pulls me over and cites me for not signaling on my lane change, Blue lights in my headlights, no front plate & an incorrectaddress on my D. license! What a f@$#%^&* dick wad! Couldn't he find somethin better to do w/ his time?

Any how, does anyone know anything about fighting this b.s.

thanx :?: :?: :?:

Couldn't he find somethin better to do w/ his time?

You mean like doing his job?? There are reasons for the laws you got ticketed for. Make your car legal and the cops won't hassle you.

get ahold of scioncop :lol: . He's around here somewhere, and if you change your attitude, maybe he can help, or at least enlighten you.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but his "better thing to do" is his job, which is to in part, cite people for violations. Regardless, hope you can fight the citations and at least get some of them dropped.

Couldn't he find somethin better to do w/ his time?

You mean like doing his job?? There are reasons for the laws you got ticketed for. Make your car legal and the cops won't hassle you.
It sucks but I agree with florencescion :(

I can understand your feelings if the cop just pulled you over for failing to signal( that's awfully light), but he cited you for three other issues.

i would have to agree that the cop was just being dick. come on now, tickets for blue headlights, not signaling a lane change, wrong address, and no front plate? that is just stupid. did the cop signal over when he moved behind you? you can fight it, as far as the plate goes, just put it on when you go to court. change out your headlights back to stock. i don't know what to say about your addy, i have an old addy on my id too. the signal thing, i don't know about either.

but seriously, those are stupid reasons for tickets.

I don't like cops either, except for brad. but I think it might have something to do with the " I pulled up right behind him sounds like tailgating to me, which isn't smart to do to a cop

You guys are absolutely right about makin the car "legal" If I was rollin bone stock then noone would mess w/ me, but what fun is that? Everyon and their mother has blue lights in the car, and I can understand the deal w/ the front plate, to be honest all the fix it cites don't bother me. I f he had cited me for those only I wouldn have fixed em and not cared.
But the lane change???? I was stopped behind him when I changed lanes, how does he know if I signaled to my left or not? It was totally out of his line of vision. I think he was being ticky tack...

i hate people that dont use there blinkers

you shoulda signaled, then he's have not noticed anything else AND you'd be less of a danger to yourself and others :)
So, let us know how much it'll cost you. :)

i hate people that dont use there blinkers

Yeah, turn signals are put on the car for a reason. Otherwise, we wouldn't have them.

they are not really stupid reasons for tickets...the turn signal is for everyones safety so that they can see where you are going, blue lights are for emergency vehicles such as ambulances, your address is on your license for a reason...how are they going to send you your court summons if you dont live there anymore?...the front plate could have been a warning but im sure that will get dropped if you put it on before you go to court...i think that it is treated the same as failure to provide documentation (insurance, registration, etc.)
if you wanna hear about some stupid tickets i got stories
pulled over and $45 ticket because my license plate frame covered up too much of "New Jersey" even though you could still read what it said
also got pulled over for red cobra eyes on my hood twice in a week 3 weeks after i had 300 multicolor christmas lights wrapped around my jeep and nobody said anything to me

your tickets are legit...stop whinin and just drive legal...not that hard...if your gonna break the law be ready to pay the consequenses

Ok, I don't even know where to start, but here it goes.

First any vehicle driven on a public road can be subjected to a stop for safety reasons and can be inspected at such time.

Once you move residences, you MUST advise DMV within 7 days of your address change. Fill out the card and polace it behind your license, easy fix.

The no front plate issue is no biggie, it can be signed off.

The blue bulbs are a no go also.

You might have to go to Traffic School for the Failure to Signal within 50 feet, as it is a Moving Violation. That is, if you haven't been to TS in the last 18 months. Do it online, it only takes a few hours instead of sitting around bored the whole day.

