I'm pretty sure this has been talked about before. but its a new year. and more and more people join this site everyday.

So my question is. Who has cut their stock springs. Yea I'm going to go and do this pretty soon. I like the ones I have on right now. but I want my front to sit a bit lower.

I also know a lot of people out there say don't do this its not safe. you will get bad right quality and so on. but I don't need to hear this right now. but if you want to talk about it on here feel free to do so. but keep it polite.

so let talk about it. Who has done it. who is thinking about doing it ? Who want to know how to do it.?

Please dont do it! You gave reasons yourself. Buy springs or coilovers.

DO NOT cut your springs. Just trust everyone when they say dont.

Why are you trying to kill yourself or others? Don't be stupid.

i hope its a joke... if not, wtf? dont be cheap, be safe n do it right

Ya i mean i know you dont want to hear it but you obviously need to hear it...The cost of lowering springs is nothing compared to the safety and ride your going to get by cutting springs....

Dont be ignorant...This forum is here for a reason to gather information, knowledge and build a community and we are just trying to look out for you when we say dont do it...

and if money is an issue thats what piggy banks are for soooo start saving..

no its not a joke. I have cut springs before. it won't be my first car with them. If cut in the correct spot and using the proper shocks and struts it not dangerous like everyone thinks. On the celica that is on my profile I had cut springs on for about 2 years which lasted about 80k miles. in all types of weather and messed up roads. only problem I had was bottoming out on my friends drive way,

I will have to take about 2 -4 hours to adjust my alignment. but I'm not worried about this.

Buy Springs man your going through all the trouble of doing this, just shell out the couple hundred bucks save your self the headache

I have lowering springs on my tC right now. But I have another questions for everyone that is telling me not to do it. ( I understand why you are telling me not to, if done wrong it can be a super unsafe ride) . so my question is how many of you have cut springs before ? and how many of you have road in a car that had cut springs ? and please be honest and how many of you are just re posting what you have read other people write on this and other forums ?

Honestly my buddy had a 1st gen XB that he cut the springs and it was hell, so bouncy and all over the place, and this is being honest....It was long after until he decided to get real lowering springs...

What springs do you have on now? How low do you want to go?

Honestly my buddy had a 1st gen XB that he cut the springs and it was hell, so bouncy and all over the place, and this is being honest....It was long after until he decided to get real lowering springs...

What springs do you have on now? How low do you want to go?

did he change the shocks with some adjustable ones to adjust for the lower spring rate of the stock springs ? how did your friend go about cutting the springs ?

right now I have DZ Sports springs. I'm pretty sure most people on here don't have or heard about this springs. (but I could be wrong ) I have had them on my car for a year now maybe longer. and yes I got them off of ebay. everyone on this site was telling me not to get them. but they have turned out great for me. they handle great, I have put about 20K miles on them with no problems so far. I did the install my self. ( I don't trust anyone else touching my suspension )

I don't want to go any lower then I am now. In fact i want to going up half and inch in the back and down about 1/2 inch in the front. I want to redo my whole suspension this spring. shocks springs , bars . bushings . tires.

dont be dumb and cheap, get some springs.

dont be dumb and cheap, get some springs.

I have springs already and thank you for calling me dumb. I must be a super dumb person with all the times I have done this before.

It is HORRIBLE for handling, period. Safety or not, I am not sure why you would want to go to all that trouble to kill the handling of the car when you could just spend a relatively small amount of money and buy lowering springs. When you lower, you increase spring rate significantly to compensate. You are not doing this when cutting springs.

Those that have autox'd on stechs (too low and WAY too soft for the drop) can vouch for having too much drop and not enough rate (trds have higher rates and much less drop than stech.. and handle better) . you are on the bump stops in every hard corner. Cutting springs is this example to the extreme and then some handling wise.

