Like many xB owners I'm interested in filling the ugly fog light blanks with something that provides utility and enhances appearance. I just don't want to pay over $200 for the Scion brand kit. I've read most of the threads about aftermarket fog lights and most have mounted them in the grill or below it.

I know many hate Amber and are "clearing" their headlights of the amber reflector. I like amber, both for looks and for safety. I think amber will add some color to my rather bland TCM front.

I found some amber aftermarket Taiwan knock-out lights made to replace OEM Toyota lights. They appear to have the same electrical connector that's taped right inside the xB fog blanks. My local Pep Boys let me test fitment and they fit fairly well. I would need to fabricate custom mounting, but it doesn't look very difficult.

These amber lens are DOT certified, curved similar to the xB and are reasonably good quality.

10.25" x 2.75" Stock xB blank approx. measurement
7.25" x 2.25" Amber light approx. measurement
--------------
3.00" x 0.50" extra to divide up for a mounting face plate.

All that's needed after plugging in the electrical connectors and mounting the light is plugging in a three prong relay and a rocker switch. I already have three rocker switches in place in the center console.

See the following for DIY How-To xB Fog Light installation:

http://overboost.com/print.asp?id=1098

Here's info on web ordering these amber lights:

http://www.autodynamic.com/transfer/dbimages/small/OEM-312-1609L-AS.jpg

Product ID: OEM-312-1609L-AS
OEM No: 81520-89134
Description: TOYOTA PICK UP 2/4WD 89-95/4RUNR 90-91 SIDE LAMP ASSEMBLY LEFT HAND
PARTSLINK: TO2520105
Price: $15.41
http://www.autodynamic.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=OEM-312-1609L-AS

OEM No: 81510-89134
Product ID: OEM-312-1609R-AS
Description: TOYOTA PICK UP 2/4WD 89-95/4RUNR 90-91 SIDE LAMP ASSEMBLY RIGHT HAND
PARTSLINK: TO2521107
Price: $15.41
http://www.autodynamic.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=OEM-312-1609R-AS

Another model amber light could be considered. It's 0.5" too long but could be modified. The height and curve are about right. The light is from my 1996 Toyota Camry. I tested fitment; the electrical looks right. Mounting could be fabricated.

http://www.autodynamic.com/transfer/dbimages/small/OEM-312-1606R-AS.jpg

Product ID: OEM-312-1606R-AS
OEM No: 81510-06032
Description: TOYOTA CAMRY 95-96 SIDE LAMP ASSEMBLY RIGHT HAND
PARTSLINK: TO2531117
Price: $14.19
http://www.autodynamic.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=OEM-312-1606R-AS

OEM No: 81520-06032
Product ID: OEM-312-1606L-AS
Description: TOYOTA CAMRY 95-96 SIDE LAMP ASSEMBLY LEFT HAND
PARTSLINK: TO2530117
Price: $14.19
http://www.autodynamic.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=OEM-312-1606L-AS

I'm still considering what to do and have not ordered anything yet. Comments? :P RPM

Umm, I like my clear fog lights. But if I did not want to pay $350, I dont see anything wrong with them. It kinda reminds me of the MINI Cooper daylight running lights.

-nt

I like amber, but I think that would make them look too much like turn signals.

lol. They would, also, I am not sure how well Amber will go with the colors of the xB's. Green and amber, or black and amber, that will work. But white and amber, or blue and amber :| .

-nt

I like the idea of amber fogs too. I bought the factory kit and planned on getting the 100 watt bulbs. The factory 55 watt bulbs are much to dim for me. I work night shift and do all my driving at night. I remember seeing amber colored bulbs for the fogs somewhere. (Just can't remember where) That's an idea for you......get the factory fogs and add the amber bulbs. The best of both worlds. Easy fit and great light.

Thanks for the detailed right up and great info.
:D

I've been thinking about fog lights for my Camo xB
because with the the NY weather, they would get a lot of use.

I think yours would look good and be functional and their a great price!

I am still debating using one of my xB's driving light blanks
as a place to put in a ram air intake.

Decisions, decisions...
:roll:

I think yours would look good and be functional and their a great price!
Well, I decided to give this a try... My neighbor has a 1997 Toyota 4Runner and his amber lights looked about the right size. He let me measure them. They're about 9" wide x 2.75" tall... Almost the perfect size! They don't have as much curve as the xB fogs and I'm not sure that the electrical connector is the same (I'm hoping and assuming it is).

