In the process of the prototype phase of the kit.

Some facts:

- You must relocate the factory battery
- Lower plastic dust shields must be removed
- kit includes new heater box line (lower)
- for the oil drain you must drill a hole into the engine girdle (just like the 1st gen xB)
- fits both the manual and automatic transmissions

Design features:

Sidewinder/log style manifold
2.5" downpipe bolts to factory exhaust/utilizes stock cat
Choice of turbos:
both internally wastegated (an external wg option might be available)

T3/To4B
GT28RS (will come with water lines and fittings)

Standard horz. intercooler core with 2" chargepiping
2.5" Air intake system (cold air style) with air filter

Extras:

(inlcuded)
Manifold/downpipe/turbine housing will all be ceramic coated

options:

There will be 2 heat shields offered for the kit. 1 for dp and 1 for turbine housing
anodizing of the intercooler(black)
Polished intercooler piping
Polished compressor housing
Custom powdercoating (intercooler piping, compressor cover)

Some teaser picts of turbo placement and air intake system.


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Regards-

Todd

any ideas on the price range and release date of this kit?? what about fuel management?

any ideas on the price range and release date of this kit?? what about fuel management?

Price will depend on turbo choice and options selected.

Base will be: $2750.00 with the T3/To4B without management

The first car is an auto so we are using Greddy Emanage and TC injectors for the fuel management.

Release date will be shortly after the first unit is installed and tuned.(within the next few weeks depending on the customers schedule)

Regards-

Todd

Looks Nice.


Question,

What does have to do the fact that the car is an Auto and that you are using an emanage? Not following!

Very interested on how the tuning side of the project goes. Please keep us updated.

What does have to do the fact that the car is an Auto and that you are using an emanage? Not following!

.

We are keeping it simple. Emange works and is and inexpensive option.

Regards-

Todd

Woo hoo!! $3k and I'm there! Ef this economy!!! I NEEEED to use 97 Octane gas!!

Man you guys are making it hard to not spend money lol i was planning buying a new motorcycle in march but this really makes me want to get a turbo instead nice work

no kidding, i thought this project had long been thrown in the dumpster... im trying to pay off the last bit of debt i have and i will be a cash-only customer!

Eh... its really cool that we will be able to turbo our cars but thats a lot of freakin work just to do it :? I'd love to turbo my car but I'm also in favor in keeping my warranty :doh:

where would you relocate the battery to?

Eh... its really cool that we will be able to turbo our cars but thats a lot of freakin work just to do it :? I'd love to turbo my car but I'm also in favor in keeping my warranty :doh:

Wanna know what the funny thing is? Engine modification doesn't void your warranty unless you physically alter the block itself... IE modifying bore, cams, valves, etc...

And the turbo will only void the warranty if the problem with your car can be traced back to the installation or use of it...

Sounds good in theory but if you go to a crappy dealer and there is even a remote link they will pin it on the mod. I broke a rod and the dealer blamed it on the TRD CAI, conveniently not warranted for an 06 xB. I had three written statements that the roads were dry that day, plus the weather monitoring stata data for the day. Their response is that only water ingestion could have broke it, they never said where the water came from on a dry day.

I think the head gasket leaked, possibly due to out of tolerance head bolts but won't be getting my warranty back without going to court. $250 for a spare used motor and a week in my garage for an engine swap was a lot more attractive so I haven't pursued it past arbitration.

If you so much as throw an engine code, they could blame it on the turbo, eManage, improper driving, abuse, etc to weasel out. I should have paid for the extra tow mileage and taken it to the dealer who acually understands the tuner community instead of an unknown one who was closer.

Sorry... Lemme add something...

Yeah, you're right, having a crappy dealer does have a lot to do with it. And I forgot to mention that in the warranty paperwork I've seen since working for Toyota, there is a clause about having a certified mechanic installing things doesn't void the warranty.

Yes I know modifying the engine won't necessarily void the warranty, but there HAVE been cases with tC owners that have been turboed having their warranties voided because the turbo caused the problem.

Evne if you take it to a modifying friendly dealer, which are far and few between, they still might try to pin it on you. Yes they have to prove the modification f'ked the car up but in the long run... I'd rather not chance it. I'll just start saving up for my A3 2.0T or the Subaru WRX STI hatch lol.