Why redo your whole suspension setup half ___....I hope you dont think im coming off like a douche in all of this but if your redoing your whole suspension struts, sways, bushings.....WHY CHEAP OUT? I dont see the point in sacrificing the quality in the springs if your going to redo your whole suspension


And as for my buddy who did it on his 1st gen then switched i dont know how he did it because i didnt want anything to do with it and told him i would not help him do such a project....Although i did help when he installed real lowering springs

do it. obviously its shunned upon but just do it and be a first.
if it dont work out too well for u then dibs on the seats n waterfall

Why redo your whole suspension setup half butt....I hope you dont think im coming off like a douche in all of this but if your redoing your whole suspension struts, sways, bushings.....WHY CHEAP OUT? I dont see the point in sacrificing the quality in the springs if your going to redo your whole suspension


And as for my buddy who did it on his 1st gen then switched i dont know how he did it because i didnt want anything to do with it and told him i would not help him do such a project....Although i did help when he installed real lowering springs


because I'm really particular about suspension on all that cars I have had in the last 11 years of me driving. and with all the suspension I have worked on in my own cars family member and in my dads shop, I have found with city driving cutting a stock spring has giving me a smoother ride then after market springs on a few of those cars. . Any one that has done this as many time as I have will only add a few extra minutes to installs. ( I was taught my dad, uncles guy that have been working on cars since the 60's and have showed me how to do something that are now longer done just because people don't want to. or know how to do them. ) I have no problem doing my suspsion testing something out. if I don't like it I will take it apart and redo it. I'm the one my friends call when then need suspension work done to their car. everthing from BMW to Lexus to Honda. so for everyone that is saying i'm diong for doing I hope you are saying this cause you have done the work yourself and not just cause you read something online.

do it. obviously its shunned upon but just do it and be a first.
if it dont work out too well for u then dibs on the seats n waterfall


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okay...so your question is...who has cut their springs? well so far nobody has posted because they are either ashamed to admit how stupid they were or...dead?

if your so set on doing it regardless of the stupidity and consequences, why post at all? what does it matter how many other people have done it?

also, are you cutting your stock springs or your generic ebay brand DZ springs? i'm confused which set your going to actually cut.

i just don't get why people are so cheap when it comes to lowering springs, i mean, at most they could cost $200 dollars, but most of them are way cheaper. you have so many to choose from.

i knew someone who cut his springs and he wrecked his car...

I've been thinking about doing this too! :D

I'm getting tired of my SS-P coilovers so I might just sell them and cut my stock springs...

^ ur kidding me? ur tired of soilovers and are ready to cut stock springs? lmao thats a joke right ?lol

i know sum1 who cut there springs in a turbo talon and he ended up killing himself and sum1 else on the road cause the spring conked out on him rip

^ ur kidding me? ur tired of soilovers and are ready to cut stock springs? lmao thats a joke right ?lol

look at this face -----> -__- does it look like I'm kidding??

lmfaooooooooo "look at this face" lol

Why redo your whole suspension setup half butt....I hope you dont think im coming off like a douche in all of this but if your redoing your whole suspension struts, sways, bushings.....WHY CHEAP OUT? I dont see the point in sacrificing the quality in the springs if your going to redo your whole suspension


And as for my buddy who did it on his 1st gen then switched i dont know how he did it because i didnt want anything to do with it and told him i would not help him do such a project....Although i did help when he installed real lowering springs


because I'm really particular about suspension on all that cars I have had in the last 11 years of me driving. and with all the suspension I have worked on in my own cars family member and in my dads shop, I have found with city driving cutting a stock spring has giving me a smoother ride then after market springs on a few of those cars. . Any one that has done this as many time as I have will only add a few extra minutes to installs. ( I was taught my dad, uncles guy that have been working on cars since the 60's and have showed me how to do something that are now longer done just because people don't want to. or know how to do them. ) I have no problem doing my suspsion testing something out. if I don't like it I will take it apart and redo it. I'm the one my friends call when then need suspension work done to their car. everthing from BMW to Lexus to Honda. so for everyone that is saying i'm diong for doing I hope you are saying this cause you have done the work yourself and not just cause you read something online.