So here's what I ordered:
http://www.autodynamic.com/transfer/dbimages/small/OEM-312-1623L-AS.jpg
Product ID: OEM-312-1623L-AS
OEM No: 81520-35120
Description: TOYOTA 4 RUNNER 96-98 SIDE LAMP ASSEMBLY LEFT HAND
PARTSLINK: TO2530125
Price: $16.33
http://www.autodynamic.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=OEM-312-1623L-AS

Product ID: OEM-312-1623R-AS
OEM No: 81510-35120
Description: TOYOTA 4 RUNNER 96-98 SIDE LAMP ASSEMBLY RIGHT HAND
PARTSLINK: TO2531125
Price: $16.33
http://www.autodynamic.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=OEM-312-1623R-AS

Total: $42.32 Shipped

I hope they fit and that I can fabricate a mounting system without too much difficulty. :D RPM

can we see the end result please?
thanks,
sid

can we see the end result please?
I've been on vacation and I'm still catching up with stuff. Here's an update on my project:

The electrical connector is not the same, but this was not a problem; I used a crimping tool and fabricated my own water resistant wiring harness that connects to the existing stock wiring.

The lights fit and look great, IMHO. I'm working on fabricating a mounting system. I'm about half way done. I also purchased a $5 relay and made a custom wiring harness that plugs right into the xB socket. The Toyota/Scion relay would have cost over $50 from the dealer and I was not able to find one at a wrecking yard or other parts supplier. I'm happy with the lights and can't wait to install them permanently.

I'll post pics when I complete the job. :D RPM

I cant wait to see..

id like to see this, i like my amber corners. but i wouldnt get no fogs period

I cant wait to see..
Sorry for the delay in my presentation of my "Cheap Amber Fogs."

I injured my right leg last week and I'm limping around in pain. My cat suddenly developed diabetes, went into diabetic shock, and has been in a critical care animal hospital. My mother-in-law is having serious surgery next Monday. My wife is taking my xB up out of town to help her parents. :( I'm staying home to rest my leg and care for the sick cat. :(

Sounds like this would make a great Country Western or Blues song. :rofl: :shock: :rofl:

I'm still planning on posting how my new Fogs look and work out when I'm able. Later...

RPM

I'd get the amber ones, smoke the crap out of them, stick a clear bulb in my headlight corner, and use the fogs as turn signals.

hmmm...interesting...

I'd get the amber ones, smoke the crap out of them, stick a clear bulb in my headlight corner, and use the fogs as turn signals.
That's a great alternative idea and look!

I'm sticking with my original plan, but each to his own individual look and style is good.

You suggest: "smoke the crap out of the amber ones"
What ever... Amber or Smoked Amber.

Your idea of "stick a clear bulb in my headlight corner" will not work... the bulb is clear. You can clear the corners by the "oven method" or the "crack and remove the amber film" method.

Thanks for your alternative suggestion. It will work great for those who want the clear corner style.

RPM

Update on my "Cheap Amber Fog Lights"

Inside my house, I've continued to test the Amber Fogs that I purchased using a 12V DC source. Not unexpectedly, the lights get VERY HOT when run continuously for over 5 minutes. I understood that these lights were Toyota 4Runner Turn Signal lights and that they are made to blink off and on for short periods of time and not made to be left on continuously.

The bulb that comes with these lights is a #1156, 12 Volt, 320CP (I assume CP means Candle Power). They are very bright but get too hot to leave on for long periods of time... I'm sure they will melt the plastic socket or housing if left on.

Here's a possible solution: I located on the web, LED white 12 Volt, 27 Watt, #1156 bulbs.

LED1156W
1156 LED White Twist Mount Bulbs
(1 contact on bottom, 12V 27W, 4 LEDs per bulb) $14.80
(2 bulbs)
http://www.lightlens.com/coloredbulbs.htm

LED lights are known to be low heat and high light output. This relatively cheap pair of bulbs seems like it would work well with my left/right light assemblies.

Anyone have experience with this San Marino, California vendor? Are they OK?

Anyone care to comment on whether these LED bulbs would be a good match with my Amber Lens light assemblies?