Interested, pls keep us updated-

PS Where is the battery relocation?

PS Where is the battery relocation?

Its the customers choice.

But I am considering building a small tray that will hold a small Kinetic style battery in the engine compartment.

Regards-

Todd

well it looks like ill be working alot of overtime for this one!

so what are some possible gains?

I know there was an xD that had the battery relocated under the driver's seat... it's somewhere around here.

PS Where is the battery relocation?

Its the customers choice.

But I am considering building a small tray that will hold a small Kinetic style battery in the engine compartment.

Regards-

Todd

Hi Todd ,whatever you fabricate should be optioned as part of your turnkey package. I cannot imagine trying to relocate my battery.

I saw in a rag this morning that the FIT already has a kit for sale (30+)reliable HP , all bolt-on.

How much more power does the 3K buy?

:D A turbo kit!!?!?!?!?!? :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: Definitely getting if it comes through

Any more news?

BTW guys I was thinking, if there is enough interest with this turbo kit AND you guys don't mind relocating the battery to underneath the driver's/ passenger seat maybe we could see about a group buy from Braille batteries with one of their thin carbon-fiber batteries?

Honestly, I think relocating it to underneath the passenger seath is better because you'd have to use a saws-all and cut out the jack holder underneath the driver's seat. I think I'm willing to do the relocation just to make the engine bay look a little cleaner.

Working on some of the fabricated parts....

But look for more picts/real updates after the Holidays.

With my schedule and the customers there is allot going on over the next month.

Regards-

Todd

PS- battery option will stay in the engine compartment.

Unless of course you decide to do something on your own.

i would kinda want to see the battery in the middle of the backseat floor, and get a small cover to match the center console :P I really can't wait for this, 2009 is going to rock for the xD

id prefer to keep the battery in the engine compartment if at all possible, or relocate it to the trunk somewhere.

how will going with the gt28 affect the price? dont know alot about going with different size turbos. the gt28 is smaller right? therefore, better spool times but less max efficiency?

GT28RS is a ball bearing turbo. Is smaller and faster spooling. It should also be more efficient. than the other option.

Either way I don't think this engine will take any of those 2 turbos out of their efficiency zone. At least not with stock internals.

A GT28RS should be good for 250-300 whp and should me more than capable to handle up to 14 psi of boost.

Price wise a GT28 is around $1200. Probably around $500 more than the first option.

i have my doubts if our engine could ever handle 14 psi :P

i have my doubts if our engine could ever handle 14 psi :P

it could just not for very long

GT28RS is a ball bearing turbo. Is smaller and faster spooling. It should also be more efficient. than the other option.

Either way I don't think this engine will take any of those 2 turbos out of their efficiency zone. At least not with stock internals.

A GT28RS should be good for 250-300 whp and should me more than capable to handle up to 14 psi of boost.

Price wise a GT28 is around $1200. Probably around $500 more than the first option.

so really the choice just boils down to how fast you want your turbo to spool up? a buddy of mine had a t3/t4 (i think is what it was) on a civic with a b18 swap, and it had trouble spooling it up until almost 4k rpms. not sure of any other details on the setup, but it was almost kind of annoying to even ride in that car (not just because it was a civic) because the lag was so bad.

I was trying to keep things simple by just offering the T3/t4 and the GT28rs..

but requests have made me change my mind, and there will be a few T25 flanged turbos available as well.

Regards-

Todd

what kind of power are you looking to make Todd?

Off course this is just a guess but I will like to think this engine should be good for 200-210 whp at 8psi

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I know this car.... ive even ridden in it a few times ... before they started in with all the crazy mods but I can say I'm one of the few people to sit in the #1 RS xD all I can say is this car is gonna be SICK cant wait to see the finished project

any updates Todd?

my xD is very hungry for a turbo!!!!!!!! ANY UPDATES?

I think I'm declaring this turbo a dead end... No updates for two months, not even a peep...

i have my doubts if our engine could ever handle 14 psi :P

Why are you saying this. It' s a low boost setup all engines can handle this!

Watching and waiting...

Watching and waiting...

