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Hello everyone! I would like to introduce our company, N2MB Racing. We make electronics for performance cars. Our base is in the SRT-4 community and you can check us out over on SRTForums here: N2MB Racing - SRT Forums - SRT4, SRT6, SRT8, SRT10 & Dodge Forum (http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f245/)

We have decided to branch out into new vehicle communities and bring our popular WOT Box product to the Scion tC and other Scion cars.

http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/wotbox_600px.jpg

The WOT Box adds two major features to any car. They are No-lift shifting and 2-step launch control.

The No-Lift Shift feature makes no-lift shifting easy by cutting your engine's ignition for a very short period while you no-lift shift. No-lift shifting is keeping the gas down through the shifft. The ignition cut allows the synchros in your transmission to mesh easily, reducing the chance of missing a gear and damaging your transmission. Keeping your foot down through the shift also allows you to hold boost through the shift, thereby significantly improving your E.T.

The major benefits are:
-Lower ETs
-Reduced chance of missing a gear
-More consistent, effortless shifts
-Reduced wear on the transmission
-Reduced chance of major transmission damage

The 2-Step Launch Control modulates the ignition by dropping power to individual ignition coils to hold the RPM you want to launch at. The turbo will spool up while you do this. You can use this feature for a more consistent and more powerful launch in boost! If your car is naturally aspirated, it will still help you have more consistent launches.

You can read more about the WOT Box on our website at:
http://www.n2mb.com/wotbox

You can view Scion tC specific installation instructions here:
http://www.n2mb.com/sciontcinstallationinstructions

Thank you to NVMyTc for doing the test installation and the write-up.

As an introduction, we will be running a group buy for ScionLife Forum Members for the rest of October. You will receive a $10 discount and the privilege of being one of the first tC's with no-lift shifting and launch control. To check out at the group buy price, visit this website:
http://www.n2mb.com/wotboxgroupbuy

Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions.

Reviews:
THAT THING IS INSANE!!! he took me for a spin and wow!! i'm for sure gonna pick that up. stays in boost when you shift. its amazinghttp://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3745942#3745942

i cant wait :)

also would this be beneficial to the guys with s/c's because i know they build boost differently?

Its good for boost and even the All motor guys.

It will help you get your launch a little more consistant, but most of all it will cut down your time between shifting. You also stay in boost while shifting threw the gears :)

I use to think I could shift fast, but I cant even compare it to a WOT shift.

I have a good amount of people going to the track today with me, I should be able to get some good videoshttp://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3741724#3741724

So I went to the track today as soon as it opened and I was only able to get 5 runs in. Since it was my first time at the track with the WOT box I was adjusting it every race.

The track conditions were pretty bad and it was 97*, not the best weather for racing

I had the 2-step set at 2400 RPMS, which worked amazing on the streets but was much too low for the track.

First run was 9.596, 2-step set at 2400 RPMS, bogged on the launch bad, turbo took forever to spool
Second run was 9.272 (my 2nd fastest ever), 2-step set at 2800 RPMS, Tires spun a little but was a pretty mice launch
Third run was 9.318, 2-step set at 2800 RPMS, car hooked well w/o any tire spin but caused the engine to bog a bit
Fourth run was 9.289, 2 step set at 3000 RPMS, Car hooked pretty damn good, spun a bit but was a good run
Fifth run 9.436, 2-step set at 3200 RPMS, had pretty bad wheel hop and was slow into third gear

Right when the weather started to cool down, a guy got in a real bad crash and the races were stopped for 45 minutes while it was cleaned up, so I just watched he rest of the night. WHen I ran my personal best (9.250) I did it in 70* weather. I came damn close to breaking my personal best in 97* weather. I also didnt miss one shift tongiht, when usually i mis a shift about 2-3 runs on a track night.

