View Full Version : Resonators, does size really matter? It does, get a long one


aryan13
10-18-2008, 09:40 PM
When it comes to resonators dealing with rasp, does size determine their effectiveness? Would a long resonator perform better that a short resonator? How about a short resonator that has a large diameter? Is it length or diameter that determines a resonator’s effectiveness?

STNC
10-18-2008, 09:47 PM
Size Matters!

Just ask bowflex

Ace83
10-18-2008, 09:53 PM
^^ lol but yeah and its more on the length, but there are good quality resonators that arent too big but does the job well

aryan13
10-18-2008, 10:06 PM
I've heard that Vibrant resonators are good. They are 14" in length and about 6" in diameter.

I could also go with a Magnaflow that is 22" in length and 4" in diameter.

Out of these two which would be more effective?

STNC
10-18-2008, 10:07 PM
aero?

aryan13
10-18-2008, 10:12 PM
The areo is only 10" in length and 4" in diameter. Had it welded it in and it didn't do much.

STNC
10-18-2008, 10:13 PM
i see, links to others for purchasing?

aryan13
10-18-2008, 10:17 PM
links for the Vibrant and Magnaflow?

Ace83
10-18-2008, 10:30 PM
i have aero and for a 10" resonator its great.. vibrant is a good brand but havent heard much of their resonator

STNC
10-18-2008, 10:33 PM
links for the Vibrant and Magnaflow?

Yes


And to all

Do they work on if its say 20" it cancels out the 65-70mph drone range, or if its 5" its the 10mph range? Is that how it works or am I crazy

aryan13
10-19-2008, 01:42 AM
Magnaflow
http://www.magnaflowexhausts.com/product.php?productid=6013&cat=19&page=11

Vibrant
http://stores.ebay.com/Verocious-Motorsports

CSOCSO
10-19-2008, 04:03 PM
does anyone has the same experience what i have?
i got this 22 inch magnaflow resonator it was working like a charm but after one year i got much more rasp... it seems like the resonator worn out...

aryan13
10-20-2008, 12:20 AM
You think two 18" Magnaflow resonators that are 4" in diameter would kill my rasp?

How about two 18" Magnaflow resonators that are 6" in diameter?

CSOCSO
10-20-2008, 01:23 AM
you would scrape the 6 inch ones.. get two of the 4 inch ones!

aryan13
10-20-2008, 02:36 AM
You think the two 4" diameter ones would do the trick?

CSOCSO
10-20-2008, 02:43 AM
yep.. it will be fine.. of course it wont make any miracles but it will help a lot.
if you dont want rasp go back to oem header.

BZinn1
10-20-2008, 04:30 AM
differant sizes and lengths will make differant effects at differant RPMs.....it is hit or miss to find what you like best....for me 2 shorter resonators seemed to work better than one longer one.

aryan13
10-20-2008, 05:01 AM
I would go back to the oem exhaust manifold, but I like the look of the header.

jimmyjun
10-20-2008, 06:00 AM
i would go with 6" round and with 18" or larger in lenght. youll have no rasp with that set up.

aryan13
10-20-2008, 04:52 PM
CSOCSO says that a 6" would scrape. I'm thinking that there should be enough clearance. Then again I don't have my tC slammed.

CSOCSO
10-20-2008, 06:01 PM
if you lowered go with the 4 inch.. if not.. maybe you could try the 6 inch but dont yell at me if you scrape it.

aryan13
10-21-2008, 03:29 AM
Well I went with a 22" Magnaflow resonator and a 18" Mangnaflow resonator. So a total of 40" of resonator. That was the most I could fit on the midpipe. Hoping this will silence the rasp.

CSOCSO
10-21-2008, 03:59 AM
you just bought it or its installed already?

two of the 18 would be almost the same.

aryan13
10-21-2008, 05:25 AM
Just bought them. I know 2 18" would have been 36" of resonator. Just being a little precautious with the extra 4".

CSOCSO
10-21-2008, 05:30 AM
could you make 4 videos for us?

1) dont put the camera too close to the exhaust.. put it like.. 10 feet away

2) 2 video when the engine/exhaust is cold and 2 when the engine/exhaust is heated up

what i mean.. start you engine before u get the resonators installed.. do the video.. drive around for like.. 15 minutes. and make another video1

get the resonators installed.. go home.. next day make a video when you start your engine.. drive around and make another video..