Dude, I've got a feeling that you're going to be waiting a long time for this one. Todd was keeping us pretty well updated in the beginning of it, but nothing for almost 3 months now. I understand if its the economy slowing this down, but come on! If you're not going to do it or you are going to stop trying then let the people know that are waiting on it.

Personallly, I think if nothing comes of this within the next month I'm gonna go the way of the PR guy and mod a 1ZZ-FE header and build my own kit...

Watching and waiting...

Dude, I've got a feeling that you're going to be waiting a long time for this one. Todd was keeping us pretty well updated in the beginning of it, but nothing for almost 3 months now. I understand if its the economy slowing this down, but come on! If you're not going to do it or you are going to stop trying then let the people know that are waiting on it.

Personallly, I think if nothing comes of this within the next month I'm gonna go the way of the PR guy and mod a 1ZZ-FE header and build my own kit...
watching and waiting on this!

we're still not giving up on this, Todd!

I am not giving up either...

Most of the R & D is complete

I just need to get my hands on another car to finish the kit and test fit.

Anyone interested in letting my use thier car? Get a killer deal on a kit and free installation.

Regards-

Todd

rent a car, drive it to new york, lemme use it, take my car back to arizona, fit it, come back to new york with my car and a turbo :D

rent a car, drive it to new york, lemme use it, take my car back to arizona, fit it, come back to new york with my car and a turbo :D

now THAT is a smokin deal! haha.

how can you turn it down? :P

i swear if you were in NY i would be there tomorrow willing to pay whatever it is to have this car up and running with a turbo

I am not giving up either...

Most of the R & D is complete

I just need to get my hands on another car to finish the kit and test fit.

Anyone interested in letting my use thier car? Get a killer deal on a kit and free installation.

Regards-

Todd

PM'd you...

rent a car, drive it to new york, lemme use it, take my car back to arizona, fit it, come back to new york with my car and a turbo :D

now THAT is a smokin deal! haha.

how can you turn it down? :P

for real! :rofl:

I would be down if i was close i could prob get the car there could you PM me an estimated price of kit because i would have to drive out fly back and then come back to you when its done

Just so you guys know I have offerd up my car, BUT i have to wait till the end of my school semster(stupid need for higher education). But please if some one can do it now PLEASE let them use your car. I mean come on a turbo XD is badass!

Any word yet on this new test fit?

Good looking work so far. Nice to see a kit like this come to market. gt28RS FTW!!!

hey i just joined this fourm and was woundering how its going on the turbo set up for the xD????

hey i just joined this fourm and was woundering how its going on the turbo set up for the xD???? welcome, nd go to page one lol

Todd, I think we can do this...Sent you another PM...

First of all, I want to thank Todd at TT for talking with me today and answering ALL of my questions...Todd and I have come to an agreement and for the people that have been following this thread I have some great news... :clap:

TODD IS GONNA USE MY xD FOR THE TURBO PROJECT... :bow: I can't wait and we should be able to get started sometime next week...

Just so you guys know, I am a complete turbo noob so I am learning as I go along...I learned alot by just talking with Todd today and also with Luis (AZTURBO) here on SL...

I will try to keep you guys updated and I will let you know all the particulars when we decide on what turbo we go with...

oo man. ima start putting money on my piggy bank again haha

For sure i want one :) piggy here i come Hey Yelosub did he give ya an estimated or at least target HP you guys are shooting for

Nice, cant wait for the completion of this sucker!

For sure i want one :) piggy here i come Hey Yelosub did he give ya an estimated or at least target HP you guys are shooting for

Ok we are going with the Garret GT2803 turbo...We are doing AEM FIC for management and full tune so I will have dyno numbers when were done...After talking with Todd, we never actually committed to a HP number but he did say over 200 to the wheels...Maybe Todd can chime in and say what number he expects...Just so everyone knows, mine is an AUTOMATIC...

I will hopefully be dropping my car off Monday morning and Todd will have it for a month or so... :clap:

I honestly dont know if youll get to 200whp with the automatic. You should be at around 110whp now...

im holding off on all other parts until i hear the results of this :p

I honestly dont know if youll get to 200whp with the automatic. You should be at around 110whp now...

