http://newsok.com/phones-and-driving...rticle/3332125

That's a lot more dangerous than all street racing combined! Shouldn't there be laws that prohibit all cell phone use on the road? Must be that concept of "acceptable loss" again.

I wonder why you never hear much about this in the media? My guess is that "street racing" is flashier and more viewers = more money from advertisers, but that's just me

 

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ive street raced alot back in the day when i thought it was cool. i also use my cell phone alot while driving cause im military and im on call. i have never almost got in a accident. i have a really good record. ive gotten hit a few times. i will see people driving no cell phone and not even speeding and cant stay in there lane. it has nothing to do with "street racing" or talking on the phone. i promise u i can be on the phone and going through in and out of cars and drive better then half the people in cali.

 

thats is true.. cellphones kill more than street racing.. so dont use your cellphone while street racing its a bad combination

 

^LOL, he's mad because in the other thread about the car accident/death they where saying that he was because of street racing and how it kills people, which i will agree it is true but instead of blaming it at other things just accept the fact that the person died from street racing and not while talking on the phone because then they would have not been speeding.

 

 

you can be stopped at a light and get hit by someone. while you can street race for years and never get into one crash. its all what happens and being in the wrong place at the wrong time. end of story.

 

I think you've missed the entire point of my replies, but that's ok. Public School education ain't what it used to be!

Street racing is almost always claimed to be the ultimate evil that can be done in cars on these forums, when in actuality, there are things we do everyday all the time that are far worse, i.e. talking (whether it be on a cell, bluetooth, or the person next to you). I have nothing to be mad about, because I don't street race, but I think it's silly to call people stupid and idiotic for street racing when statistically they're safer doing that than I am on my way to class driving the speed limit.

I didn't imply that the blame should be shifted, or anything of the sort. I just don't like people using scare tactics and false information as facts

 

i would take someone on a cell phone and street racing drunk over old and asian drivers. i can say that im married to a asian girl haha

 

Personally, I'm afraid of short girls in huge lifted trucks...

Seen some horrible things

 

What a load of poop...... Poop I say! Dirty brown poop!

I have been using a BT device for years and while driving for over 3yrs. Not one problem from that. Sorry to bust that article clearly..

However MAYBE I am like 1% of the BT headset population that is a defensive, careful driver pretty much.

 

You didn't bust the article, you just haven't had an accident. The numbers are accurate. By that logic, I could say that anyone who thinks driving a turbo tC in Southern California is risky is a liar, because I've been boosted for over a year and have never been sent to the referee. I've even been pulled several times for other things and never even had my hood popped.

I've just been lucky though

 

bullpoop..... ( just for arguments sake)

Now your running boosted and I have allot of mods but so far have not gotten busted is just a statistic as well. PLENTY of people here have gotten busted and it changed everything for them. My lack of getting into an accident has ALLOT more to do with skill/ paying attention and Defensive driving no matter what. On the headset or not. But especially while on the headset. since there is some attention taken away to talk.

However 400% is bull in MY CASE. Now if you want to talk statistics compare it to other issues like smoking/eating/putting on makeup in the car. ESPECIALLY TXT'ing! WOW! How do people stay alive doing that!? When your eyes are off the road texting your attention is completely off of everything but inputting the right text.

So anyways I can't see that article as legit as it boasts or it's dwarfed by other statistics that are by far worse. How many people drink and drive??? but never admit it? I don't, never have (so far) but I know people who have buried friends over some fool driving drunk.

No one a BT headset paying attention to the road is 6 feet under that I know of unless some other driver eating a burger or some kid is texting his friend hits the Careful BT headset using driver hens killing the BT headset using driver

All I have to do is press one button on my ear without looking away from the road, unless I glance over at my iPhone in plain site hear the dash. That takes about the same time as if I am looking and reading my speedometer.

 

i also hate it when the driver looks at their passengers when they talk to each other while putting on makeup and eatting their cake from their eazy bake ovens

 

Not at all. It doesn't matter how "skilled" you are at driving while multi-tasking. The reality is that some of your attention is being taken away. Professional racers have their mind on one thing when they drive, and they do that for a living...

You're telling me that EVERYDAY OF YOUR LIFE while driving, you've not once been surprised by someone in your blind spot, accidentally driven out of your lane, or had someone merge into your lane unexpectedly and make you brake hard? If so, I'd say you're full of something

I don't think you understand how statistics work. You are 4 times more LIKELY to be in an accident than someone who is simply driving. The statistic doesn't compare to smoking/eating /etc, because that's not what it was measured up against.

