View Full Version : Cold Automatic Transmission/ Gas Filler Neck


UBYTRON
12-17-2004, 03:08 AM
Its been a little nippy for my taste down here in Florida for my tastes. I complain anything below 70 degrees. I hate the cold....

Anyway, I have noticed that my Xb automatic transmission tends to hang to the low gears when its cold. It stays in second gear at 40 mps until the blue light shuts off.

I usually take it nice and easy on my hampster on the wheel until its warmed up. Does this happen to you guys as well or is it something that I should go get checked out.

Also, I think I have to get the dealer to check the safety valve on the neck of my gas tank. I been to a few gas stations to fill up and have not been able to hold the lever down to have to pump fast. It keeps clicking off like when the tank is full. It has done this at 4 diffrent gas stations so I know its not the pump. Anyone has had this problem or the Xb is just sensitive to the speed of the fill?

Thanks Guys and Gals!

Scott17
12-17-2004, 03:21 AM
The transmission is working as designed. The fueling problem is covered by a TSB. see your dealer to have this performed.

tripertripp
12-17-2004, 03:23 AM
yes both happen to me as well i am in south texas its been getting into the 40's at night and when i go to school the next morning that happens to me and i think ive read somewhere on here that its just the engine warming up mine will eventually shift over though but best advice is to just let it warm up a little more before you start moving.
and the gas thing i dont know but it did that to me today when i went to fill up i had to keep pushing it down and thier was a post on here about that and i tried some of the things they suggested like not pushing the plastic thing all the way against the opening cause it builds up pressure well yeah that didnt work im going to the dealer on saturday to pick up my plates and to get my first fee oil change ill ask what to do then.
hope i helped a lil

Max2k
12-17-2004, 06:07 AM
It does the same thing in new england.

Dewmerz
12-17-2004, 06:18 AM
The transmission is working as designed. The fueling problem is covered by a TSB. see your dealer to have this performed.

Yes go have the TSB performed for the gas tank. I had mine replaced a few days ago under this.

mikochu
12-17-2004, 06:46 AM
The transmission is working as designed. The fueling problem is covered by a TSB. see your dealer to have this performed.

Yes go have the TSB performed for the gas tank. I had mine replaced a few days ago under this.
what was the turn-around time on the gas tank?

Dewmerz
12-17-2004, 06:53 AM
The service writer mentioned about 4 hours but there were 3 guys on it when I showed up since they forgot about it most of the day. Parts were ordered prior and were in within a few days. I can't find the TSB printout I have but I believe it replaced both the tank and the neck with updated parts as well as a few other misc items.

12-17-2004, 07:07 AM
make sure you don't get any crap about having an aftermarket exhaust either. Dewmers was talked to for having an aftermarket exhaust because the tech was tired. :roll:

Kong
12-17-2004, 01:26 PM
Your transmission is fine. When it's cold, it turns the overdrive off automatically. You can read more about this in your Scion manual. I don't have an answer to the second question though.

Old_Punk
12-17-2004, 05:58 PM
Another little cold weather idiosyncrasy I noticed yesterday. It had been sub-freezing over night and the shocks/struts (which are stock) were REALLY stiff until they warmed up a little. I've never noticed this with other cars.

rallyxb
12-17-2004, 06:25 PM
Also, I think I have to get the dealer to check the safety valve on the neck of my gas tank. I been to a few gas stations to fill up and have not been able to hold the lever down to have to pump fast. It keeps clicking off like when the tank is full. It has done this at 4 diffrent gas stations so I know its not the pump. Anyone has had this problem or the Xb is just sensitive to the speed of the fill?

Thanks Guys and Gals!

Happens on mine as well depending on which gas station you fill up at.

It is caused by:
* shape and pressure of the gas stations fill nozzle
* internal shape and pressure relief ability of the of the gas filler neck on the car

WORKAROUND:
The shut off is caused by too much back pressure, which shuts off the gas pump.
Just pull the gas nozzle out about an 1" to relieve the back pressure.

Craig_X1
12-19-2004, 08:33 PM
Any word on finding the TSB for us?

Thanks

Dewmerz
12-19-2004, 10:09 PM
I can't find the printout and Corollatoys does not have it online. Here is the information I got from another thread.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4203&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

TSB EG049-04 November 19, 2004
Fuel Nozzle Clicks Off Before Tank Is Full
Applicable Vehicles: 2004-2005 model year Scion xA and xB vehicles produced BEFORE the Production Change Effective VINs shown below.

Scion xA Takaoka Plant JTKKT6#4#50103217
Scion xB Takaoka Plant JTLKT3#4#50202999
Scion XB Central Plant JTLKT3#4#54007594

theappe
12-20-2004, 05:06 PM
I have the same problem with the gas tank. What I do is that I take the gas pump a little out so it can pump full blast.