No, you are not particular about your suspension, you want to drop the car and keep a smooth ride, which is the absolute wrong way to do it. I explained this in my earlier post. You either want to lower the car, or ride smooth.. doing both absolutely kills any last shread of handling performance the car has.

. Its your car and you can do whatever you want with it... but I find it interesting for you to act like you are so particular and have so much experience, yet you would even consider doing this to the car. Most of us are not trying to bash you... but rather talk you out of a bad idea.

I've been thinking about doing this too! :D

I'm getting tired of my SS-P coilovers so I might just sell them and cut my stock springs...

i will personally come out to LA and kill you. hahaha

omg u can ask my neighbor with a civic the bounciest looking ride i have ever seen.. i say nay.. if ur gonna rice out ur suspension ur gonna blow ur shocks and struts.. just do it right with what springs cost u will save urself alot o headache in the future.. hell get some used ones off ppc if price is an issue or if ur gonna be super cheap u could get some pos drop zones or something lol just plz dont cut them..

not to mention the cost of the tires u go throgh after cutting them ur camber will be royaly fu cked

Camber wont eat your tires unless it is WAY out. For handling purposes I run -1.75 in front and -2.0 in back.. my tires wear just fine. Toe, on the other hand will destroy them if too far out. So while I would like to run crazier toe settings up front for autox, I dont since I daily drive it. He can align out the changes most likely, but the whole idea is still not a good one.

camber will kill ur tires in the front i have lots of proof

okay...so your question is...who has cut their springs? well so far nobody has posted because they are either ashamed to admit how stupid they were or...dead?

if your so set on doing it regardless of the stupidity and consequences, why post at all? what does it matter how many other people have done it?

also, are you cutting your stock springs or your generic ebay brand DZ springs? i'm confused which set your going to actually cut.

i just don't get why people are so cheap when it comes to lowering springs, i mean, at most they could cost $200 dollars, but most of them are way cheaper. you have so many to choose from.

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Why did you even bother starting this thread? Just do it if you're already so dead set on it. Stop trying to justify yourself because no one is going to agree with you

You can buy Tein H-tech springs for under $200.00......Inexpensive and a nice drop. If you wanna drop the car do it right.

camber will kill ur tires in the front i have lots of proof

Only if it is WAY out of spec, or in combination with toe that is out of whack.

Like I said, plenty of us.. and about 200 autox'rs that I know locally run the tC or other cars at -1.5 to -2 in the front with zero wear issues. More than that, and you start worrying about things a bit.. but at that or below, you will not have issues. It takes a lot of camber to kill your tires.

hmm neg 1.5 toe read out fine

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj62/JaymeWinans/058.jpg

look at how much life is left in the outter tread now look at the inner corrected with camber bolts now my tires are lasing nicley

gotdamn! lol!

do it!!!! do ittttttttt!!!!!cut them springs!!!!

well, whatever you do...
at least your in NJ so i dont have to worry about you crashing into me on the road.
GL with your negative performance mod.

everyone thanks for your reply s , ever the smart asses. I guess I should have know better then to post something that like this on this site. but I guess since most of you haven't done this before you just assume it can't and shouldn't be done.

I've been thinking about doing this too! :D

I'm getting tired of my SS-P coilovers so I might just sell them and cut my stock springs...

i will personally come out to LA and kill you. hahaha

HAHA I would pay for your airplane ticket and hand you the gun myself... lol

hahahahaha.

everyone thanks for your reply s , ever the smart asses. I guess I should have know better then to post something that like this on this site. but I guess since most of you haven't done this before you just assume it can't and shouldn't be done.

Dude try this site for this. Really im tryna help..
http://www.ricerforums.com/

This site helps me with alot of my stuff yo..

well, whatever you do...
at least your in NJ so i dont have to worry about you crashing into me on the road.
GL with your negative performance mod.