The reason I posted this article is because it's something legal and something we do everyday that's far more dangerous than street racing. Statistics show chances, but they aren't (usually) absolute. A person with a history of fat people in their family is not doomed to be fat themselves, it just means they are more prone to getting fat than someone else.

That doesn't make any sense. The article doesn't compare itself to EVERY accident situation. Just against normal driving. Certainly those statistics exist though, and I did research them and post them on Scionlife a few times. Drunken Driving accidents are far more than 4 times more likely to occur. Once again, I don't think you understand how statistics work.

What's your point? There are a lot of people who've never had a friend killed by a gang member, but that doesn't change the statistical outcome either. I don't have any friends/family who've died from someone driving under the influence, but that doesn't mean that somehow DUI statistics don't include me. That doesn't make any sense.

And there we have it lol. It has NOTHING TO DO with looking away from the road. The minute you're engaged in a conversation, you've taken some of your brains computing away from driving. There are simply too many studies that show how detrimental multi-tasking while driving is to focusing on the road. We have blind spots in our cars, even if you're paying 100% attention to the road, someone can get right in there, you merge, and you have an accident. By nature, humans are flawed. To think that you are a machine incapable of getting in accident is ridiculous. To think that you are incapable of getting in an accident while talking is even more absurd.

 

I understand statistics enough to know this post is kind of just a means to argue a point and nothing else. But you know I don't recall attacking you or calling you names Relax kid. Oh and I don't have blind spots anymore. I am all about safety.

You can't even begin to bring in some of the arguments you are talking about. Race drivers??!!! Give me a brake. Only so much you can pull out of a hat to prove the point.

I mean far be it to for me to argue my opinion only with some added personal experience when all this tax payers $$ is being spent in a statistic to please "some one" not me....

We can nit pick each other and call each other names to death. It dos not make that article any more valid or invalid. I think it's kind of irrelevant to some of the MANY other bad driving habits that allot of people need to be talking abut and reading about.

I support anyone that uses a headset or BT device while driving if they can get there heads out of there buts and pay attention to the road. They are driving a deadly weapon. anyways this was fun but...

If I hit a car on my way to see dad today while on my BT headset some one shoot me

 

I've never attacked you, but clearly the way you're looking at statistics is faulty. How did you remove your blind spots? Your entire upper portion of the car is made of glass?

Break? The point is to illustrate that there are simply too many variables that are OUTSIDE of your control to so proudly boast that because of your "skill" level, you don't get in accidents. While yes, being more experienced will decrease the liklihood of you being involved in an accident, there are simply too many things that exist outside of your control that make accidents unpredictable and sometimes unavoidable. If race drivers are trained professionally for years to understand everything about their car, physics, inertia, track lines, and all the other myriads of driving, and they STILL get in accidents, who are you?

Tax payer money? AAA gets tax payer money? Sure you can use your own personal experience. That's an extremely shallow pool of data, and further proof that you don't understand statistics that well though.

I'm african american, but I don't have a family history of high blood pressure, so clearly every statistic about that is wrong. I've never caused an accident from driving, so the statistics about teenagers being bad drivers is dead wrong too based on my own experience. I have an Uncle who's smoked since he was a teen, but doesn't have lung cancer, so that's all BS too..



How is it irrelevant? Cell phone usage accounted for around 25% of all car accidents in the US. That's over 1.5 Million accidents, and mind you this was in 2002. The numbers should be much higher now that everyone has a cell phone.

25% is HUGE. It's not the greatest threat, but considering the fact that it's legal to do so, and the majority of Americans think like you and assume that BT's make things safer, and you have a huge problem.

lol, that's cool I guess. Just know that you might as well be holding the phone to your ear. Seriously, just google it and you'll see how many studies internationally prove this point. But hey, you're 38, and clearly age > scientific data!

 

This guys got it. It is not an object problem (cellphones, street racing, guns) its a people problem. Specifically, a stupid people problem.

Unfortunately it is much easier to pass asinine laws that it is to, well, you know.

 

I agree to a certain extent, but being on a cell phone talking doesn't automatically equate stupidity. It simply creates a distraction, whether you're aware of it or not.

Doesn't matter how old you are, how long you've been driving, blah blah blah. It's just a simple understanding of the way the brain works. Focusing on more than one thing is going to decrease efficiency.

Saying people are 100% the problem is a bit of a scapegoat because it implies that only stupid people get in accidents. That's not true at all.

 

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