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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 02:08 AM
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ok so i already know that the turbo will give you 2x power and all that, the charger seems not so impressive, until you mod it. So here it is...if in theory i do get the charger and do the entire turbo setup as far as fmic, ems, and so on could i put the charger in the turbo's place and expect the same results?? As far as I know that trd supercharger can hold up to 400+hp from the vortech background it has. is this at all possible to have that done???
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 02:51 AM
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Icenine was the highest whp S/C tC at like 310 or something with an assload of money in it.
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ok so i already know that the turbo will give you 2x power and all that, the charger seems not so impressive, until you mod it. So here it is...if in theory i do get the charger and do the entire turbo setup as far as fmic, ems, and so on could i put the charger in the turbo's place and expect the same results?? As far as I know that trd supercharger can hold up to 400+hp from the vortech background it has. is this at all possible to have that done???
surely you aren't serious.
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:01 AM
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he is serious and i dunno if he'd like you calling him shirley
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:10 AM
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I'm not sure he meant to literally move it to the physical location of where a turbo would go, I think he meant more along the lines of using an intercooler and aftermarket ems and bigger injectors or whatever with the supercharger instead of a turbo. At least I hope thats what he meant. Otherwise, he has no business thinking about super/turbocharging his car.
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:28 AM
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I read it as he thinks that if you did a complete turbo setup, and made X amount of whp, then turn around an install a S/C'er in place of the turbo that he will be around the same X amount of whp. No where near will you be in the same whp range. And you could have figured this out by searching.
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 04:30 AM
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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by the time u drop the money into the charger plus accessories and wanting to achieve your 400 or so..You would have gone surpassed the amount for a turbo..SO that should tell u a little something
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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do a custom twin scroll supercharger...it will have the cool whine...and you will be the first to do so...ive heard that the cobalt ss supercharger should fit nicely...trd supercharger= weaksauce
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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your an idiot turbo is extremely different from a charger.
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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^^calm down, lets not be harsh.
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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i think he's seriously serious. mucho loco thread.
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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dude if hes like for sure serious it would not be safe for him to get either done! lol do some research, learn about engines and cars, then come back if u have any questions. we all gotta start somewhere i guess.
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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I guess I don't know what I'm talking about
***note*** turbo manifold with turbo and.....is.....that.....yes a supercharger as well...I would have never guessed that could ever happen
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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so you get the turbo custom or kit... then 300+ estimated hp with a good tune, add the supercharger ***for low end boost and reduced turbo lag*** both at low boost combined why not expect to see impressive numbers
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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wow problem one is the s/c has more lag than most turbos put on the tc's the amount of money that took to do that setup was isane and that car was suposed to be 700whp but if i recall it only put down like 290whp i know that car was on ebay awhile back for like 20,000 its was a show setup only
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3192410
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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Twin-charging with the TRD supercharger most likely will not produce any gains. The s/c will restrict the air flow that the turbo will produce. Twin turbo would work a lot better since turbos can spin freely (compared to a supercharger that spins off of the crank pulley).
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jbush09
I guess I don't know what I'm talking about
***note*** turbo manifold with turbo and.....is.....that.....yes a supercharger as well...I would have never guessed that could ever happen
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...nchargedtc.jpg
No one got the correlation between your first post and twin-charging.


...could i put the charger in the turbo's place and expect the same results?? As far as I know that trd supercharger can hold up to 400+hp from the vortech background it has. is this at all possible to have that done???
Sounds like you want to build up a turbo setup, then remove the turbo and put the supercharger in it's place. Doesn't sound like twin-charging.

Besides, in order to get the s/c to spin fast enough to produce that amount of power, you would have to modify a lot of things, considering there is no way to make a s/c pulley small enough, nor make the crank pulley larger due to clearance. You would have to make a custom multi-pulley setup with an additional belt.




Not a great pic, but you see the extra pulley and belt to drive the s/c.
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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I remember someone doing both turbo and supercharger. The money spent on that car was obscene, and the results were not worth it at all. I think it didnt even hit 300 whp.



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