Oh yeah, in case you haven't noticed, I'm one of those Oakland "f@$#%^&* dick wads" that has nothing better to do than to jack people for no reason. :wink:

Wait one, I just helped you out! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

you can fight this by complying with the law he or she was just doing their job do those violations sound petty they shure do was the officer a dick? i dont know .did you have an attitude
with the officer ?. i dont know it sucks anyway sorry you got hasseled

Wow ... not a very forgiving crowd here!!!!! I'm not bashing cops, I even told the guy that I respect his position and what he does for the community and that he has a job to do, and that I had no problem w/ the fix it tix, but " isn't the signaling 100 feet before a lane change, when I 'm stopped & there is no traffic behind me a little ticky tac?" to which he replied "It's just Business. Anymore questions."

Any how, does anyone know anything about fighting this b.s.

Yep. Here's what ya do:
-Get your license corrected
-take the illegal stuff off your car
-get your front plate replaced
-start using your turn signal

If you do that stuff, I bet the next cop that gets around you in traffic won't mess with you at all. :wink:
I'm not trying to be a smartass, but the cop was only doing his job. Do you honestly feel that he should have just ignored you? Think about it; the first thing he probably noticed when you pulled up behind him was either your missing plate or the illegal blue lights. That alone would be enough for him to ticket you. But then, he see's you make a lane change without using a turn signal. So he pulls you over, and the icing on the cake is the incorrect info on the lincense. How is all of this his fault?

The police have a tough job to do guys, they deal with a lot of BS both on and off the job. Show a little respect.
Most cops I know, and I know a lot around where I live cause I shoot with them on a regular basis will generally turn a blind eye to minor issues like blue lights or other minor code infractions. But give them a reason to pull you over and well then they will nail you for them. You have no idea what kind of day the man just had and you climbing on his bumper might have been enough to look for a reason to pull you over.

Now of course there are rookies fresh out of the academy that are either on a power trip or have something to prove and will be jerks, but most cops are just doing their jobs and trying to make a difference in society.

My question would be how did you conduct yourself when he pulled you over. Did you cop attitude with him or did you show him the respect that an officer of the law deserves? You would be surprised that the man behind the badge is generally a pretty decent person, you show them respect you will generally get respect.

Funny how everyone hates a cop till they need one.

OK, U guys suck!!!!! :D :D Here I am lookin for a little moral support after I feel that I just got shafted and you all are tellin me that I'm the dumbass!!! :lol: Well ... pointakin I see what you guys are sayin and I appreciate y/re feed back. Thanx for all the tips and ........ I guess what I'm tryin' to say is that you guys are probably right.
Just needed to vent you know!

You would be surprised that the man behind the badge is generally a pretty decent person, you show them respect you will generally get respect.


just like brad

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time...

Just because the cop gave you a ticket for it doesn't mean your guilty of it. Go to court and tell your side. Better yet do it in writing first - Check out www.ticketassassin.com for more info on how to request a Trial by Written Declaration.

Well whether you deserved the tickets or not, "SOME" cops do enjoy the power trip of being a dick. And a really rude one can really ruin your day. (personal experience).

how much was all the fines?

Wow ... not a very forgiving crowd here!!!!! I'm not bashing cops, I even told the guy that I respect his position and what he does for the community and that he has a job to do, and that I had no problem w/ the fix it tix, but " isn't the signaling 100 feet before a lane change, when I 'm stopped & there is no traffic behind me a little ticky tac?" to which he replied "It's just Business. Anymore questions."

I guess you didn't read my post. I AM A POLICE OFFICER and have been since 1993. I just showed you what to do to help you out. Sheesh. As long as you are on a public road you have to follow all of the codes.

By the way he was a total rookie. He made me late for work cause he kept having to pull out his book to look up the citation numbers. My uncle is a det. for LAPD, so I know that there are good cops and bad cops, I respect the position and what it means to be an officer of the law, so i pay them their due respect. But just like good people and bad people there are awesome police officers and some pretty dirty ones. This guy was cool, he wasn't a jerk, just doin his job, but a complete rookie. took 25 minutes to write a ticket!

Ugh, I hate those "stealth" lane changers. I always imagine a landmine going off under their car and flipping it over every time they change lanes without their signal...
:twisted:

Skater
I think what you are seeing here is a little bit of a reverse vent. I am an avid motorcyclist, however I ride a sport bike and I get lumped into the sportbike crowd. You know the guys who like to do wheelies on the freeway, ride the shoulder etc etc. Because of that I get a lot of grief from the police because I am a sport biker. I think you will find that the Fast and Furious crowd has given a lot of honest car enthusiasts a bad name. All the attitude and the I get no respect and popo just out to get me tends to wear thin on a lot of us.

