I want just a wee more kick
and saw the CXRACING kit for 1500?
how do people feel about it

and what else is there out there
I don;t really want more then maybe 250 whp

 

Buy it and tell us whats up. Seems like possible success.

 

turbo kit for $1500 dollars...sounds like you want to order a heaping helping of fail.

look, the tc has the same powertrain as the xb, yet, the dezod, turbotoyotas, and greddy turbo kits cost about 3,500 dollars, and that is without bigger injectors or fuel management options.

remember, you get what you paid for, you gotta pay to play, and don't boost on a budget.

 

I say go for it. Cxracing has decent reviews from other car forums. No one claims that it will reach high numbers or any of that bs but for a respectable power boost I don't see why not.

 

yea thats the thing get me its cheap and not a ton of power very streetable

I wish i knew others with this kit

 

I too am thinking about pickin up the cxracing kit. I kinda want the economy to level out before I go spending a couple grand on something I don't have a need for though.

Also just a side note, hasn't anyone ever thought it a bit strange that turbo toyotas will offer EL style manifolds with thier kits for the same price as everyone else selling log manifolds as part of thier kit? Wouldn't labor alone make these kits cost more? Could it possibly be that other companies wallets get a little fatter when selling more expensive kits? I do fully understand that cxracing has a cheaper made product, but to say this kit is crap because you can buy this kit for X amount of dollars when the next best thing is twice the price is not a good arguement. Yes it is a china made knockoff turbo, but how hard could it be for a company to make a cast of an existing product? I'm sure the quality has improved since they first hit the market.

If everyone had this opinion about everything else scion would not even exist due to them being an affordable car. I in no way ment this post to bash on turbo kit manufactures like turbo toyotas or dezod, you guys are great. Compaies that actually make the turbos themselves have been selling products that were designed 10+ years ago for an absurd price in my eyes. How much could it really be costing them to produce a single turbo when all the R&D was done so long ago? Yes I know that there are new turbos out that impliment new technology and I have no problem with the price they ask because they are new. End rant.

 

I don't think the casting is an issue. IMO, materials selection would be the biggest cost differentiator. Seals, bearings and turbine blade can be of different grades and that injects a cost variance. Also, you pay $$$ for tighter production tolerances, even with identical designs and materials. The payoff is that failure rate generally goes down as tolerances get smaller. Remember, with multiple interfaces, that .008" + .016" + .002" can grow to be significantly large in terms of gapping.

In the end, are you willing to potentially pay more $$$ in repairs or component replacement for premature turbo failure, or worse, engine damage for a lower up front cost? It's all up to you. I know Dezod actually switched from Turbonetics to Garrett because of this.

 

hmm so get the CX and swap out the center section for a turbonetices or Garrett =)

 

I do know that tolerances will pay a huge differece in the longevity of any mechanical part. You gave the example that dezod switched to garret because tubonetics pieces were having issues with premature failure. Arnt these chinese rip-offs based of garret designs? Also how long ago were t3 and t4 variety turbos designed? They have been around almost as long as applicable turbos have been. After all this time prices should drop on these pieces is all I'm tryin to say. Anything else in todays economy will eventualy lower in price once the R&D has been paid for. There wouldn't be a market for these rip-offs if companies like garret would just pull the stick out thier butts and sell thier out dated old designs for what they are really worth. The chinese companies, however much I don't like or approve of thier government, are proving the point I'm trying to make by offering near identical parts for a fraction of the cost. Yes the labor is cheaper but in any mass produced item I can't see the price varying from $150 to $1099 just because of labor issues. IMO once these rip-offs prove thier reliability these "great amercian companies" are going to have a deal of crap to deal with. Look at Ford or GM, theres only so long you can sell a product that isn't any better then the competition, if not worse than, for a much higher price and expect to survive based on reputation.

 

Just try to find a kit that does not take over 6 months to get after you paid for it, lol!

 

did you get the rest of yours tainox? i cant beleive i got most of mine lol

 

Its not funny, but were getting closer

And the new TT is almost ready. There will be no more waits like there was. No more manufacturing issues, and pretty soon I will be available during normal business hours. Imagine a TT like there should have been from the get go.

The xB kit will be available again soon (two versions SIMPLE and BASIK)

Regards-

Todd

 

Todd your alive!!!!! FYI, Todd has been texting me constantly about my parts. Looking foward to it all Todd.

BTW you are probably the only reputable kit out for the XB thus far!

 

well i'm kinda stuck in this car now! no will give me more then 12k on trade in and its only has just under 6 k!
So whats kit will get some safe power like say 220whp?

 

Well you can try to get a hold of Todd at TurboToyotas and see if he has any kits in stock raw, he sometimes has them in raw finish.

Import tuner claimed 210.3 whp and 186.6lb-ft on a 2008 supercharged xb, thats about as safe as you can get.(Jan 2009)

No one really came up with any real info on the cxracing kit but the parts are knock-offs. Blow off valve and turbo are knock offs. Replace the BOV and turbo and get fuel management and a tune, IC and pipeing and dp should be good.

 

yea I love S/C's but the draw backs are not what i'm looking for turbo is the only way to go and save on gas!
I want safe power and turbo low boost should do that and still get good MPG

 

say the kit looks good but is there any fuel management?
and whats his price on the RAW kits

 

The kit is without fuel management which he can include for n extra price. As for raw, that just means no powder coated pipes just raw steal/aluminum. You would have to contact him for pricing as the kits have been slightly changing.

As far as fuel management you can use AEM FIC, Greddyy Emanage bblue/ultimate, or standalone. All have to be hard wired into your harness as there is no pnp harness as of yet.

If you really think you are going to save on gas with a turbo, good luck. Maybe in theory, but boost is addictive and hard to stay out of.

 

yea most have that problem ! I don't the only time i want more power is on the high way
and i don;t always go on the high way.
I have the mr2 s/c for boost fun and the ae86 for crazy driving!

I mean my goal of 200 whp should be not that hard to hit its a dang 2.4 and always has some good power as for buring more fuel
what can the stock ECU handle?
as far as boost?

 

Well the cxracing kit claims 200whp on 5psi stock ecu and injectors, and 300 with a tune and larger injectors. I believe the 200 is true and shown on thier dyno but I'm a little hesitant to believe the 300whp claim until I see someone prove me wrong.

Your choices are pretty limited right now on kits. Theres cx-racing, turbo toyotas if they are available, descendant(comming soon), and I think treadstone may have released a kit. The descedant kit is nice but last I checked it costs like $5500

Dezod put thier kit on the back burner until a Pnp harness is released. That also means if you want a kit with anything over 5psi on a smaller turbo you have to hardwire your fuel managment of choice to your ecu. I am not even sure how well the stock ecu will compensate for 5psi even on a smaller turbo but cxracing claims it works. I guess it kinda makes sense looking at the s/c. The sc runs 7psi and 210whp(taken from dyno in some mag) and thats with the parasitic loss of the s/c.

If you do try to run the cx kit on a stock ecu make sure you have all the proper gauges so you can make sure your not running to lean or anything. I wouldt just take thier word on it.

G'luck and share with us what ever you decide to run!