Still stuck deciding on 5spd or Automatic...could go either way since I have owned both types and both have their adavantages and disadvantages.....
When I test drove a new automatic, I really liked how softly and quickly the automatic goes through the gears...Could not feel the shifts and even while accelerating hard, it still changed gears nice and smooth/soft.
My question is to those who have had yours for awhile,,,,,
Have you noticed any strange shifting after you have qotten a few or many thousands of miles on them with a/c , defrost "on or off" and have you noticed any "delayed" shifts where it took awhile to go to the next gear? And has it remained nice and smooth/soft where you dont feel the shift and you just hear it?
I guess I just want to know if this is the way the car is going to drive after I have had it for years or is it just this nice in the beginning.
Thanks for your help. (oh and let me know how many miles you have on yours)
-taknitez
2tone_xB
12-31-2004, 03:52 PM
I have an auto xB with 8,*** miles on it and everything is fine. Feels like day 1.
fireturtle
12-31-2004, 03:57 PM
I also have an automatic that still feels the same way as when I drove off the lot. I have 13,500 miles.
Max
12-31-2004, 04:29 PM
5,000 miles on my auto and it still feels great. The only compaint is that it will not get into overdrive when the engine is cold. Its not generally a problem, though.
Old_Punk
12-31-2004, 05:35 PM
The only compaint is that it will not get into overdrive when the engine is cold.
To clarify, that's not a malfunction, it's designed that way.
One thing I had to get used to coming out of my Sonoma pickup and into the xB was that the truck had enough slop in the drive train, and the revs were low enough, that I didn't need to be all that careful shifting from reverse to forward after backing out of the driveway. I could be rolling a tiny bit and it would shift just fine. But the xB wants to be absolutely stopped first. Front wheel drive, closer tolerances, higher idle speed, etc.
A thing I like is cruising at 70 or more, pulling out to pass and just stomping on it without contemplating whether I need to drop one gear or two. The tranny will figure out what I need and also keep me from over-revving.
Yoshi
12-31-2004, 05:48 PM
Just under 11K miles and the transmission is great. Still shifts smoothly but also reacts quickly enough to kick it to a lower gear when needed. If you're doing a lot of commuting go for the auto.
Joehnn
12-31-2004, 05:59 PM
5,000 miles on my auto and it still feels great. ...
Same miles and I agree, great automatic. 8)
Max
12-31-2004, 06:04 PM
I know it's not a malfunction, and I know the reason for it, but it is still a complaint I have. Other than that, I am very happy with the way it shifts.
scionspecialistvegas
12-31-2004, 06:21 PM
28,000+ on our autobox, numerous 1\4 pass at the the local strip, and all is well, the tranny is programmable and will shift according to your driving habits. It is not a bad trade off. we love ours. Bill
dcarter
12-31-2004, 07:09 PM
Anyone want to trade an Auto xB for my manual?
juan_pico
12-31-2004, 07:23 PM
Just about reaching the 10,000 mark, and like everyone before mentioned, still smooth sailing even with 19" wheels since day 1. I put 50 miles a day , 5 days a week through rush hour traffic on the Florida 836 Highway, so my choice was limited to comfort.
Old_Punk
12-31-2004, 07:37 PM
I know it's not a malfunction, and I know the reason for it, but it is still a complaint I have. Other than that, I am very happy with the way it shifts.
I clarified for the sake of those who didn't know.
RPMxB
12-31-2004, 07:41 PM
... I guess I just want to know if this is the way the car is going to drive after I have had it for years or is it just this nice in the beginning...
I have 4700 miles on my xB Auto. It's the smoothest, quietest and best performing AT I've ever driven. I recently did some research on the Auto Transmission and posted it to ScionLife. I think it's an interesting read and explains why it's so good. Check it out:
I like my automattic. I wanted a Manual transmission. but they didn't have the car I wanted with a manual trans. I'm happy. cause i dont have to get a new clutch every four years. wouldn't mind the gear control though!
Peace.