Bottom line is I think many of us agree that it sucks to have gotten pulled over and gotten the tix, I think you will find that the issues you cited just seemed like a little bit of poor old me, why is the man out to get me. I think the undelying message here was if you cant do the time dont do the crime and if you do get nailed for it then dont cry about it - suck it up and deal with it.

Might have gone over a little smoother if you started off well I really screwed myself today and then lamented about the problems. I think if you had sown ownership of creating the situation in the first place, you might have gotten a little more sympathy.

Just my 2 cents. Keep your head up though its not the end of the world just a few bucks out of your pocket :)

Peace

I does suck to get pulled over; we all have been their. As for the cop being a dick he may have been in his attitude and not for what you were bing cited for. You also have to remember that the police are really cracking down on the people that have given car modders a bad wrap... Street Racers, thank you the fast and the furious.

On another note I don't have a front plate either since the dealer never even drilled the holes in the front bumber of my box so I'm not running one. When I get popped its just a fix a ticket.

On my way to work, mindin my business and I see a cop in front of me, so I pull up right behind him, thinkin that i have no problem. A couple seconds later I change lanes to my left & the cop pulls in behind me. So i'm thinkin whatever he must be goin left too, hopin he didn't see that my front plate was missing.

Any how he pulls me over and cites me for not signaling on my lane change, Blue lights in my headlights, no front plate & an incorrectaddress on my D. license! What a f@$#%^&* dick wad! Couldn't he find somethin better to do w/ his time?

Any how, does anyone know anything about fighting this b.s.

thanx :?: :?: :?:

You should be hating yourself for pulling behind a cop KNOWING your front plate is missing...and then not even using your blinker when lane changing??? About time cops started giving tickets to people who don't signal. :D

You think these are cops being dicks? Ive got the two best cop stories and both happened within the past few weeks:

First I'm driving around town with my friend in his Mazdaspeed Protege. Now he doesn't have any real engine work done just electronics ( a turbo timer). So were drivin going about 7 over the speed limit and a cop pulls us over. He writes my friend a ticket for having an "improper exhaust." The exhaust was the stock exhaust for the car! I think it even says Mazdaspeed on the tip! How do you get a ticket for driving with stock parts?

So the week ends and me and another friend in his SRT-4 are driving back up to college. I-75 is really busy as its Thanksgiving weekend so we decide to take I-95 up to this old 2 lane hw that cuts across to St. Cloud/Orlando. The speed limit is 55 on the road. Now to set up the story, my friends tires are not all that great and I guess because of the high amount of torque he produces they don't often catch and squeel a little before he takes off. So we come out of gas station pull back onto highway and when were going straight again he puts it hard into 2nd, (the tires squeel a bit). Hits 3rd and when we hit 50 mph he slows down and levels off. A cops sirens go on and the cop pulls us over comes up to the car and asks if we know why he pulled us over. My friend says no I don't sir, I didn't speed, I accelerated a little quickly to get onto the HW and my tires squealed. The cop replies I know you didn't speed but your dam right your tires squealed. He goes back to his car and comes back with a ticket for 115 dollars for careless driving...... I didn't know it was a crime to accelerate quickly on a highway but apparently in central Florida it is! Woulda gotten off cheaper if we had been speeding!

Thanx alot for your suggestions Squirrel. I had no intention of offending anyone, just wanted to let out some steam, I had no idea that people were so conscious of signaling, good to know, now I will definitely be more conscious of it.