Once again, sorry for my slow progress on getting these "Fogs" or "Driving Lights" mounted and operational. The project is coming together sloooowly... Thanks.

RPM

27 watts? that would only work like a flash light. i replaced the 55watts bulb in my fogs with 100watts to be content.
I just check the link, 1156 is for paklight/markers. not enough output for foglight use.

I'd get the amber ones, smoke the crap out of them, stick a clear bulb in my headlight corner, and use the fogs as turn signals.
That's a great alternative idea and look!

I'm sticking with my original plan, but each to his own individual look and style is good.

You suggest: "smoke the crap out of the amber ones"
What ever... Amber or Smoked Amber.

Your idea of "stick a clear bulb in my headlight corner" will not work... the bulb is clear. You can clear the corners by the "oven method" or the "crack and remove the amber film" method.

Thanks for your alternative suggestion. It will work great for those who want the clear corner style.

RPMSorry holmes, it's an amber colored bulb. Go outside and check.

anyone got a picture of this installed?

27 watts? that would only work like a flash light. i replaced the 55watts bulb in my fogs with 100watts to be content.
I just check the link, 1156 is for paklight/markers. not enough output for foglight use.
Watts are not a measure of brightness of a light bulb. Watts are the amount of electrical power the bulb consumes. Brightness is measured in Lumens or Candlepower (CP). LED bulbs consume less power (watts) than most other types of bulbs of the same brightness. For example, a 27 watt LED bulb may be as bright as a 50 watt conventional bulb. I do not know the exact brightness (Lumens or CP) of the LED 1156 bulb I'm considering buying.

Different light bulb technologies have different efficiencies. The efficiency (the term "efficacy" is used by scientists) is measured in lumens per watt, or LPW. (See "Lumens.") For two bulbs with the same brightness (lumens), the one that uses the least power (watts) will cost less to use.
http://www.electrical-online.com/howtoarticles/Lighting/Glossary.htm

The 1156 bulb is a bright (daylight visible) light used in blinking turn signals. The 1157 bulb contains two filaments. One filament is as bright as the 1156 (for blinking turn signals). The other filament is less bright and is used for night parking and marker lights.

My "Amber Fog Lights" maybe should be called "Amber Driving Lights." I intend them to make by xB more visible to other vehicles in fog, rain, snow, sun-down, early mornings, high-speed rural roads, etc. I do not expect my lights to shine as bright as true fog lights. True fogs illuminate the road in front. I do not expect my lights to do that.

RPM

Sorry holmes, it's an amber colored bulb. Go outside and check.
Oops. My bad. Amber film and Amber bulbs in the headlight corners.

:roll: :( :doh: RPM

27 watts? that would only work like a flash light. i replaced the 55watts bulb in my fogs with 100watts to be content.
I just check the link, 1156 is for paklight/markers. not enough output for foglight use.
Watts are not a measure of brightness of a light bulb. Watts are the amount of electrical power the bulb consumes. Brightness is measured in Lumens or Candlepower (CP). LED bulbs consume less power (watts) than most other types of bulbs of the same brightness. For example, a 27 watt LED bulb may be as bright as a 50 watt conventional bulb. I do not know the exact brightness (Lumens or CP) of the LED 1156 bulb I'm considering buying.

Different light bulb technologies have different efficiencies. The efficiency (the term "efficacy" is used by scientists) is measured in lumens per watt, or LPW. (See "Lumens.") For two bulbs with the same brightness (lumens), the one that uses the least power (watts) will cost less to use.
http://www.electrical-online.com/howtoarticles/Lighting/Glossary.htm

The 1156 bulb is a bright (daylight visible) light used in blinking turn signals. The 1157 bulb contains two filaments. One filament is as bright as the 1156 (for blinking turn signals). The other filament is less bright and is used for night parking and marker lights.

My "Amber Fog Lights" maybe should be called "Amber Driving Lights." I intend them to make by xB more visible to other vehicles in fog, rain, snow, sun-down, early mornings, high-speed rural roads, etc. I do not expect my lights to shine as bright as true fog lights. True fogs illuminate the road in front. I do not expect my lights to do that.

RPM

I'm not trying to be a smart ___ here, I actually respect your initiative and looking forward to your success, but 27watts is still in the factor. I know lumens or CP is the brightness factor, but it really hard for me to believe you can attain a decent light output and consider it as driving lights.
well, I hope i'm wrong and good luck.