THEN wait 3 months and make another video.. after that another 6 months and make another video :D

so we can see that they really worn out or not.

aryan13
10-21-2008, 05:46 AM
Ill try that out.

Are you looking to see if the Magnaflow resonators degrade over time?

CSOCSO
10-21-2008, 03:18 PM
yes.. i have magnaflow resonator and i think it worn out after a year... i got rasp a lot.. and even the exhaust sounds different.

when the system was new it had a weird noise.. like a back breathing noise. i know it sounds stupid but i cant explain.. but i dont have that noise anymore and i got more raso. So i think the resonators are degrade/ worn out after a while

Diluvium
10-22-2008, 06:19 AM
i kept stock resonator and remove the cat with a 2nd resonator by Thrush at advance autos for 31 bucks. its about 2.25" inlet and 25" length with no rasp at all. pretty cheap and definitely gets the job done!

TheMerovingian
10-22-2008, 09:16 PM
I will be purchasing a Strup header soon and was wondering, since I just have a Magnaflow catback, would a 22" resonator be enough? Also, where on the exhaust would this go? Does it replace the midpipe?

CSOCSO
10-22-2008, 11:46 PM
it does not replace the midpipe but it has to be welded on it.

22 is gonna be good. but you will never get rid off the rasp completely.
BUt it will be much better than nothing

Diluvium
10-23-2008, 07:12 PM
2 resonators will clear the rasp PERIOD

Diluvium
10-23-2008, 07:19 PM
ill post a clip soon and show you my set up and sound soon......

TheMerovingian
10-23-2008, 07:36 PM
One more question: since I will have this welded on the stock midpipe, would I need the 2 1/4" outlet, or can I go with the 2 1/2" outlet?

Diluvium
10-23-2008, 08:07 PM
i have a 2.25 (1/4) outlet and inlet on the thrush resonator and it is installed right next to my stock resonator, it should fit. the muffler shop guys will make it fit with the welding. if you go bigger on the outlet then they should add some custom pipping but it wouldnt look "clean". regardless they'll make it fit for its price.

CSOCSO
10-24-2008, 06:08 PM
nothing will eliminate rasp... it will reduce.

if you dont want rasp install your oem header back.. or get resonators and cat.

david90
10-26-2008, 04:14 PM
yes it matters. bigger and longer with a big head is good. At least that is what my gf told me :P

jwaggz82
10-27-2008, 07:51 PM
You want to use 2 resonators that equal the length of 30" - I have a 14" and a 16" - the 14" came stock on my exhaust and I added another one that I bought at the muffler shop. I would tell anybody to just go to a muffler shop and buy one there for $40 then have them put it on. Dont worry about the jazzy ones - bring it to a muffler shop that has been around for 20years and that the guys have been there since born ...ha. they will have the car done in 1/2hr

CSOCSO
10-28-2008, 12:01 AM
why 30?
what is the problem with two 16 or 18?

btw 16=14
and 14=12 because 1-1 inch at the two end is just the pipe....

jwaggz82
10-28-2008, 12:53 AM
why 30?
what is the problem with two 16 or 18?

btw 16=14
and 14=12 because 1-1 inch at the two end is just the pipe....

because ive read in the other 100 posts about resonators ...that two of them that equal around 30 is best ...and thats what i have on my car - so .......

CSOCSO
10-28-2008, 12:56 AM
its just doesnt make any sense... they can have two 18 without problem.

jwaggz82
10-28-2008, 01:25 AM
its just doesnt make any sense... they can have two 18 without problem.
get two of them and make sure they equal the total length of 28"+ thats all im saying

aryan13
10-31-2008, 04:09 AM
Size does matter!! Just got my resonators welded in and the length of the resonators had a lot to do with eliminating the rasp. I got an 18" Magnaflow and a 22" Magnaflow resonator. That's a total of 40" of resonator. Rasp is gone and the resonators didn't change the tone/ volume of the exhaust.

Here's my setup-

DME header > Magnaflow High Flow CAT > 18" Magnaflow resonator > 22" Magnaflow resonator > Tanabe Medallion Touring exhaust.

jwaggz82
10-31-2008, 11:35 AM
^ good job - im sure it sounds a lot better now

aryan13
11-01-2008, 03:10 AM
I hope if I add a downpipe it won't change the sound much.