Ugh, I hate those "stealth" lane changers. I always imagine a landmine going off under their car and flipping it over every time they change lanes without their signal...
:twisted:

YES! :evil:

i think the cop could have been more leanient with you. the head light and missing front plate could have been a fix-it ticket. i'd like to make the point that you should have written your new address on the back of your lisense where it says "address change?"

go to court and see if the judge lowers your fines. plea guilty and he'll most likely cut your fine an half.

boxpilot is right on target. I think the way you worded your vent made it seem like you were not going to take any responsibility. It seems like cops are never liked until they help you out.

boxpilot is right on target. I think the way you worded your vent made it seem like you were not going to take any responsibility. It seems like cops are never liked until they help you out.

cops don't have to be liked, they just have to do their job.

Guilty or innocent.......ALWAYS fight a ticket and take it to court. You have a 50% chance of a win.

On my way to work, mindin my business and I see a cop in front of me, so I pull up right behind him, thinkin that i have no problem. A couple seconds later I change lanes to my left & the cop pulls in behind me. So i'm thinkin whatever he must be goin left too, hopin he didn't see that my front plate was missing.

Any how he pulls me over and cites me for not signaling on my lane change, Blue lights in my headlights, no front plate & an incorrectaddress on my D. license! What a f@$#%^&* dick wad! Couldn't he find somethin better to do w/ his time?

Any how, does anyone know anything about fighting this b.s.

thanx :?: :?: :?:

Cops are cool never had a problem with one, maybe you need to watch your driving, instead of the cop behind you.....

i'll tell u what if u didnt change lanes without signlaing (like an idiot) i'm pretty sure he wouldda left u the hell alone. see? one simple forgetful actions and it all goes downhill. at least only one of em is a moving violation.

i'll tell u what if u didnt change lanes without signlaing (like an idiot) i'm pretty sure he wouldda left u the hell alone. see? one simple forgetful actions and it all goes downhill. at least only one of em is a moving violation.

Good point.

i'll tell u what if u didnt change lanes without signlaing (like an idiot) i'm pretty sure he wouldda left u the hell alone. see? one simple forgetful actions and it all goes downhill. at least only one of em is a moving violation.

Good point.

*boom!*

Wow ... not a very forgiving crowd here!!!!! I'm not bashing cops, I even told the guy that I respect his position and what he does for the community and that he has a job to do, and that I had no problem w/ the fix it tix, but " isn't the signaling 100 feet before a lane change, when I 'm stopped & there is no traffic behind me a little ticky tac?" to which he replied "It's just Business. Anymore questions."

I guess you didn't read my post. I AM A POLICE OFFICER and have been since 1993. I just showed you what to do to help you out. Sheesh. As long as you are on a public road you have to follow all of the codes.

Follow the codes...yep....remember thinking that yesterday when i was passed by a state trooper doing 90 in a 70 with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. Or maybe the NUMEROUS times I see the "law" changing lanes without a signal or just sitting on the side of the road bull____ing.

But you know what, my point here isn't to bash law enforcement, because they are human, and EVERYONE will take advantage of privilages every now and then, and you are dishonest if you say differently.

It is true the original poster was responsible for his consequences by drawing attention to himself. However, all this talk about "codes and law" is just a crock. I dont use my turn signals either, and you know why, because when I am having to pass you boneheads on the RIGHT instead of the left, if I use my signal to get back over I get the door shut on me. I have already posted my feelings on another thread about jackass drivers so I digress.

The point is this, law enforcement is only useful for two things really.
1. To enforce basic laws that protect the innocent(which has nothing to do with blue lights)
2. To contribute a revenue stream for the institutuion of "law"

In closing I can only say that the reason law has become what it has is because of YOU. No one in this country gives a ____ about the country around them. No one votes, but more importantly the ones who do vote dont take the time to research their vote. People rely on the media to give them the info eventhough the media is controlled. Only in america can the people re-elect a president that cant properly pronounce the word nuclear.

Wow ... not a very forgiving crowd here!!!!! I'm not bashing cops, I even told the guy that I respect his position and what he does for the community and that he has a job to do, and that I had no problem w/ the fix it tix, but " isn't the signaling 100 feet before a lane change, when I 'm stopped & there is no traffic behind me a little ticky tac?" to which he replied "It's just Business. Anymore questions."

I guess you didn't read my post. I AM A POLICE OFFICER and have been since 1993. I just showed you what to do to help you out. Sheesh. As long as you are on a public road you have to follow all of the codes.