I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

I think its doable, especially with the piggyback computer...

I just think that with 180+hp we might be looking at stronger axles...

I think its doable, especially with the piggyback computer...

I just think that with 180+hp we might be looking at stronger axles...
clutch aswell

aftermarket clutches are already available. one of the advantages of sharing the yaris tranny

Well my car was delivered to Todd on Monday...Here is the thread for those that want to follow:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4151406#4151406

does anyone know if you'll have to upgrade the piston arms or heads or does it depend on the PSI your gonna push out???

does anyone know if you'll have to upgrade the piston arms or heads or does it depend on the PSI your gonna push out???

You will not have to upgrade the internals of the motor if you run the kit at the pre seleted psi.

Now as those who usually run around boosted for awhile always want more, at that point it will be time to look into building the motor. ie rods/pistons.

Regards-

Todd

true that i suggest strongly modified pistons and rod for more HP and low compression pistons, they are too high for 14 psi, i have 2zz xrs ACT clutch kit works perfect

how much psi can an xd handle stock?

personally, i wouldnt push it past 6 or 7psi for daily use. i think untouchable blew his motor at 12psi?

Untouchable, what were you using for fuel managment when you blew the motor?

i dont think he was using any fuel management, only a 5th injector in the intake controlled by a pressure switch.

and thats stock correct? without a tune?
im putting a turbo in mine next month, im trying to research and see what it can handle. im getting it tuned down the road. it just cost so much.. so im getting a FMU so i can run it temporarily (8 MONTHS-ISH) till i have the money to go in and get the e greddy system and have it tuned.

so for daily driving 6 and if i race stay under 11till i get the tune?

where can i find a map sensor for the xd?

and an exhust manifold...

and thats stock correct? without a tune?
im putting a turbo in mine next month, im trying to research and see what it can handle. im getting it tuned down the road. it just cost so much.. so im getting a FMU so i can run it temporarily (8 MONTHS-ISH) till i have the money to go in and get the e greddy system and have it tuned.

so for daily driving 6 and if i race stay under 11till i get the tune?

I would really suggest using the FIC to tune it. You cant partial throttle tune at all with the emanage

im going nos instead.. i think it will be easier

i dont think he was using any fuel management, only a 5th injector in the intake controlled by a pressure switch.

well there is an issue right there....

im going nos instead.. i think it will be easier

If your only plans are on the drag strip then this is ideal. Syphon magazine got 200hp out of a NOS kit, 75 shot I believe.

I was talking to Ian from FSR, he actually told me the stock intake manifold scatters the pressure too much beyond 10 psi. I think going beyond that would not only involve internals, we're looking at the intake mani also.

so what should i need for nos?
Check out my post in the link below.. let me know i have a good idea of what im doing or not. its my first nos setup.. and all i have to support my knowlege on nos is lots of reserch on nos... im going with a 65 shot i think. dry shot.

Copy and paste link below
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4244091#4244091

ok i blew up at 14 psi, later i was at 10 psi with a 5th injector of 577cc ran 10.9 on my wideband when boosted, when not boosted was like it was stock engine, right now i sold my kit to friends of mine, got tired of it, why?, because everybody knew was turbo and nobody wanted to race, saw all my friends racing their cars and i ended up as a "cheerleader" LOL, now currently i am replacing the engine for NA power pics...? here they go...

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where can we get headers for the xd?
are they the same as the xbs?

It is the same patern as the 1zz look up 4 their headers

where can we get headers for the xd?
are they the same as the xbs?

Dude, please use the search. There are no aftermarket headers for the xD.

website for turbotoyotas and also y are people saying that ur guys are out of business?

Yes! Have been since this summer i believe. Todd went Bankrupt and screwed people out of there turbo kits. He used the money from new kits that were purchased to pay for parts from old purchases and then went belly up.

and ii thought this thread got locked up lol

Webiste doesn't work for turbotoyotas.com so well whats the new website for turbotoyotas?

Webiste doesn't work for turbotoyotas.com so well whats the new website for turbotoyotas?

Umm, there is none...Todd went out of business and turbotoyota's is bye bye...

wow how many time will folks ask...

Mods should lock this thing up!

done.