Ace83
11-01-2008, 01:29 PM
it shouldn't change that much.. or maybe a little if you get rid of the high flow cat but i think the quality would still be the same

jwaggz82
11-01-2008, 01:43 PM
it shouldn't change that much.. or maybe a little if you get rid of the high flow cat but i think the quality would still be the same

yup

aryan13
11-01-2008, 10:26 PM
Adding a downpipe doesn't remove the second CAT does it? It replaces the section of exhaust between the header and the second CAT where the second o2 sensor is. Correct me if I am wrong.

jwaggz82
11-02-2008, 01:02 AM
Adding a downpipe doesn't remove the second CAT does it? It replaces the section of exhaust between the header and the second CAT where the second o2 sensor is. Correct me if I am wrong.

nope the first cat is on the header, the second is after the spipe (its on the midpipe) - the order goes:

header --> spipe --> midpipe --> exhaust

aryan13
11-02-2008, 01:17 AM
Looks like the downpipe is the final piece to the exhaust puzzle.

dtc
11-02-2008, 04:10 PM
has anyone considered any power loss due to larger or mulitiple resinators?

aryan13
11-02-2008, 04:24 PM
There will be some power loss but it’s not much considering what you have gained from adding header/ exhaust. That’s not to say the gains from an exhaust are great but I can live with +/ - a couple horsepower. You may be not seeing the total benefit of having a full exhaust but at least your car doesn’t sound like a rice monster.

jwaggz82
11-02-2008, 04:45 PM
There will be some power loss but it’s not much considering what you have gained from adding header/ exhaust. That’s not to say the gains from an exhaust are great but I can live with +/ - a couple horsepower. You may be not seeing the total benefit of having a full exhaust but at least your car doesn’t sound like a rice monster.

and also you need to look at a dyno - more hp down low surely means more then the few extra hp on top

aryan13
11-02-2008, 05:03 PM
Come again?

jwaggz82
11-02-2008, 05:07 PM
if you look at the dyno graph of before and after ....for every install you do .... if you see that you have more hp through out the band .... it sure makes the car better to drive then if you only get a few extra hp on the top end

aryan13
11-02-2008, 05:42 PM
True, true. Haven't had my car on the dyno yet but from I noticed not much difference once resonators were in. I'm no high tech computer though. In fact I am actually able to drive my car now and not have to worry about the constant embarrassment that came farting out of my exhaust.

The key is drivability.

jwaggz82
11-02-2008, 05:56 PM
^thats a huge gain - i know what you mean - people hear my car and are like WOW - cause its real deep sounding - none on that ebay sound rice

gilbert9606
08-04-2009, 08:41 PM
Setup

Weapon R header w/Spipe/ Stock midpipe/ tsudo exhaust....


I got it installed sunday and I love the way it sounds when idle deep very throaty... now higher RPMS it sounds like a ____ed off bee.
Iwent to the muffler shop today to get an extra resonator installed on the midpipe but he said there is no room.

So how can some of you get multiple resonators installed with the stock midpipe?

What are suggestions. and links to websites so I can make some purchase about quieting my setup...

Its really annoying.

when i had the stock exhaust it was quiet... I guess thats the only solution.

jwaggz82
08-05-2009, 01:07 AM
Setup

Weapon R header w/Spipe/ Stock midpipe/ tsudo exhaust....


I got it installed sunday and I love the way it sounds when idle deep very throaty... now higher RPMS it sounds like a ____ed off bee.
Iwent to the muffler shop today to get an extra resonator installed on the midpipe but he said there is no room.

So how can some of you get multiple resonators installed with the stock midpipe?

What are suggestions. and links to websites so I can make some purchase about quieting my setup...

Its really annoying.

when i had the stock exhaust it was quiet... I guess thats the only solution.

well - i dont know if you have the money but redoing your midpipe at this time would be good for ya. It wont cost much for the midpipe. Just depends if you put a cat back on. The resonator should only be around $40-60 and labor isnt much for a good shop. I had my local muffler shop put my second resonator on within 45min total. I think my second resonator is only 12 or 14" - and my initial one was 18"

gilbert9606
08-05-2009, 01:28 PM
well - i dont know if you have the money but redoing your midpipe at this time would be good for ya. It wont cost much for the midpipe. Just depends if you put a cat back on. The resonator should only be around $40-60 and labor isnt much for a good shop. I had my local muffler shop put my second resonator on within 45min total. I think my second resonator is only 12 or 14" - and my initial one was 18"

OK so should i remove to old resonator or buy a new midpipe with the new resonator?