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I guess I should have know better then to post something that like this on this site. but I guess since most of you haven't done this before you just assume it can't and shouldn't be done.

actually nobody has said it cant be done, were just advising you that its not a good idea. you can do whatever you like, but dont blame us for trying to save a fellow SL member from danger...or potentially being laughed at more

well, whatever you do...
at least your in NJ so i dont have to worry about you crashing into me on the road.
GL with your negative performance mod.

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I guess I should have know better then to post something that like this on this site. but I guess since most of you haven't done this before you just assume it can't and shouldn't be done.

actually nobody has said it cant be done, were just advising you that its not a good idea. you can do whatever you like, but dont blame us for trying to save a fellow ScionLife member from danger...or potentially being laughed at more

well you can laugh at me more if you would like. I just like how everyone has a friend that had done this that has killed them self. I have done this before and I never lost control of they cars. I have hit anyone and I have had a bounce drive. I dont just cut the springs and put them on stock struts. I have yet to see one person right
Don't do it cause this happened to me when I did it "

I have actually cut springs on a older car once.it was ok......ride was fine but one side ended up lower due to the spring rubbing through the mount after 4 months and causing my whole rear end to crash down on my tires giving me a flat......it was a bad experiance all around...perhaps yours will be better.

yea, it hasnt happened yet...which doesnt mean it cant happen.

in the event you have to swerve to avoid an accident, you might not end up so lucky.

yea, it hasnt happened yet...which doesnt mean it cant happen.

in the event you have to swerve to avoid an accident, you might not end up so lucky.

that can happen with stock suspensions and moddifired suspensions. That comes down to knowing your car and know how to handle it. with my over 500k miles of driving in the last 10 year I have yet to lose control of any car.

that's what im sayin! do it! lol! and share ur experience with us. but can i ask u something? u said ur already on lowering springs and u wanted to go lower......why not just buy a lower drop spring? is it a money thing? just askin a question....

hmm neg 1.5 toe read out fine

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj62/JaymeWinans/058.jpg

look at how much life is left in the outter tread now look at the inner corrected with camber bolts now my tires are lasing nicley

Dont know what to tell you... you are one out of an enormous majority. My alignment guy agrees with me.. so does everyone I know that autox's (I will go with a good number of nationals contenders opinions on suspension any day) and most on the forums who run the same. -1.5 did not do that to your tires alone. My rears have been at -2 for almost 3 years now.. my fronts at -1.76 (about -1 before that) for about a year... tire wear is normal. I have a very hard time believing your toe was set correct looking at those tires.

I have yet to see one person right
Don't do it cause this happened to me when I did it "


You dont hear a lot of people saying not to bash their head repeatedly with a hammer because this happened to me either.... because most know not to do it to begin with.

I am not saying you are going to have some massive wreck due to it.. I am just advising that the car will handle worse for it. And if you really push it.. it can become very unmanageable. There is no "correct" way to cut down springs.

Like I said, I am not trying to bash you.. just trying to give you some good advice. It s up to you in the long run. You are set on doing it to begin with, so the thread really isnt of much use.

cut the stock springs = EPIC FAILURE

it's 2009 and were still cutting springs? I know were in a recession but damn might as well get some nozzle lights and do the single wiper mod while your at it LOL

My friend cut his spring and ya his tc was slammed but now i know the whole suspension is messed up the car has been at toyota for a while now weather he cut them wrong or wat idk.. i want to be slammed really bad too but ill just save up for some coilovers right now im on stechs look here is some pics of my friends car...


http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn207/secret04/asasas.jpg


http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn207/secret04/trgrgr.jpg

This is a waste of time.

Yes, resurrecting a thread that died 6 months ago is a waste of time...

Uh... ya. I think we all get the picture on this one.

Cutting springs FTL. If you want to do it, go ahead... but don't come here whining if it doesn't turn out as incredibly as you want to believe.