I'm not trying to be a smart ___ here, I actually respect your initiative and looking forward to your success, but 27watts is still in the factor. I know lumens or CP is the brightness factor, but it really hard for me to believe you can attain a decent light output and consider it as driving lights.
well, I hope i'm wrong and good luck.
Sid, thanks for your encouragement and advice. I went ahead and ordered the LED1156W, 27 Watt bulbs from LIGHTLENS.COM. I'm not sure they will put out decent light. This project is an experiment and I'll just have to see how the lights work out. Actually, I'm happy with the way the Amber Lenses look even without wiring them for light. IMHO, they add some nice color to the rather bland TCM front.

:D RPM

I like amber, but I think that would make them look too much like turn signals.

Those ARE turn signals for the 1990's model toyota p/up, before tacoma. I had a '94 p/up and those lights are only turn signals; not sure how well they'll work as fog lights.

Well yeah but the xB already has amber signals. I don't think throwing those on there would look so cool. But its not my car.

I made a discovery last night. I found that White LEDs shining through my Amber Lenses produced a Yellow color, not Amber. Of course, conventional White lights shining through the same Amber Lenses, produced an Amber color. I actually tested this with two light sources.

I read an interesting engineering and science article that explained why this is:

LEDs Move from Indication to Illumination
http://www.edn.com/article/CA149134.html

... if you intend to use this so-called white light for color judgment or to produce specific colors using optical filters, you will have a problem. The... white LED does not contain red in its spectrum, so you'll get unexpected but entirely explainable results. The white LED fronted with a red lens yields a faint pink color, a yellow lens produces a yellow-green output, and a green lens produces a greenish-blue color. Therefore, you wouldn't use this LED as a backlighting source behind a translucent panel with different-color filters, such as in a display sign. You can use this LED in situations in which you have matched the color needs to the LED-output capability and limitations ...
I do not want Yellow driving lights. As I said before, I want Amber. I cancelled my order for White LED bulbs and ordered the following instead:

http://www.lightlens.org/led/led1157sa.jpghttp://www.lightlens.org/led/led1157sa.jpg
LED1156SA
1156 LED Super Bright Amber Bulbs
(twist mount, 1 contact, 12V 27W, 15 Super Bright LEDs per bulb)
(2 bulbs) $26.80

I'm hoping these bulbs will work great for my driving lights... low heat and "Super Bright." We'll just have to see if these Amber 27 Watt, 15 LED cluster bulbs are in fact bright enough. I should have the bulbs in about a week.

RPM

RPMxb is right.. wattage doesn't mean a thing really. Bulb type and contruction make a huge difference.

I am a theatrical lighting designer, and let me tell you, there are many many factors to consider: Bulb construction, Lumens, color temperature, and reflector style are just a few.

As an example, just 25 years ago in theatre we used a 1000 watt bulb (FEL or example) as the main bulb in ellipsoidal instruments. Now we have instruments that use 575w bulbs that put out virtually the same amount of light, and it's just as bright, if not brighter.

Not only do lumens indicate the brightness of a bulb, but you also have to consider what reflector style is being used. Chrome paint sprayed onto plastic doesn't hold a candle to what a nice glass dichroic reflector can do. A reflector that spreads the light all over timbuktoo won't be as effiecient as a focussed one. What color temperature the lamp is is huge. With LED lights we tend to talk in wavelengths. But people percieve different color temperatures as being "brighter" even if the output (lumens) is exactly the same. (e.g. 7500k looks brighter to most people than 6300k)

Interesting side note... i've been seeing a lot of the older orangy-looking sodium vapor lamps being replaced with the "newer" metal-halide (bluish-looking) lamps in parking lot lights... but have you ever noticed how even though they are "brighter", for some reason they just don't seem as inviting and actually make the parking lot look darker? (part of this is psychological.. we link orange with the sun...)