CSOCSO
08-05-2009, 03:54 PM
remove the old one and let the shop make a new piping with the resoantor

beandip007
08-05-2009, 05:33 PM
What I am wondering is what would it sound like if you added a muffler instead of a resonator? I found this...
HP-2 MUFFLER
http://www.hushpower.com/product/30/HP-2+Series+Muffler+-+304S.html
I am wondering if this would have more of an affect over the resonator?

highvoltage1
08-06-2009, 05:59 PM
I bought 2 vibrant resonators from NGAmotorsports and got an awesome price. I havent instlled them yet as i havent had time or time to put my header/s-pipe on yet. I will let you know the outcome when all is said and done. But if you want vibrant resonators PM NGAmotorsports!

xdejablu3x
08-31-2009, 11:26 PM
I bought 2 vibrant resonators from NGAmotorsports and got an awesome price. I havent instlled them yet as i havent had time or time to put my header/s-pipe on yet. I will let you know the outcome when all is said and done. But if you want vibrant resonators PM NGAmotorsports!

any updates? i was thinking about getting vibrant myself. which vibrant's did you get? the regular or ultra-quiet?

xdejablu3x
09-08-2009, 04:03 PM
did anyone lose any back pressure for have their resonators eat up most of the midpipe?

krazyjvilled
09-09-2009, 12:34 AM
i have a 30 inch glass pack and it worked miracles... took down almost all of the rasp, and totally did away with that high pitched metal grinding sound

xdejablu3x
09-20-2009, 01:56 AM
the only thing keeping me from getting glasspacked resonators is that they seem to burn out over time. well, from what i hear on these forums anyway. some of the people running 30" magnaflow resonators say it worked really well at first but over a year or so it lost its effectiveness and became louder.

CSOCSO
09-20-2009, 06:37 AM
i dont know about the cherrybomb but its true about the magnaflow resonator. after two years my exhaust is raspy as a honda. it was much better before.... get two aero!

xdejablu3x
09-23-2009, 08:23 PM
is anyone running a big resonator like the vibrant ultra quiet or any other hotdog style resonator with a highflow cat? im just trying to see what all could fit on a custom midpipe.

danielv
06-02-2010, 07:13 AM
sorry to bring this back from the dead.

I have the dezod n/a catback and want to get it a bit quieter ( i have a lot of old neighbors), I also have a cai. I have been looking at vibrant ultra quiet resonator or the aero ar25. Does anyone have any experiences with them? I have a unknown crappy 18' resonator and it seems like it is wearing out. I just googled some reviews on them

the dezod is 2.35 piping, do you guys think these two would fit it? http://vibrantperformance.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1021_1033_1055&products_id=45
or
http://moesperformance.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_214_295&products_id=1682

other resonator review
http://scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185431&highlight=aero+resonator
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f5/t97269-resonators-mufflers-little-known-younger-brother.html

CSOCSO
06-02-2010, 07:27 AM
i have a 24" magnaflow and i just ordered my 14" aero

i will do a before after shoot.

i really wonder that after a while these resonators stop keeping the noise down so we need to buy them every other year or so. My exhaust farts like a honda.... ( it wasnt perfect before since i have header but it wasnt this bad)

danielv
06-02-2010, 07:52 AM
I guess its a way of keeping us coming back to spend more money :/

xdejablu3x
06-03-2010, 04:45 AM
a lot of people say the fiber glass burns out in the magnaflow resonators.

BlackonBlack305
06-08-2010, 03:29 AM
i used to have a cherry bomb mounted right before the outlet of my exhaust on my old car (was a v6) and it made the exhaust note so much smoother...I wonder if moving it further back from the header would help in quieting and eliminating rasp

GQQSE13
06-08-2010, 12:01 PM
i'm using an 18" glasspack resonator and have for a few months w/ very little rasp (unless i hit higher rpm's)