Follow the codes...yep....remember thinking that yesterday when i was passed by a state trooper doing 90 in a 70 with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. Or maybe the NUMEROUS times I see the "law" changing lanes without a signal or just sitting on the side of the road bull____ing.

But you know what, my point here isn't to bash law enforcement, because they are human, and EVERYONE will take advantage of privilages every now and then, and you are dishonest if you say differently.

It is true the original poster was responsible for his consequences by drawing attention to himself. However, all this talk about "codes and law" is just a crock. I dont use my turn signals either, and you know why, because when I am having to pass you boneheads on the RIGHT instead of the left, if I use my signal to get back over I get the door shut on me. I have already posted my feelings on another thread about jackass drivers so I digress.

The point is this, law enforcement is only useful for two things really.
1. To enforce basic laws that protect the innocent(which has nothing to do with blue lights)
2. To contribute a revenue stream for the institutuion of "law"

In closing I can only say that the reason law has become what it has is because of YOU. No one in this country gives a ____ about the country around them. No one votes, but more importantly the ones who do vote dont take the time to research their vote. People rely on the media to give them the info eventhough the media is controlled. Only in america can the people re-elect a president that cant properly pronounce the word nuclear.
wow you should seriously shut the hell up. damn bro you are off by all means. i'm sure that not too many people agree with you. yes alot of cops are nit picky but damn do u have a messed up spin on the world.

if you were a better driver on the road, and kept your car on the legal side of the law you would have been cut loose. (and if your uncle was / is a det. , you should have shown him the family card and you would have been cut loose)
blue lights are just asking for trouble (so are red)...

how did he see you behind him, ever hear of mirrors???

god, it does not take a rocket sceintist to see a cop and do the right thing...

I dont use my turn signals either, and you know why, because I am a dick, and because I was tailgating you and driving like an idiot, when I try to get back into the lane you slam the door.



There, I fixed it for ya! :evil:

you can also fight the tickets in CA by excersizing your right to TRIAL BY DECLARATION - you never appear in court and your defense is submitted in writing. The officer must also submit his version in writing (they often don't - but they DO show up in court when it's done in person - better chances in writing). Also, the CA court system is so backlogged (one of my parents is [currently] a very high profile judge in CA - although I'm asked not to say who at the moment) - and they've told me ALWAYS appear in writing - NOT IN PERSON if you want to beat the tickets. Oftentimes the tickets are tossed for no other reason than that they don't have the time to deal with your paperwork.

example - I got ticketed in So.San Francisco just past 3Com.... I was completely in the wrong (I found out later, the car's speedo read 10mph SLOW at 75... i WAS doing 85 in a 75.... moms didn't tell me before I took the car 500 miles to Reno ) - I beat every charge.

Growing up watching court and killing time in judge's chambers - gbeing found guilty has nothing to do with whether or not you did it, but rather who can argue better. The system is designed the way it is for a reason, if you know how to use it, you'll always be o.k..

hmmm how do you go about fighting it in a trial by declaration? not that i have any current tickets but that seems like the way in case i ever need to.

There should be instructions on the back of the ticket for Trial by Declaration. If not, call the court clerk. It is not uncommon to be told you can't do that - that's WRONG, it is your right to 'appear' in court that way, many municipalities will do what they can to dissuade you from it. DON'T. Also, if you want to work the system, call the court clerk a bit before your court date and request to change your docket and move it back as far as you can - usually 4-6 weeks. Then, in about 4 weeks, do it again. Put the trial off by about 2 - 3 months past the original appearance date. Then when you do send in the written statement (as close as you can to the end of your allowed submission date) the officer will have 30 days to respond in writing also. By then... the case is so old, it's anybody's game. Again, manipulate the system - and YES! IT IS FAIR! You are using the system in the exact manner it was designed. It's no different than what lawyers do. Only the stupid guilty. If everyone used the system to their full legal advantage, the courts would clog to a standstill and fall over dead (near exact qoute from one of those hated judges). Work it and walk.

hmmm how do you go about fighting it in a trial by declaration? not that i have any current tickets but that seems like the way in case i ever need to.