My average time usually is around 9.5, so it was surprising to see how consistant I was running tonight. 3 of the 5 runs my 60' foot were 2.1XX

let me jut say, I LOVE MY WOT BOX lolhttp://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3742833#3742833

Wait till you hear the 2-step, my neighbor thought someone was shooting a gun and ran out of her house to see what was going on LOLhttp://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3744745#3744745

i can vouch for this product as being very effective and definetily a must upgrade for those of you who are avid track runners, it helps ease the shifting when your trying to make good times on the 1/4 plus saving the damage done to your transmission i would highly recommend it for the price,

p.s. the car i drove was not a tc but an 11.5 srt-4 that had the WOT box on it, and to the guys at n2mb you know the girl whos car i'm talking about

hmmm interesting.

i can vouch for this product as being very effective and definetily a must upgrade for those of you who are avid track runners, it helps ease the shifting when your trying to make good times on the 1/4 plus saving the damage done to your transmission i would highly recommend it for the price,

p.s. the car i drove was not a tc but an 11.5 srt-4 that had the WOT box on it, and to the guys at n2mb you know the girl whos car i'm talking about

Thanks for the endorsement! We have offered this product for the SRT-4 for over a year now and the results have been amazing. Most people are shaving big time off their cars and it is well known to be effective in that community. We have sold close to 1000 of them, mostly for the SRT-4. Since this summer we've been branching out to other cars and we've seen great results from them as well.

Will this work just as good for NA cars or is it specifically for F/I. Thanks. It sounds different thats for sure, it actually sounds like it would do more damage to your car, but then again im no tech. Keep us updated.

Will this work just as good for NA cars or is it specifically for F/I. Thanks. It sounds different thats for sure, it actually sounds like it would do more damage to your car, but then again im no tech. Keep us updated.

It will help with N/A cars. You will be able to shift faster and launch more consistently. However, you won't see as large of gains without a turbo. The turbocharged cars benefit the most because they are able to hold boost through the shift, instead of having to build it up all over again in the next gear.

When you need a test xB 1st gen let me know! Would be interested in the No-lift shift.

Got ya thanks man.

has this been tested on any TC already ?
how dificult or is it plug and play ?

When you need a test xB 1st gen let me know! Would be interested in the No-lift shift.

Email us at info@n2mb.com and we'll set you up with our test car program.

has this been tested on any TC already ?
how dificult or is it plug and play ?

Yes, it has been tested on NVMyTc's tC. Here are the installation instructions with detailed pictures from his car:
http://www.n2mb.com/sciontcinstallationinstructions

THAT THING IS INSANE!!! he took me for a spin and wow!! i'm for sure gonna pick that up. stays in boost when you shift. its amazing

a stupid question but is there something like this for auto transmission tCs??

thanks

a stupid question but is there something like this for auto transmission tCs??

thanks

Not a stupid question. We've thought about it, but we can't figure out how you would use it. You don't need the no-lift shift, since you already can do that. The launch control might help, but it isn't clear how you would get into gear to launch like you would do in a manual when you drop the clutch. Maybe in a full manual valve body auto? But, I think the best option for the autos would be a high stall torque converter and build boost using a brake boost.

When you need a test xB 1st gen let me know! Would be interested in the No-lift shift.

Email us at info@n2mb.com and we'll set you up with our test car program.

Email sent.

a stupid question but is there something like this for auto transmission tCs??

thanks

Not a stupid question. We've thought about it, but we can't figure out how you would use it. You don't need the no-lift shift, since you already can do that. The launch control might help, but it isn't clear how you would get into gear to launch like you would do in a manual when you drop the clutch. Maybe in a full manual valve body auto? But, I think the best option for the autos would be a high stall torque converter and build boost using a brake boost.

thank you sir

will this work for the xb2 i will be the tester this will be a life saver to get my big turbo spooling and sound mean as heck so any possability for the xb2?

will this work for the xb2 i will be the tester this will be a life saver to get my big turbo spooling and sound mean as heck so any possability for the xb2?