TheScionicMan
12-31-2004, 09:39 PM
About 25,000 miles in a year, no discernible difference. Never even test drove the manual, no reason to. Wouldn't help me in the 99% freeway-city, 1% twisty road conditions I drive...
bamabox
12-31-2004, 11:07 PM
Same here as far as the overdrive when cold,but that only lasts until it warms up ofcourse.I test drove a stick and it seemed a bit peppier,but my last vehicle (Nissan Frontier)was a stick and just really tired of shifting gears.I am VERY happy with the auto in the xB.
striker79
01-01-2005, 04:57 AM
I had a 01 Tacoma with an auto and was driving back and forth from phoenix AZ and will never buy another auto again in a 4cyl vehicle(especially anything low end).I got so damn tired of the trans hunting for the right gear going through the mountains as you crossed into AZ from Cali.Granted the transmission blew up and i was trying to do 90+ at the time.Anyway it would depend on where you plan to drive really if you live in the plains you most likely won't get any benefit from a manual,but if you climb steep grades and drive through mountain passes or switch back a manual will benefit you much better than an auto in a vehicle with a tiny motor.
LavaScionSouthernArizona
01-01-2005, 05:00 AM
6500 miles on mine and alls well
obz
01-01-2005, 03:21 PM
Sometimes when I slam it and then quickly let off the gas I get a weird shift. But I think that's just my driving. :wink:
X2005B
01-01-2005, 04:08 PM
I of copurse got an auto as well, and not only is it smotth sailing so far with about 9750 miles, but tachometer reads 3100 going 80 mph, while on mauls your spinning it at 4000 rpm just to go 80 in 5th. Therefor, gas mileage is better in automatic as well.
Taknitez
01-01-2005, 05:38 PM
Preciate all the responses, it is good to know this....really. When it came to accelerating (the way I drive) I only noticed a slight difference between the 5 speed and Auto.
I like both, but for some odd reason, I thought the automatic was just a better driver. Im trading in my 04' Mazda3 (for many reasons) and already have a beater VW 5speed
I really noticed how much more ''relaxed'' the Auto was on the interstate (engine RPM's), where the 5 speed is really 'wound out'....fun yes, but probably tiring for the long roadtrips I take....
Still a tossup for me....and if anyone else wants to respond,,,,,bring em' on,,,,,i'll read em.
Thanks again,
Taknitez
Yoshi
01-01-2005, 06:09 PM
I'm interested in why you are trading in your 3. I have a few friends considering one and would appreciate anything you could share about your impressionsof the car.
Thanks
RPMxB
01-01-2005, 06:09 PM
Still a tossup for me....and if anyone else wants to respond,,,,,bring em' on,,,,,i'll read em...
Do you really want to read more on this topic? :lol: OK, then check out these threads:
Automatic vs. Manual, continued (2 pages)
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23574&highlight=auto+manual+stick+automatic
Are Auto's Really that much slower then the standards? (3 pages)
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10632&highlight=auto+manual+stick+automatic
AT vs MT (2 pages)
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19252&highlight=auto+manual+stick+automatic
Manual or Auto?
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15307&highlight=auto+manual+stick+automatic
Auto Vs. 5 speed (2 pages)
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8389&highlight=auto+manual+stick+automatic
:P RPM
OKIHost
01-01-2005, 06:18 PM
I have owned both an auto and 5 speed and while I did fight with the wife for a while because I did not want the auto I am glad I did as the hightay driver is MUCH quiter.
Yoshii
01-01-2005, 08:03 PM
Have 16,860 miles on my box...and still runs smoothly...i wish i didn't have too many miles but i just love driving it too much...oh well...:)
smokyXB
01-01-2005, 08:27 PM
i noticed a delayed shifting when you FIRST start your car its like i had to hit the rev limit to shift into 2nd. you just gotta punch it is what it feels like. i may be wrong tho.
Boxed_In
01-01-2005, 09:59 PM
If I wasn't stuck in bumper to bumper commuter traffic for 3 hours a day I'd have a stick. Otherwise the auto is performing smoothly with no problems at 20,000 miles.
If you don't have tp commute in traffic a manual is more engaging and fun to drive. For us commuters I'll take a cup of Starbucks in the right hand and let the car do the work.
cartier001
01-03-2005, 03:12 AM
5sp is fun, auto is more relax. It is all depends on your personal driving style.
for me, I would go for auto if it is a toyota. manual if it is a honda. simply because toyota has the best auto tranny and honda build the best manual gear for years.
rampagesd
01-03-2005, 03:23 AM
i got an auto near the 20k mile mark... still runs good... i test drove the 5 speed and didn't like it cause you don't really feel a power change when you shift... i had to test drive 2 of them just to make sure it wasn't a defective 5 speed...
BlueScionOfDeath
01-03-2005, 07:57 PM
Probably the best a/t I've ever driven. shifts are quick & smooth both up & down. very happy I opted for the a/t instead of the m/t.