My point is there is no one right answer when it comes to lamps and assemblies. If it looks good to you, doesn't burn up, and puts out what is adequate light for you... then go with it. :)
:clap:

27 watts? that would only work like a flash light. i replaced the 55watts bulb in my fogs with 100watts to be content.
I just check the link, 1156 is for paklight/markers. not enough output for foglight use.
Watts are not a measure of brightness of a light bulb. Watts are the amount of electrical power the bulb consumes. Brightness is measured in Lumens or Candlepower (CP). LED bulbs consume less power (watts) than most other types of bulbs of the same brightness. For example, a 27 watt LED bulb may be as bright as a 50 watt conventional bulb. I do not know the exact brightness (Lumens or CP) of the LED 1156 bulb I'm considering buying.

RPMxb is right.. wattage doesn't mean a thing really. Bulb type and contruction make a huge difference ...

... My point is there is no one right answer when it comes to lamps and assemblies. If it looks good to you, doesn't burn up, and puts out what is adequate light for you... then go with it. :)
:clap:
mhungry, thanks for your comments and support. I've been busy making a prototype xB driving light.

I received the 15 cluster LED "super bright" Amber bulbs. When I tried the bulb in the light assembly the light was too straight forward directional and the color was a little too yellow. The light through the Amber lens was like a bright circle inside a dim Amber rectangle. I decided that I needed to add clear/white standard incandescent bulbs to make the lens light output a full bright Amber rectangle with a brighter center.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/lights01.jpg

The pic below shows my build project of cutting 4 plastic dual clear bulb assemblies so they would correctly fit inside the Toyota light housing. I soldered two 4 point grounding harnesses (white 18GA wire) and screwed the top and bottom dual bulb assemblies into the housing using brass screws.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/lights02.jpg

Here's what it looks like completed.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/lights03.jpg

Here's a close-up.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/lights04.jpg

Here's what it looks like lit-up. Note the the curved silver reflector is fully saturated with reflected light producing a full rectangle of light.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/lights05.jpg

Here's what it looks like with the Amber lens.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/lights06.jpg

I used flash photography on this last pic to show the inner light and illuminate the outside of the lens too.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/lights07.jpg

Now back to mounting and wiring the lights in my xB and installing the relay and toggle switch. I think I'll be pleased with the result.

As I stated before in this thread, I'm not expecting these lights to illuminate the area in front of my xB. Instead these lights will show other vehicles that I'm coming and hopefully avoid some dumb driver pulling out in front of me or deciding to pass on a 2 lane highway because he did not notice me coming.

RPM

quite creative......looks good lit up, hope the fitment looks good, post some pics of the install, plus how much did it cost you can you give us a parts list with approx price

i jes painted my fog lights and they kinda light up like the lexus is300 fogs....but a little bit darker...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/guam_roots/DSC01352.jpg

get the jdm yellow lights from luminics bulbs

get the jdm yellow lights from luminics bulbs

dont wanna seem like an ___...but id rather just paint the fogs rather than gettin the bulbs...ive heardsome people gotten the lights and are very dissapointed because it didnt turn out as good as they thought...and all you need to get is buy stain glass paint...and its way cheaper than gettin the lights..

i jes painted my fog lights and they kinda light up like the lexus is300 fogs....but a little bit darker...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/guam_roots/DSC01352.jpg

wat kind of paint did u use to paint your fog lights?

this isn't completely related, but it does have to do w/ non-factory fogs...
here's what I did - (major props to hawaiianbuilt for the inspiration and advise). I've since cleared the corners. however, I do like amber light - all of my interior lights are amber, including the speedo and cold cathodes.

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5531&cat=500&page=1

if the above attachment doesn't work ('cause I'm an idiot) - it's in my gallery

yeah... that's great. I am an idiot.

I've asked a few times how to post pics - and it never works. anybody want to post a how to? :doh:

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/500/medium/fog.JPG

right click on picture, go to properties,copy address til jpg, post link, highlight link , click Img botton.

the color i used was stained glass yellow....you should find it in a hobby shop

also if you guys need a place to host a picture...a really good place to host it is photobucket.com

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/500/medium/83753.jpg

hey, look at that. i did it. thanks sid.

the color i used was stained glass yellow....you should find it in a hobby shop

also if you guys need a place to host a picture...a really good place to host it is photobucket.com

do u have a picture during daytime of your fogs?

i jes painted my fog lights and they kinda light up like the lexus is300 fogs....but a little bit darker...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/guam_roots/DSC01352.jpg
I'm sorry, but they just look like extra turn signals. Maybe if aftermarket fogs were mounted in the lower grill. I could never figure out why the factory put driving lights mounted up so close to the headlights

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/500/medium/fog.JPG

right click on picture, go to properties,copy address til jpg, post link, highlight link , click Img botton.
What kind/brand of fogs are those? And where did you get them?