Check the link in my previous post - or just click here.

www.ticketassassin.com They'll explain the whole process and even have downloadable forms that the court doesn't even provide...

I fought a red light ticket in SF and won and at the same time, had a speeding ticket in Hayward. I was able to postpone the speeding ticket by the trial by declaration so it didn't affect my record when I was fighting the other one.

Couldn't he find somethin better to do w/ his time?

You mean like doing his job?? There are reasons for the laws you got ticketed for. Make your car legal and the cops won't hassle you.Yeah, it sucks to get tickets, but that is the way it goes...And I know a lot of cops, and they have a suck job to do sometimes.

If you keep your car legal, then no hassles. It's like when the pot head with the big pot sticker in his window gets pulled over and gets busted for weed. Why ask for trouble?

windowtint is correct with what he said....

it is a seldom used way of doing things, but it does work....

I drive a big rig where I work and all I have to say is USE YOUR GOD DAMN BLINKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And quit _____ing!!!!

Maybe you should have made your car compliant with your local laws. Ever think of that?

On my way to work, mindin my business and I see a cop in front of me, so I pull up right behind him, thinkin that i have no problem. A couple seconds later I change lanes to my left & the cop pulls in behind me. So i'm thinkin whatever he must be goin left too, hopin he didn't see that my front plate was missing.

Any how he pulls me over and cites me for not signaling on my lane change, Blue lights in my headlights, no front plate & an incorrectaddress on my D. license! What a f@$#%^&* dick wad! Couldn't he find somethin better to do w/ his time?


Y'know, the cop probably would have let any _one_ of the violations you mention slide. However, you presented him with a several blatant violations nice and close up, which made you an irresistable target.

Rule #1 for avoiding tickets is to be legal. This will almost always keep you out of trouble!

Rule #2 is to stay away from cops. Don't get "right behind" them or (especially) pass them if you can avoid it! Cops are human and don't particularly like being passed even if the pass is legal. Giving a cop time to look you and your ride over on three sides is like a deer taking a stroll through a hunter's crosshairs. If you had backed off and stayed behind the cop you would have made your turn and the cop would have gone right on up the street.

Live and learn...

George

Well here it goes...I'm a Police Officer in Ocean County and I own an XB...Bottom line is most of the things we do to our cars aren't approved. We all know this.

There are a couple things you need to know.
#1 You said you were on your way to work? What town was it? Cops are different in different towns. Some towns dont have as much work to do so they do these kind of stops. The cop was just doing his job.
#2 When a proactive cop sees an infraction he will pool you over. Most cops aren't looking for the tint, headlights, license plates, most are looking for other stuff. But bottom line is when you have a missing plate or run a stop sign or forget to signal this gives the cop probable cause to stop you and see who you are, where your coming from, and look for other bigger things.
#3 By giving you the ticket for failure to signal he just covered his butt with why he stopped you. It's called the probable cause. Now the other tickets just came with the territory. I wasn't there so I dont know your demenor towards the cop eithier maybe that came into play.

Bottom line is there really isn't a way to fight these tickets. Maybe if you call the officer and tell him that you returned your car to stock and you apologize is there anything he can do for you in court he'll tell you to go to court and drop some tickets but thats a stretch. Worth a try.

I'm not sticking up for the cop but as a cop sometimes when people drive careless and they dont have a front plate and they are driving behind you, or they are across the intersection from you and you want to stop them you have no way of getting their information cause they are missing that front plate. I dont like when I can't see a plate either. You want to know who you are pulling over before you do so .

If you live in a town that is strict with aftermarket parts on a car your better off not hooking up your car unless your willing to pay the fines.

If you have any question please feel free to IM me. I'll help if I can.

If you don't want to get pulled over you need to check on what is legal and what is not. If you don't check on it and do something about then don't complain when you get a ticket. You were in the wrong whether it was a minor infraction or not. You know you are supposed to use turn signals. You know you shouldn't have blue lights, they are ugly anyway. If you weren't aware that something you were doing was wrong then you still were in the wrong, ignorance of the law is not a free pass to break the law.