Send Jon@N2MB an email/PM and see if you can become a tester

I honestly dont see why it wont work your your Box

will this work for the xb2 i will be the tester this will be a life saver to get my big turbo spooling and sound mean as heck so any possability for the xb2?

Email jon@n2mb.com and I'll look over your schematics. Let me know what year xB 2 you have so I can pull up those wiring diagrams.

I am interested in getting test cars for all the Scions.

I'm not 100% familiar with how engines really work, but does something like cutting ignition harm the engine in any way?

If not, send me one asap!

Well, it is not the best thing for the engine. It is hard on a lot of parts and is not entirely without risk. That is why we recommend that you keep the duration of the 2-step as short as possible to make your launch and that you give it plenty of time to cool between runs.

Luckily on your car we were able to wire a fuel and ignition cut, so it will be a little bit less harsh on the catalytic converters, but it will still cause them to heat up. That is why you want to keep the 2-step duration short. Don't just sit on it for minutes at a time to make a lot of noise. Use it for a few seconds right before you launch.

It is similar to most other performance parts on the market. You are willing to accept some additional wear and tear in order to gain performance.

However, an interesting durability note. GM was confident enough in its reliability to include it in a warrantied car. I would say that speaks well of launch control and no-lift shifting. But, I cannot say there will be 0 added risk to your car, because then our company will be held liable.

So, a long winded answer to say, yes and no. :-)

Its a 2008 has the same motor as the tc let me know ill be a tester for sure

Its a 2008 has the same motor as the tc let me know ill be a tester for sure

Ok, sounds good. My wiring website doesn't have the greatest information for the 08. I will see what I can dig up. Can you take a look at your car to see if your wire colors match up to the pictures of the tC installation, since it is the same motor?

We'll give you the WOT Box for free if you do the test installation, take detailed pictures and send us some text explaining the pictures. Email us for all of the details.

I could also use an xA and xD test car. Email us if you are interested. Turbocharged cars are preferred.

even thought the engine is some what the same the computer on the 07-09 handles things slightly different went it comes to the rev limiter. how this will interfere with this unit and its installation idk

Its a 2008 has the same motor as the tc let me know ill be a tester for sure

Ok, sounds good. My wiring website doesn't have the greatest information for the 08. I will see what I can dig up. Can you take a look at your car to see if your wire colors match up to the pictures of the tC installation, since it is the same motor?

We'll give you the WOT Box for free if you do the test installation, take detailed pictures and send us some text explaining the pictures. Email us for all of the details.

I could also use an xA and xD test car. Email us if you are interested. Turbocharged cars are preferred.



yes i will look for the colors today and my ecu is in the engine bay is about all i see different from the pictures where is the way to wire the tc?

Instructions are here:

http://www.n2mb.com/sciontcinstallationinstructions

so this has been tested on a 2007 boosted tC correct?
if so can that person chime in and tell us how it is.
im more interested in the "no lift shift" rather than the launch control.

Ill take pics of every thing ill look for the wires so the clutch gas pedal 2 for the ignition power line from the fuse and one ground right? the two to the gas and clutch tap while the others intercept and one good metal ground whats the email for the pics to be sent to and to do the order through

so this has been tested on a 2007 boosted tC correct?
if so can that person chime in and tell us how it is.
im more interested in the "no lift shift" rather than the launch control.

Check the first post in this thread. I quoted their reviews.

Ill take pics of every thing ill look for the wires so the clutch gas pedal 2 for the ignition power line from the fuse and one ground right? the two to the gas and clutch tap while the others intercept and one good metal ground whats the email for the pics to be sent to and to do the order through

There are 6 total wires. See here:
http://www.npcompleteperformance.com-a.googlepages.com/wotbox_generic_diagram.jpg

The specific colors for the tC are mentioned in the tC instructions:
http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/sciontcinstallationinstructions

Our email is sales@n2mb.com

Thanks!

sent you a email with some pics let me know whats going on