They look very similar to my Pilot ones I got from auto zone

What kind/brand of fogs are those? And where did you get them?[/quote]

um, I'd have to check my paperwork (at home), but I'm 90% sure they are Rally. I got them at PepBoys - that I do know. if they aren't Rally, then they were sitting right next to the Rallys on the shelf. I will check for you.

I wanted a good size to evenly fill the valance. these are like: 5 3/4" x 2 3/4" x 2" deep mounted from the top w/ the kit's "u" shaped bracket. I wanted rectangle since everything else on the front is. I wanted white, since every other light in the front is white.

They were literally a $19.99 kit including: lights, wiring, in-line fuse and switch. I used the Lowes OEM looking switch and some split fex tubing. install was an hour w/ most of that time spent on the firewall. the self tapping screws worked great on the lower bumper.

I just checked - they are:

Navigator - #NV540

I've been wondering what can go there. Haha, another set of foglights for my car...

Although the lights that scion sells, to me, aren't even foglights, just another pair of lights. : )

But awesome, there should be a tech walk through for these lights... I'll be so glad to see it

Here is my conversion:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/97v6accord/P5271714.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/97v6accord/P5271713.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/97v6accord/P5271712.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/97v6accord/DSC00375.jpg

Sweet! 8)

looks like a good project to get involved in later.

edit

oopps again :-(

RPMxb is right.. wattage doesn't mean a thing really. Bulb type and contruction make a huge difference ...

... My point is there is no one right answer when it comes to lamps and assemblies. If it looks good to you, doesn't burn up, and puts out what is adequate light for you... then go with it. :)
:clap:
mhungry, thanks for your comments and support. I've been busy making a prototype xB driving light.

I received the 15 cluster LED "super bright" Amber bulbs. When I tried the bulb in the light assembly the light was too straight forward directional and the color was a little too yellow. The light through the Amber lens was like a bright circle inside a dim Amber rectangle. I decided that I needed to add clear/white standard incandescent bulbs to make the lens light output a full bright Amber rectangle with a brighter center.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/lights01.jpg

RPM

you can also get these LED's they have side firing lights too
www.autolumination.com
http://autolumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/dwgs/1156_90_dwg.jpg
http://autolumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/dwgs/1157_90_1.jpg


and these lights are new to me from them.
sorry for the size
http://autolumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/1156_pt_a.jpg

I finally got my Amber Driving Lights mounted and wired.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/Pict0510a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/Pict0511a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/Pict0513a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/RPMxB/Pict0514a.jpg

RPM

hey Richard those looks great! Def. very creative. good job :bow:

i like them!

Wow, that looks like it could be factory.

hey Richard those looks great! Def. very creative. good job :bow:
Thanks Ray. See you at the Walmart Car Show on Saturday.

RPM

Wow, that looks like it could be factory.
Thanks Kev. Factory was the look I was trying to achieve.

RPM

The lights look cool. Are they hooked up as auxilary turn signals or just as parking lights?

The lights look cool. Are they hooked up as auxilary turn signals or just as parking lights?
Thanks. They are hooked up independently from any other circuit. They have a lighted (amber pilot light) rocker switch that grounds the circuit when the ignition switch and key are in the ACC or ON position. I intend to leave the rocker switch ON most days and nights. The lights will turn on when the xB is ON and the lights will turn off when the key is removed from the ignition. The lights draw very little power and generate very little heat because most of the light comes from two 15 LED cluster bulbs. They operate and act similar to Daylight Running Lights (DRLs) except they are amber.

RPM

OK, thanks. They prolly look bad a$$ at night. Keep up the great work.

you can also get these LED's they have side firing lights too
www.autolumination.com
http://autolumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/dwgs/1156_90_dwg.jpg
http://autolumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/dwgs/1157_90_1.jpg

Paul, the side firing LED's that you suggested look interesting. Too bad I already spent almost half a year trying to reinvent the wheel. Oh well, I'm still happy with the prototype I made, even though simpler solutions may be available. Thanks for your post.

RPM

ok cool just lookin out. i got these in my xB all around.